| Chopra and Twitter again 09:44 - Feb 3 with 2303 views | sparks |
He appears actually to have posted a picture of himself, from when he was a promising young player at Newcastle, playing in Champs League "~for all the haters".
Mr Chopra, no one hates you for having once been a talented young player. Neither does any doubt that there is and has been some real footballing talent.
The grief you get is down to your behaviour, for which you still seem unwilling to accept any responsibility, and for your mindless whining on Twitter.
Do yourself a favour, stop making a fool of yourself on the internet, and get to the training ground. Do all you can to make that talent you once had shine again... If you are interested. |  | | |  |
| Chopra and Twitter again on 12:31 - Feb 3 with 331 views | sparks |
| Chopra and Twitter again on 12:08 - Feb 3 by DanTheMan |
Would anybody say these things to his face? No.
Here is a selection of the lovely tweets he has to deal with:
"David Beckham not the first player to give his salary away. @MichaelChopra10 donated his salary to Ladbrokes. Credit @bigtsafc"
"@MichaelChopra10 haha your a proper nob just face it your a loser"
"Do you want to lend a tenner?? @MichaelChopra10"
"@MichaelChopra10 You faggot"
"@Baz_24 @michaelchopra10 well...he's just dead would now, sooner out the better! #uselessc*nt"
“@MichaelChopra10: @Samuel__Osborne @CoDurham yolo” haha what a role model #addict #prick"
It goes on and on and on. |
So lets see- how do you solve that?
Hmmm. Not putting yourself out there on a public twitter account and demanding respect, and expecting to be entitled to be left alone to tw@t and Twit on your own terms, having behaved badly, repeatedly, and shown precious little contrition about it. Whilst also not living up to requirements and expectations in your day job. [Post edited 3 Feb 12:32]
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| Chopra and Twitter again on 12:34 - Feb 3 with 326 views | BlueInTheEvening |
| Chopra and Twitter again on 12:27 - Feb 3 by sparks |
Oh dear.
Mental health problems? Possibly- addiction can be classed as that.
But your rant is utterly irrelevant to the point I made. |
You attempted to dismiss criticism of the intellectual midgets who hide behind internet anonymity to hurl abuse at people by saying 'It's the internet', and claiming it was 'hard to have sympathy'. I disagreed, and said so. My post (NB do try not to fall back on trying to dismiss entirely non-ranting posts as such, it's rather a cheap tactic) was *entirely* related to yours. |  | | |
| Chopra and Twitter again on 12:35 - Feb 3 with 317 views | Darth_Koont |
| Chopra and Twitter again on 12:31 - Feb 3 by sparks |
So lets see- how do you solve that?
Hmmm. Not putting yourself out there on a public twitter account and demanding respect, and expecting to be entitled to be left alone to tw@t and Twit on your own terms, having behaved badly, repeatedly, and shown precious little contrition about it. Whilst also not living up to requirements and expectations in your day job. [Post edited 3 Feb 12:32]
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You really are a pompous fool.
Where is he "demanding respect"? You may well do that but all he's doing is reacting against abuse (unwisely perhaps but that's another issue). He doesn't deserve that abuse and he doesn't deserve the suggestion that he's not contrite - that's baseless, I'm afraid.
You're like a magistrate blaming a girl for wearing a short skirt ... |  | | |
| Chopra and Twitter again on 12:36 - Feb 3 with 313 views | sparks |
| Chopra and Twitter again on 12:34 - Feb 3 by BlueInTheEvening |
You attempted to dismiss criticism of the intellectual midgets who hide behind internet anonymity to hurl abuse at people by saying 'It's the internet', and claiming it was 'hard to have sympathy'. I disagreed, and said so. My post (NB do try not to fall back on trying to dismiss entirely non-ranting posts as such, it's rather a cheap tactic) was *entirely* related to yours. |
No I didnt. You decided to frame what I said in those terms in order to argue against it. You didnt disagree with what I actually said, you built a straw man to knock down, with the added disingenuous twist of converting an addiction into the suggestion of some much broader mental illness. | | | |
| Chopra and Twitter again on 12:39 - Feb 3 with 300 views | blue_oyster |
| Chopra and Twitter again on 12:35 - Feb 3 by Darth_Koont |
You really are a pompous fool.
Where is he "demanding respect"? You may well do that but all he's doing is reacting against abuse (unwisely perhaps but that's another issue). He doesn't deserve that abuse and he doesn't deserve the suggestion that he's not contrite - that's baseless, I'm afraid.
You're like a magistrate blaming a girl for wearing a short skirt ... |
Bad analogy. Twitter is luxury vanity tool, and Chopra wants it. Well he can have it. |  |
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| Chopra and Twitter again on 12:41 - Feb 3 with 293 views | BlueInTheEvening |
| Chopra and Twitter again on 12:36 - Feb 3 by sparks |
No I didnt. You decided to frame what I said in those terms in order to argue against it. You didnt disagree with what I actually said, you built a straw man to knock down, with the added disingenuous twist of converting an addiction into the suggestion of some much broader mental illness. |
Er, no, I disagreed with what you said, and agreed with what Dan said, simple as. The only person who looks like they're ranting on here is you. If you didn't want people drawing obvious conclusions from what you posted, you should have expressed yourself more clearly.
(Cue more irrelavant tosh about what an intellectual giant you are and how no-one on this board can match up to your level, I expect- don't know why I'm even bothering) | | | |
| Chopra and Twitter again on 12:43 - Feb 3 with 282 views | Darth_Koont |
| Chopra and Twitter again on 12:39 - Feb 3 by blue_oyster |
Bad analogy. Twitter is luxury vanity tool, and Chopra wants it. Well he can have it. |
Sorry, but you're wrong to dismiss Twitter so simply - it's just another form of communication for most. And I say that as someone who doesn't really use it but has a nibble from time to time. | | | |
| Chopra and Twitter again on 12:46 - Feb 3 with 273 views | DanTheMan |
| Chopra and Twitter again on 12:31 - Feb 3 by sparks |
So lets see- how do you solve that?
Hmmm. Not putting yourself out there on a public twitter account and demanding respect, and expecting to be entitled to be left alone to tw@t and Twit on your own terms, having behaved badly, repeatedly, and shown precious little contrition about it. Whilst also not living up to requirements and expectations in your day job. [Post edited 3 Feb 12:32]
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Solution 2:
People stop posting abuse to him on Twitter, provoking him into doing stupid things.
Your solution would work and maybe it is best not to post on there any more but you seem to place all the blame with Chopra and none with the people calling him some utterly horrible things. |  | | |
| Chopra and Twitter again on 12:47 - Feb 3 with 269 views | blue_oyster |
| Chopra and Twitter again on 12:43 - Feb 3 by Darth_Koont |
Sorry, but you're wrong to dismiss Twitter so simply - it's just another form of communication for most. And I say that as someone who doesn't really use it but has a nibble from time to time. |
That's right, unnecessary communication. Consider the name of the tool 'Twitter' and think how serious it is. | |
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| Chopra and Twitter again on 12:47 - Feb 3 with 268 views | Mullet |
| Chopra and Twitter again on 12:41 - Feb 3 by BlueInTheEvening |
Er, no, I disagreed with what you said, and agreed with what Dan said, simple as. The only person who looks like they're ranting on here is you. If you didn't want people drawing obvious conclusions from what you posted, you should have expressed yourself more clearly.
(Cue more irrelavant tosh about what an intellectual giant you are and how no-one on this board can match up to your level, I expect- don't know why I'm even bothering) |
It comes down to those who have some sort of normal and human qualities those or are vicious, weak-minded, spiteful turds with no respect or capacity to tolerate. It's forgivable in the young and impressionable you see on twitter but no less welcome.
The middle-aged men who go out of their way to aim such vitriol and hurtful words his way astound and sadden in equal measure. It's nigh on daily if not constant. |  |
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| Chopra and Twitter again on 12:50 - Feb 3 with 259 views | Darth_Koont |
| Chopra and Twitter again on 12:47 - Feb 3 by blue_oyster |
That's right, unnecessary communication. Consider the name of the tool 'Twitter' and think how serious it is. |
Eh? What is "unnecessary communication"?
Ah now I get it ... judging by your name you're not being serious. | | | |
| Chopra and Twitter again on 12:52 - Feb 3 with 251 views | blue_oyster |
| Chopra and Twitter again on 12:50 - Feb 3 by Darth_Koont |
Eh? What is "unnecessary communication"?
Ah now I get it ... judging by your name you're not being serious. |
The irony of your first sentence has beaten me. | |
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| Chopra and Twitter again on 12:56 - Feb 3 with 243 views | Darth_Koont |
| Chopra and Twitter again on 12:52 - Feb 3 by blue_oyster |
The irony of your first sentence has beaten me. |
No, I think the meaning of irony has beaten you.
What is "necessary communication" if that makes it easier? | | | |
| Chopra and Twitter again on 13:00 - Feb 3 with 230 views | Ryorry |
| Chopra and Twitter again on 12:47 - Feb 3 by blue_oyster |
That's right, unnecessary communication. Consider the name of the tool 'Twitter' and think how serious it is. |
Twitter is for me an absolutely essential, crucial method of communication, living as I do in an isolated place - the only method of obtaining up-to-date local info for starters. |  |
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| Chopra and Twitter again on 13:01 - Feb 3 with 227 views | blue_oyster |
| Chopra and Twitter again on 12:56 - Feb 3 by Darth_Koont |
No, I think the meaning of irony has beaten you.
What is "necessary communication" if that makes it easier? |
Do I have to answer, or is it unnecessary? | |
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| Chopra and Twitter again on 13:03 - Feb 3 with 224 views | sparks |
| Chopra and Twitter again on 12:41 - Feb 3 by BlueInTheEvening |
Er, no, I disagreed with what you said, and agreed with what Dan said, simple as. The only person who looks like they're ranting on here is you. If you didn't want people drawing obvious conclusions from what you posted, you should have expressed yourself more clearly.
(Cue more irrelavant tosh about what an intellectual giant you are and how no-one on this board can match up to your level, I expect- don't know why I'm even bothering) |
No- you saw my name and decided to have a pop- but had to do so without actually having any thought about what I said or what it meant...
Lets do this by numbers...
People on the internet are idiots.
Nothing can really be done about that. Its the internet.
Mr Chopra knows its the internet. The clubs knows its the internet.
If you are going to have a public twitter feed, then you need to be aware of that.
As a professional footballer who has behaved in the way he has, you are inevitably going to get some grief.
That being the case, you either have to accept that and not hit out back all the time in a plainly counterproductive and unprofessional manner, which probably impacts on your mindset, morale, etc etc. Or you have to avoid putting yourself in that situation.
If you do put yourself in that situation, and you engage on the level of the internet idiots, I personally have little sympathy.
That is not the same as endorsing people making attacks on people with mental health issues (a phrase I suspect you chose for effect)
Nor is it "dismissing" criticism of idiots as you so disingenuously allege.
Now what is it I actually said that you disagree with. Precisely?
And why come in, all guns blazing, on a perfectly civil conversation that didnt involve you?
And finally, lets look at your earlier comment:
" but unless people think that normal standards of decent behaviour cease to apply online, I'm not sure how the response 'It's the internet' in response to Dan's entirely correct statement that 'constantly abusing people with obvious and serious mental health problems is neither moral, or helpful.' is anything other than epic, as you might say, logic fail."
Now... To anyone with a brain, it would be quite apparent that the comment "its the internet" is a reflection of that fact that these idiots will always be present. Whether we like it or not, they are there on the internet and always will be. Its not any of the things you went on to claim it was (like a dismissal of criticism). Its simply a recognition of reality. In the context of reality, I have little sympathy for Chopra who persistently chooses to put himself out there and exacerbate the situation, despiute (one must assume) all manner of advice and support.
Now go back and read the OP and see if you actually agree with it. | | | |
| Chopra and Twitter again on 13:06 - Feb 3 with 212 views | sparks |
| Chopra and Twitter again on 12:46 - Feb 3 by DanTheMan |
Solution 2:
People stop posting abuse to him on Twitter, provoking him into doing stupid things.
Your solution would work and maybe it is best not to post on there any more but you seem to place all the blame with Chopra and none with the people calling him some utterly horrible things. |
I place the blame with Chopra because he's a professional footballer, using his twitter account in that capacity, and doing so in a hopelessly unprofessional manner.
And because its not actually possible to stop idiots (many of whom may well have nothing to do with ITFC) engaging in mischief, or malevolence, on the internet.
Once one considers the analysis on the (inarguable) premise that a public footballers twitter account will attract idiots, then the rest falls away really.
You either use the account professionally, or you stay clear. Probably the latter if you have behaved in such a manner as to pretty much invite grief. | | | |
| Chopra and Twitter again on 13:08 - Feb 3 with 209 views | Darth_Koont |
| Chopra and Twitter again on 13:01 - Feb 3 by blue_oyster |
Do I have to answer, or is it unnecessary? |
I hope this doesn't sound condescending but if you try to explain then I can perhaps understand what you meant.
Although I'm starting to think it was 140 characters of emptiness ... are you sure you're not on Twitter!? | | | |
| Chopra and Twitter again on 16:17 - Feb 3 with 157 views | Bluenose |
| Chopra and Twitter again on 11:50 - Feb 3 by RetroBlue |
Whilst Chopra, and any other player that uses Twitter for that matter, do little to help themselves, I do wish people would lay off Chopra, and give the guy a chance to get his life back on track.
Yes he's had a privileged life compared to the majority of us , and has more money than we could ever hope to have had, and he's wasted it. But he is a human being , and is an individual that is actually not well - he has an addiction. So do we put the boot in when a man's down? Is that what Ipswich Town fans are REALLY like? Give the guy the benefit of the doubt, support him and we might just get back a bloody good striker. Because his football quality has never been in doubt.
NB: as an aisde I see Gazza has started drinking again (report in national press), and is in desperate need of help - again. If he was a Town player, I wonder if we'd have people on here verbally abusing him on Twitter?
Give Chopra support - not grief. |
Rarely has a posting on an internet forum made me want to puke. That one did.
I tell you what Ipswich fans are like. They are the average Joe, not too well-off and often with problems of their own to contend with which would make Chopra's self-indulgent antics pale into trivia. All human beings, I hasten to add.
Like the chap two doors from me who has a severely handicapped child and whose wife was diagnosed with a cancer some months ago.
Not well off, he spends a large proportion of his hard-earned attending Portman Road.
The actions of Chopra are an anathema to the standards held by such supporters. Ipswich Town Football Club is not the Salvation Army. It is a fair employer that has a right to expect a fair return from it's employees.
All Chopra does is insult club and supporters alike by his antics.
He has contributed little in return for his ridiculous wages for so long now that you would think he'd have enough brains to keep a low profile rather than expose himself as the idiot he is on internet media.
Add to that the fact that he has been adjudged to be dishonest and corrupt and you have a package the very mention of which drags the name of our club down.
Get rid and let Gambler's Anonymous, or whatever, sort out his lavish lifestyle. The average ITFC supporter has every right to be disallusioned with this individual rather than be expected to indulge in internet love-ins. [Post edited 3 Feb 16:19]
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| Chopra and Twitter again on 18:11 - Feb 3 with 120 views | TractorBoyOlly |
Why is he still here?! | | | |
| Chopra and Twitter again on 18:12 - Feb 3 with 116 views | MJallday |
| Chopra and Twitter again on 18:11 - Feb 3 by TractorBoyOlly |
Why is he still here?! |
Because he plays for us? |  |
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| Chopra and Twitter again on 18:17 - Feb 3 with 110 views | TractorBoyOlly |
| Chopra and Twitter again on 18:12 - Feb 3 by MJallday |
Because he plays for us? |
He's done nothing all season and has been a drain on us financially, you are the weakest link, goodbye! | | | |
| Chopra and Twitter again on 18:27 - Feb 3 with 90 views | artsbossbeard |
| Chopra and Twitter again on 18:17 - Feb 3 by TractorBoyOlly |
He's done nothing all season and has been a drain on us financially, you are the weakest link, goodbye! |
but would you say that to his face or bravely from behind a computer?
I'll wait. |  |
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| Chopra and Twitter again on 18:28 - Feb 3 with 85 views | TractorBoyOlly |
| Chopra and Twitter again on 18:27 - Feb 3 by artsbossbeard |
but would you say that to his face or bravely from behind a computer?
I'll wait. |
Would happily say it to his face, infact once saw him taking wads of money out of a cash point in town, how ironic. | | | |
| Chopra and Twitter again on 18:30 - Feb 3 with 80 views | Mullet |
| Chopra and Twitter again on 18:28 - Feb 3 by TractorBoyOlly |
Would happily say it to his face, infact once saw him taking wads of money out of a cash point in town, how ironic. |
What else do cash points give out? Are you Alanis Morrisette? | |
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