| Great Inventions on BBC2 - great! but why don't RR make cars any more? 13:32 - Feb 3 with 894 views | Ryorry |
Fantastic series - this week was locomotion - steamtrains, cars, jetplanes. Filmed in the absolutely awesome engine room at Rolls Royce, Derby.
Towards the end tho prog said I think (haven't replayed) that RR now exclusively makes jet engines and has stopped making cars? Despite the recession, surely there'll always be wealthy people who want and can afford one? so it seems a real shame that they don't boost British industry and help themselves to more cash along the way, by still making them. Can anyone enlighten me? |  |
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| Great Inventions on BBC2 - great! but why don't RR make cars any more? on 13:40 - Feb 3 with 831 views | bentleybuh1 |
BMW owns RR ? They do make Jet Engines,believe it or not my father (God Bless Him) was a truck driver,and one of his Trucks was powered by a RR Engine |  |
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| Great Inventions on BBC2 - great! but why don't RR make cars any more? on 13:43 - Feb 3 with 824 views | blue_oyster |
Rolls Royce still make cars, they just don't make the car engines anymore. They make jet engines. |  |
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| Great Inventions on BBC2 - great! but why don't RR make cars any more? on 13:44 - Feb 3 with 820 views | Ryorry |
| Great Inventions on BBC2 - great! but why don't RR make cars any more? on 13:40 - Feb 3 by bentleybuh1 |
BMW owns RR ? They do make Jet Engines,believe it or not my father (God Bless Him) was a truck driver,and one of his Trucks was powered by a RR Engine |
wow, kudos to your Dad! Didn't know that re BMW cheers, prog didn't look at the commercial aspects, ownership etc | |
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| Great Inventions on BBC2 - great! but why don't RR make cars any more? on 13:45 - Feb 3 with 815 views | Ryorry |
| Great Inventions on BBC2 - great! but why don't RR make cars any more? on 13:43 - Feb 3 by blue_oyster |
Rolls Royce still make cars, they just don't make the car engines anymore. They make jet engines. |
ah - thanks - so who makes the engines, BMW? | |
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| Great Inventions on BBC2 - great! but why don't RR make cars any more? on 13:46 - Feb 3 with 816 views | bentleybuh1 |
| Great Inventions on BBC2 - great! but why don't RR make cars any more? on 13:43 - Feb 3 by blue_oyster |
Rolls Royce still make cars, they just don't make the car engines anymore. They make jet engines. |
Yes but its not British owned which is a great shame | |
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| Great Inventions on BBC2 - great! but why don't RR make cars any more? on 13:55 - Feb 3 with 800 views | Fred |
Most RR aero turbines are now made in Germany,
RR industrial engines are made in Canada
Is it any longer a british Company ??? |  | | |
| Great Inventions on BBC2 - great! but why don't RR make cars any more? on 14:05 - Feb 3 with 790 views | Keno |
| Great Inventions on BBC2 - great! but why don't RR make cars any more? on 13:45 - Feb 3 by Ryorry |
ah - thanks - so who makes the engines, BMW? |
Pah, wouldnt touch a BMW with a bargepole nasty over-rated german rubbish
I'll stick with my nice new mini
proper british car!! |  |
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| Great Inventions on BBC2 - great! but why don't RR make cars any more? on 16:21 - Feb 3 with 745 views | flatlettuce |
| Great Inventions on BBC2 - great! but why don't RR make cars any more? on 13:55 - Feb 3 by Fred |
Most RR aero turbines are now made in Germany,
RR industrial engines are made in Canada
Is it any longer a british Company ??? |
Nope. Most (and almost all of the large) RR aero engines are still made in Derby. The German operation was started as a joint venture with BMW to build engines for business jets and small regional aircraft, which RR now fully owns. BMW took a small share in RR in exchange. The German operation is less than a fifth the size of Derby.
RR Canada has been around for quite a while, and a lot of the Energy turbines are over there. Marine turbines, however, remain in the UK.
Of course, you could mention the Indianapolis operation (they took over Allison back in the 1990s), the Singapore factory (opened last year) - but these are all owned by the Rolls-Royce group, headquartered in London. Are they British? Yes. | | | |
| Great Inventions on BBC2 - great! but why don't RR make cars any more? on 16:26 - Feb 3 with 735 views | Ryorry |
| Great Inventions on BBC2 - great! but why don't RR make cars any more? on 16:21 - Feb 3 by flatlettuce |
Nope. Most (and almost all of the large) RR aero engines are still made in Derby. The German operation was started as a joint venture with BMW to build engines for business jets and small regional aircraft, which RR now fully owns. BMW took a small share in RR in exchange. The German operation is less than a fifth the size of Derby.
RR Canada has been around for quite a while, and a lot of the Energy turbines are over there. Marine turbines, however, remain in the UK.
Of course, you could mention the Indianapolis operation (they took over Allison back in the 1990s), the Singapore factory (opened last year) - but these are all owned by the Rolls-Royce group, headquartered in London. Are they British? Yes. |
pleased to hear it! Tried to follow their history from googling, but it does seem exceptionally complicated! | |
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| Great Inventions on BBC2 - great! but why don't RR make cars any more? on 16:29 - Feb 3 with 729 views | MJallday |
| Great Inventions on BBC2 - great! but why don't RR make cars any more? on 14:05 - Feb 3 by Keno |
Pah, wouldnt touch a BMW with a bargepole nasty over-rated german rubbish
I'll stick with my nice new mini
proper british car!! |
The mini of course, being made by BMW in the BMW plant at Cowley, Oxford. Which is mostly by poles and Albanians.
:-) |  |
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| Great Inventions on BBC2 - great! but why don't RR make cars any more? on 16:29 - Feb 3 with 729 views | Ryorry |
| Great Inventions on BBC2 - great! but why don't RR make cars any more? on 14:05 - Feb 3 by Keno |
Pah, wouldnt touch a BMW with a bargepole nasty over-rated german rubbish
I'll stick with my nice new mini
proper british car!! |
And I with my lovely scruffy Landrover! They're so popular and such a global success these days, you kinda wonder if they'll become the 21st C RR equivalent company in their status. | |
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| Great Inventions on BBC2 - great! but why don't RR make cars any more? on 16:36 - Feb 3 with 724 views | MJallday |
Just looking at great inventions for next week. It features the satellite station near me at madley, Herefordshire. Will be interesting. | |
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| Great Inventions on BBC2 - great! but why don't RR make cars any more? on 16:43 - Feb 3 with 719 views | Keno |
| Great Inventions on BBC2 - great! but why don't RR make cars any more? on 16:29 - Feb 3 by MJallday |
The mini of course, being made by BMW in the BMW plant at Cowley, Oxford. Which is mostly by poles and Albanians.
:-) |
NO!!!!!!!!
It cant be!!!!
I will sell tomorrow and buy a good old British Ford, Vauxhall or De Lorean | |
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| Great Inventions on BBC2 - great! but why don't RR make cars any more? on 16:49 - Feb 3 with 716 views | MJallday |
Sorry, I helped design some of their process solutions.
Vauxhall is in resurgence at the moment, as are jaguar land rover, until they goto India in about 3 years.
Nissan are doing quite well. Honda are bumping along and have been for a while.
Ford are properly knackered. | |
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| Great Inventions on BBC2 - great! but why don't RR make cars any more? on 16:59 - Feb 3 with 712 views | flatlettuce |
| Great Inventions on BBC2 - great! but why don't RR make cars any more? on 16:49 - Feb 3 by MJallday |
Sorry, I helped design some of their process solutions.
Vauxhall is in resurgence at the moment, as are jaguar land rover, until they goto India in about 3 years.
Nissan are doing quite well. Honda are bumping along and have been for a while.
Ford are properly knackered. |
What I could never work out is why Tata have been able to make a go of Jaguar Land Rover, when Ford with all their infrastructure and expertise could not. Perhaps it wasn't the expertise that JLR needed...
As for the OP, I think RR are better off out of cars (although they have just bought half of one the the world's largest diesel engine manufacturers). In fact the RR group as is haven't made cars since the 70s - the RR badge and front grill were essentially used under license. Think it was part of Vickers for a bit if I recall. VW bought out what they thought was RR Cars the Crewe plant), but that didn't have the absolute rights to the name - hence why VW now make Bentleys. | | | |
| Great Inventions on BBC2 - great! but why don't RR make cars any more? on 17:12 - Feb 3 with 708 views | MJallday |
| Great Inventions on BBC2 - great! but why don't RR make cars any more? on 16:59 - Feb 3 by flatlettuce |
What I could never work out is why Tata have been able to make a go of Jaguar Land Rover, when Ford with all their infrastructure and expertise could not. Perhaps it wasn't the expertise that JLR needed...
As for the OP, I think RR are better off out of cars (although they have just bought half of one the the world's largest diesel engine manufacturers). In fact the RR group as is haven't made cars since the 70s - the RR badge and front grill were essentially used under license. Think it was part of Vickers for a bit if I recall. VW bought out what they thought was RR Cars the Crewe plant), but that didn't have the absolute rights to the name - hence why VW now make Bentleys. |
Interesting question. I was at haylewood a few months back talking to jlrs production director.
Basically they de unionised the plant, cut it right back, standardised everything and started again. The XF was basically their launch pad. They gave discounted corporate rates out, got it into the marketplace. A mix of improved efficiency, low op costs and market share.
However I understand that they'll leave the uk before too long. That will not go down well | |
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| Great Inventions on BBC2 - great! but why don't RR make cars any more? on 17:17 - Feb 3 with 702 views | Mullet |
| Great Inventions on BBC2 - great! but why don't RR make cars any more? on 13:55 - Feb 3 by Fred |
Most RR aero turbines are now made in Germany,
RR industrial engines are made in Canada
Is it any longer a british Company ??? |
Still got a big base in Cheshire relating to jet engines with an eye on the military I think. |  |
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| Great Inventions on BBC2 - great! but why don't RR make cars any more? on 17:22 - Feb 3 with 697 views | MJallday |
RR are in derby aren't they? Biggest employer for miles around I understand | |
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| Great Inventions on BBC2 - great! but why don't RR make cars any more? on 17:22 - Feb 3 with 696 views | flatlettuce |
| Great Inventions on BBC2 - great! but why don't RR make cars any more? on 17:12 - Feb 3 by MJallday |
Interesting question. I was at haylewood a few months back talking to jlrs production director.
Basically they de unionised the plant, cut it right back, standardised everything and started again. The XF was basically their launch pad. They gave discounted corporate rates out, got it into the marketplace. A mix of improved efficiency, low op costs and market share.
However I understand that they'll leave the uk before too long. That will not go down well |
Think there will be plenty of political pressure from all sides if they do up sticks completely (plenty of marginals around there), and I'm not sure how the market would react to a Jaguar built in India. Their current market is quality and corporate, and they do it very well - the XF is a superb car, and I'm sure the Range Rover and Evoque are nice enough if you like that sort of thing.
But can you see a mid exec buying an Indian-built XF over a German BMW 5-series, or a League 1 footballer buying a Range Rover Sport from Bangalore? Not sure: they may be every inch as good as product from Solihull, but image is vital in those markets. They'll need to be careful I think. | | | |
| Great Inventions on BBC2 - great! but why don't RR make cars any more? on 17:26 - Feb 3 with 691 views | MJallday |
| Great Inventions on BBC2 - great! but why don't RR make cars any more? on 17:22 - Feb 3 by flatlettuce |
Think there will be plenty of political pressure from all sides if they do up sticks completely (plenty of marginals around there), and I'm not sure how the market would react to a Jaguar built in India. Their current market is quality and corporate, and they do it very well - the XF is a superb car, and I'm sure the Range Rover and Evoque are nice enough if you like that sort of thing.
But can you see a mid exec buying an Indian-built XF over a German BMW 5-series, or a League 1 footballer buying a Range Rover Sport from Bangalore? Not sure: they may be every inch as good as product from Solihull, but image is vital in those markets. They'll need to be careful I think. |
I know they're shifting their parts business already. I agree, the biggest appeal is the "Britishness " | |
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| Great Inventions on BBC2 - great! but why don't RR make cars any more? on 17:26 - Feb 3 with 691 views | Mullet |
| Great Inventions on BBC2 - great! but why don't RR make cars any more? on 17:22 - Feb 3 by MJallday |
RR are in derby aren't they? Biggest employer for miles around I understand |
http://www.rolls-royce.com/careers/where_in_the_world/uk/index.jsp You're right Derby is certainly the hub. Nothing in Cheshire though so I'm not sure which one I drove past or when. | |
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| Great Inventions on BBC2 - great! but why don't RR make cars any more? on 17:29 - Feb 3 with 686 views | MJallday |
In fairness it might be a supplier to them. Cheshire/Ellesmere port is full of those sort of businesses | |
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| Great Inventions on BBC2 - great! but why don't RR make cars any more? on 17:33 - Feb 3 with 686 views | flatlettuce |
Derby's the hub - but locally we have JCB, Bombardier and Toyota too. Quite a bit of 'making stuff' industry round here, thankfully.
There is a branch of RR in Warrington these days - part of the Civil Nuclear business, I think, so you may have seen that. There's also a small plant in southern Manchester which I think is part of the industrial energy side. | | | |
| Great Inventions on BBC2 - great! but why don't RR make cars any more? on 17:34 - Feb 3 with 684 views | Keno |
| Great Inventions on BBC2 - great! but why don't RR make cars any more? on 17:33 - Feb 3 by flatlettuce |
Derby's the hub - but locally we have JCB, Bombardier and Toyota too. Quite a bit of 'making stuff' industry round here, thankfully.
There is a branch of RR in Warrington these days - part of the Civil Nuclear business, I think, so you may have seen that. There's also a small plant in southern Manchester which I think is part of the industrial energy side. |
there is an R&D site in chichester as well | |
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| Great Inventions on BBC2 - great! but why don't RR make cars any more? on 17:38 - Feb 3 with 681 views | Mullet |
| Great Inventions on BBC2 - great! but why don't RR make cars any more? on 17:33 - Feb 3 by flatlettuce |
Derby's the hub - but locally we have JCB, Bombardier and Toyota too. Quite a bit of 'making stuff' industry round here, thankfully.
There is a branch of RR in Warrington these days - part of the Civil Nuclear business, I think, so you may have seen that. There's also a small plant in southern Manchester which I think is part of the industrial energy side. |
Well I live outside the original factory site in M15 but there's nothing but flats here now! Plus two roads named after them. | |
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