| Israel is a barbaric State. on 16:18 - May 18 with 4008 views | noggin |
Yeah but the real death toll in Gaza is only 14. I saw it on twitter. [Post edited 18 May 16:21]
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| Israel is a barbaric State. on 17:04 - May 18 with 3904 views | LeoMuff |
Both as bad as each other, murdering women and children, civilians, and committing various war crimes. |  |
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| Israel is a barbaric State. on 17:32 - May 18 with 3822 views | WD19 |
| Israel is a barbaric State. on 17:04 - May 18 by LeoMuff |
Both as bad as each other, murdering women and children, civilians, and committing various war crimes. |
So in a nutshell, you are saying the Israeli state is a terrorist organisation.
Given its current leadership, I wouldn’t disagree. |  | | |
| Israel is a barbaric State. on 17:37 - May 18 with 3797 views | redrickstuhaart |
| Israel is a barbaric State. on 17:04 - May 18 by LeoMuff |
Both as bad as each other, murdering women and children, civilians, and committing various war crimes. |
The problem is that one of those sides who are as "bad as one another" is a supposedly civilised democratic state and ally of the west, with firepower and resources which overwhelmingly greater than the other. |  | | |
| Israel is a barbaric State. on 17:39 - May 18 with 3784 views | factual_blue |
| Israel is a barbaric State. on 17:04 - May 18 by LeoMuff |
Both as bad as each other, murdering women and children, civilians, and committing various war crimes. |
Precisely.
Have a look on iPlayer for a documentary called Praying for Armageddon.
It tells you about the right wing Christian Evangelicals who are dedicated to the destruction of Palestine. Why? Because that will return to Israel its historic (ie biblical) borders. Once that is achieved, the way is clear for the second coming.
They are very rich, have a highly sophisticated lobbying maching in Washington, including a White House Bible Study Group. They are, apparently Christian Zionists.
They clearly aren't going away and will keep fuelling the conflict, despite their craxy, ill-informed fundamentalist views.
And people like that wonder why the Palestinians resist. |  |
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| Israel is a barbaric State. on 17:42 - May 18 with 3750 views | footers |
| Israel is a barbaric State. on 17:39 - May 18 by factual_blue |
Precisely.
Have a look on iPlayer for a documentary called Praying for Armageddon.
It tells you about the right wing Christian Evangelicals who are dedicated to the destruction of Palestine. Why? Because that will return to Israel its historic (ie biblical) borders. Once that is achieved, the way is clear for the second coming.
They are very rich, have a highly sophisticated lobbying maching in Washington, including a White House Bible Study Group. They are, apparently Christian Zionists.
They clearly aren't going away and will keep fuelling the conflict, despite their craxy, ill-informed fundamentalist views.
And people like that wonder why the Palestinians resist. |
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Clean_Break:_A_New_Strategy_for_Securing_the_R
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| Israel is a barbaric State. on 17:45 - May 18 with 3718 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
That's a lot of reading, and I'm very tired.
Can you do it in a 'what three words' format please? As its Saturday and stuff. |  |
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| Israel is a barbaric State. on 18:23 - May 18 with 3295 views | footers |
| Israel is a barbaric State. on 17:45 - May 18 by Cheltenham_Blue |
That's a lot of reading, and I'm very tired.
Can you do it in a 'what three words' format please? As its Saturday and stuff. |
Can I do it with a few?
US vassal state.
Systemic Palestine genocide.
Most-militarised country globally.
Destroy Israeli opposition. | |
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| Israel is a barbaric State. on 18:48 - May 18 with 3123 views | Guthrum |
Strictly speaking, Israel has a barbaric government. Not for the first time in its history.
The nation itself includes people of all sorts, including those protesting against current policy. |  |
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| Israel is a barbaric State. on 18:54 - May 18 with 3072 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Israel is a barbaric State. on 18:48 - May 18 by Guthrum |
Strictly speaking, Israel has a barbaric government. Not for the first time in its history.
The nation itself includes people of all sorts, including those protesting against current policy. |
Yep, and thats how I disagree with the OP.
The Israeli government are barbaric, but the 'state' in and of itself, is not.
In exactly the same way that not all Palestinians are murdering terrorists. | |
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| Israel is a barbaric State. on 19:04 - May 18 with 2958 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Israel is a barbaric State. on 18:54 - May 18 by Cheltenham_Blue |
Yep, and thats how I disagree with the OP.
The Israeli government are barbaric, but the 'state' in and of itself, is not.
In exactly the same way that not all Palestinians are murdering terrorists. |
Nethanyahoo has been moulding the Israeli State/military in his image for years now. |  |
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| Israel is a barbaric State. on 19:15 - May 18 with 2898 views | Guthrum |
| Israel is a barbaric State. on 19:04 - May 18 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Nethanyahoo has been moulding the Israeli State/military in his image for years now. |
I don't think that's entirely true.
He has - when in power, which has been very patchy - encouraged extremist and hard-line elements who are prepared to lend him their support, most notably the settlers. But that's only some sectors of society as a whole. Indeed, they are under-represented in the military as they often refuse to accept conscription.
The scale and energy of the protests he faced while attempting to override the judiciary is evidence of his unpopularity with large parts of the population. There are more protests now over his conduct of the war. He only marginally managed to regain a parliamentary majority in 2022, after several inconclusive elections. | |
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| Israel is a barbaric State. on 19:18 - May 18 with 2805 views | PhilTWTD |
Post left up in error, now removed. I really don' think there's any need for people to post obviously inflammatory things on this topic.
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| Israel is a barbaric State. on 19:28 - May 18 with 2703 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Israel is a barbaric State. on 18:48 - May 18 by Guthrum |
Strictly speaking, Israel has a barbaric government. Not for the first time in its history.
The nation itself includes people of all sorts, including those protesting against current policy. |
Indeed. If Banksy wanted a genuine example of a "barbaric state" he could perhaps look at Iran and compare how they treat their protesters compared to how Israel treats theirs. |  |
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| Israel is a barbaric State. on 19:30 - May 18 with 2701 views | Whos_blue |
| Israel is a barbaric State. on 19:18 - May 18 by PhilTWTD |
Post left up in error, now removed. I really don' think there's any need for people to post obviously inflammatory things on this topic.
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A bit confused how this works Phil.
Why are some of the replies still visible?
I'm not sure anything I posted was inflamatory, but has gone.
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| Israel is a barbaric State. on 19:32 - May 18 with 2691 views | factual_blue |
| Israel is a barbaric State. on 19:18 - May 18 by PhilTWTD |
Post left up in error, now removed. I really don' think there's any need for people to post obviously inflammatory things on this topic.
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Will you confirm that you will remove all posts in future with the words 'sub-human scum' (or similar phrases) commenting on the troubles in Gaza? | |
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| Israel is a barbaric State. on 19:34 - May 18 with 2685 views | PhilTWTD |
| Israel is a barbaric State. on 19:32 - May 18 by factual_blue |
Will you confirm that you will remove all posts in future with the words 'sub-human scum' (or similar phrases) commenting on the troubles in Gaza? |
I don't think it's a very wise phrase to use in any context because of its Nazi echoes.
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| Israel is a barbaric State. on 19:35 - May 18 with 2667 views | PhilTWTD |
| Israel is a barbaric State. on 19:30 - May 18 by Whos_blue |
A bit confused how this works Phil.
Why are some of the replies still visible?
I'm not sure anything I posted was inflamatory, but has gone.
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Probably because I missed them. I usually remove everything following a post in the thread but I may have missed others. | | | |
| Israel is a barbaric State. on 19:35 - May 18 with 2641 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Israel is a barbaric State. on 19:32 - May 18 by factual_blue |
Will you confirm that you will remove all posts in future with the words 'sub-human scum' (or similar phrases) commenting on the troubles in Gaza? |
It's use in English wasn't the problem, as you well know. It's been used before by Banksy without any issue.
Sub-human scum. by BanksterDebtSlave 14 May 8:00https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/may/13/total-outrage-white-house-condemns-israeli-settlers-attack-on-gaza-aid-convoy
'Police do not appear to have intervened to stop the looting, though four people including a minor were later reported to have been arrested.'
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| Israel is a barbaric State. on 19:38 - May 18 with 2640 views | Cheltenham_Blue |
| Israel is a barbaric State. on 19:34 - May 18 by PhilTWTD |
I don't think it's a very wise phrase to use in any context because of its Nazi echoes.
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It was used yesterday though Phil, to describe Palestinians. | |
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| Israel is a barbaric State. on 19:38 - May 18 with 2619 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Israel is a barbaric State. on 19:34 - May 18 by PhilTWTD |
I don't think it's a very wise phrase to use in any context because of its Nazi echoes.
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The phrase was first used in the 1700's. The German translation has obvious Nazi connotations. | |
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| Israel is a barbaric State. on 19:42 - May 18 with 2605 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Israel is a barbaric State. on 19:38 - May 18 by Cheltenham_Blue |
It was used yesterday though Phil, to describe Palestinians. |
No it wasn't. It was used by me to describe Hamas terrorists who raped, mutilated and beheaded a 22 year old young woman. Palestinian people are not sub human scum. The people who commited the atrocity against Shani Louk are. The phrase was used last week by Banksy with no issues.
Edit. What would you cll people who kidnap a 22 year old woman from a rave in the desert, gang raper her, break every bone in her body, throw her onto the back of a jeep, parade her broken and lifeless corpse through the streets of Gaza for people to spit at and throw objects at, behead her and transport her to the another part of the country and keep her body for over seven months? [Post edited 18 May 19:54]
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| Israel is a barbaric State. on 19:50 - May 18 with 2593 views | factual_blue |
| Israel is a barbaric State. on 19:34 - May 18 by PhilTWTD |
I don't think it's a very wise phrase to use in any context because of its Nazi echoes.
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So that's a yes then, it's a banned phrase? | |
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| Israel is a barbaric State. on 19:57 - May 18 with 2508 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Israel is a barbaric State. on 19:50 - May 18 by factual_blue |
So that's a yes then, it's a banned phrase? |
Well you claim to have me on ignore but can obviously see Banksy's posts so I would imagine the only time you have seen that phrase used on here was on this thread.
Sub-human scum. by BanksterDebtSlave 14 May 8:00https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/may/13/total-outrage-white-house-condemns-israeli-settlers-attack-on-gaza-aid-convoy
'Police do not appear to have intervened to stop the looting, though four people including a minor were later reported to have been arrested.'
But you can't see my post can you. | |
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| Israel is a barbaric State. on 20:00 - May 18 with 2510 views | PhilTWTD |
| Israel is a barbaric State. on 19:50 - May 18 by factual_blue |
So that's a yes then, it's a banned phrase? |
It's clearly unhelpful for people to use it, particularly if it's in order to cause a row. | | | |
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