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Fake News 20:53 - Jan 16 with 5760 viewsDubtractor

That phrase is going to get pretty tired fairly soon isn't it?


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Fake News on 21:21 - Jan 16 with 3073 viewsPinewoodblue

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Fake News on 21:31 - Jan 16 with 3064 viewsElderGrizzly

Easier to just call it lies.

http://www.alternet.org/media/14-fake-news-stories-created-or-publicized-donald-
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Fake News on 21:55 - Jan 16 with 3032 viewsbournemouthblue

There's a certain level of irony attached to the tag given the way certain media outlets cover things

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Fake News on 22:11 - Jan 16 with 2989 viewsTractorCam

Are you referring to Donald Trump quotes or itfcpaul saying Danny Ward is as good as ours?

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Fake News on 22:22 - Jan 16 with 2974 viewsLankHenners

People love phrases these days. Especially ones that cover something fairly nuanced or complex as it makes them seem relatively clever, as they're often used by people who don't have the capacity to think for themselves so just stick all these terms in a blender in their head and vomit them out onto Twitter and suchlike.

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Fake News on 22:27 - Jan 16 with 2946 viewsTractorCam

Fake News on 22:22 - Jan 16 by LankHenners

People love phrases these days. Especially ones that cover something fairly nuanced or complex as it makes them seem relatively clever, as they're often used by people who don't have the capacity to think for themselves so just stick all these terms in a blender in their head and vomit them out onto Twitter and suchlike.


Like "paper over cracks" ?

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Fake News on 23:50 - Jan 16 with 2873 viewsGuthrum

The problem is that it's a convenient term to condemn anything one doesn't want to hear. Eventually, it will sow enough uncertainty that reality itself is undermined.

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Fake News on 00:22 - Jan 17 with 2846 viewsjeera

Fake News on 23:50 - Jan 16 by Guthrum

The problem is that it's a convenient term to condemn anything one doesn't want to hear. Eventually, it will sow enough uncertainty that reality itself is undermined.


But what about actual news that is fake though?

You know, like the stuff made up on FB. What to call that?

Just lies I suppose, as MER suggests. But some are made to look like news items/reputable articles.

I though Fake News suited those quite well tbh.

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Fake News on 05:42 - Jan 17 with 2783 viewswkj

Fake news confuses me as a term, it's leveled at Satire. Anyone who reads Suffolk Gazette (and websites of that sort) and can not tell that its Satire probably need a hug.

The only one thing I have agreed with Trump on is that Buzzfeed is a heap of garbage... To me, that site is a Fake News Agency. A website that got famous by stealing content and not crediting other people for it, then suddenly deciding it's a news agency

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Fake News on 07:22 - Jan 17 with 2743 viewsSteve_M

Fake News on 05:42 - Jan 17 by wkj

Fake news confuses me as a term, it's leveled at Satire. Anyone who reads Suffolk Gazette (and websites of that sort) and can not tell that its Satire probably need a hug.

The only one thing I have agreed with Trump on is that Buzzfeed is a heap of garbage... To me, that site is a Fake News Agency. A website that got famous by stealing content and not crediting other people for it, then suddenly deciding it's a news agency


I don't think that's quite true about Buzzfeed; it's certainly how they built up name recognition but they have evolved that onto some proper journalism.

For example:
https://www.buzzfeed.com/albertonardelli/italys-most-popular-political-party-is-


As for 'Fake News', I think it's reasonably clear what that is. Made up news designed to look like it's from a reputable source and designed to be shared by those whose prejudices it confirms.

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Fake News on 07:25 - Jan 17 with 2729 viewswkj

Fake News on 07:22 - Jan 17 by Steve_M

I don't think that's quite true about Buzzfeed; it's certainly how they built up name recognition but they have evolved that onto some proper journalism.

For example:
https://www.buzzfeed.com/albertonardelli/italys-most-popular-political-party-is-


As for 'Fake News', I think it's reasonably clear what that is. Made up news designed to look like it's from a reputable source and designed to be shared by those whose prejudices it confirms.


Propaganda pretty much

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Fake News on 07:32 - Jan 17 with 2721 viewsElderGrizzly

Fake News on 00:22 - Jan 17 by jeera

But what about actual news that is fake though?

You know, like the stuff made up on FB. What to call that?

Just lies I suppose, as MER suggests. But some are made to look like news items/reputable articles.

I though Fake News suited those quite well tbh.


That's my point though. "Fake News" is just a 'modern name' given to this nonsense trotted out by campaigners to the gullible.

Most know it's fake, but because it comes from a source that they worship/believe they lap it up.
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Fake News on 07:43 - Jan 17 with 2710 viewsNo9

It is everywhere now even the BBC is dishing it out
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Fake News on 08:38 - Jan 17 with 2688 viewsBorisOrTrevor

Fake News on 07:32 - Jan 17 by ElderGrizzly

That's my point though. "Fake News" is just a 'modern name' given to this nonsense trotted out by campaigners to the gullible.

Most know it's fake, but because it comes from a source that they worship/believe they lap it up.


CNN.

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Fake News on 09:20 - Jan 17 with 2657 viewsNo9

Fake News on 08:38 - Jan 17 by BorisOrTrevor

CNN.


More like Fox News
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Fake News on 09:35 - Jan 17 with 2631 viewsWeWereZombies

Fake News on 07:25 - Jan 17 by wkj

Propaganda pretty much


Oi - none of your foreign words on a decent British website...

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Fake News on 09:47 - Jan 17 with 2615 viewsThrobbe

Fake News on 09:35 - Jan 17 by WeWereZombies

Oi - none of your foreign words on a decent British website...


Propaganda is an English word. It's what Danny Dyer has when he wants to examine something closely.

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Fake News on 10:01 - Jan 17 with 2597 viewsKing_of_Portman_Rd

Fake News on 09:47 - Jan 17 by Throbbe

Propaganda is an English word. It's what Danny Dyer has when he wants to examine something closely.


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Fake News on 23:50 - Jan 16 by Guthrum

The problem is that it's a convenient term to condemn anything one doesn't want to hear. Eventually, it will sow enough uncertainty that reality itself is undermined.


Absolutely spot on.

It is my belief that reality as brought to us through traditional media itself has been undermined for some time - and now that normal people with "accepted" mainstream views are realising this to be true, we can conclude that "the news" as we have known it for the last generation is in absolute disarray.

Here's to more critical investigative journalism and with it a more believable reality and future.

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Fake News on 10:28 - Jan 17 with 2568 viewspbishop1799

WMDs in Iraq: The biggest whopper of them all.

And to suggest that Trump got elected because of Russian hacking / fake news is preposterous as well.

I find it bizarre that liberal / left people are trusting the CIA - world masters of subterfuge - as a reliable information source. And CNN, their reporting has zero objectivity.

I don't trust any outlet to tell me what's happening in Syria either.
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Fake News on 10:41 - Jan 17 with 2542 viewsGlasgowBlue

Are we back to allegations of Cameron putting his cock in a dead pig's mouth again?

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Fake News on 10:28 - Jan 17 by pbishop1799

WMDs in Iraq: The biggest whopper of them all.

And to suggest that Trump got elected because of Russian hacking / fake news is preposterous as well.

I find it bizarre that liberal / left people are trusting the CIA - world masters of subterfuge - as a reliable information source. And CNN, their reporting has zero objectivity.

I don't trust any outlet to tell me what's happening in Syria either.


Crikey, where are all these good posters suddenly coming from?

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and

"... cheering for the CIA and its shadowy allies to unilaterally subvert the U.S. election and impose its own policy dictates on the elected president is both warped and self-destructive. Empowering the very entities that have produced the most shameful atrocities and systemic deceit over the last six decades is desperation of the worst kind. Demanding that evidence-free, anonymous assertions be instantly venerated as Truth – despite emanating from the very precincts designed to propagandize and lie – is an assault on journalism, democracy, and basic human rationality. And casually branding domestic adversaries who refuse to go along as traitors and disloyal foreign operatives is morally bankrupt and certain to backfire on those doing it."

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Fake News on 10:54 - Jan 17 with 2500 viewsWeWereZombies

Fake News on 10:41 - Jan 17 by GlasgowBlue

Are we back to allegations of Cameron putting his cock in a dead pig's mouth again?


Look, if Boris said he did it then it must be true...

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Fake News on 11:02 - Jan 17 with 2484 viewslowhouseblue

Fake News on 10:28 - Jan 17 by pbishop1799

WMDs in Iraq: The biggest whopper of them all.

And to suggest that Trump got elected because of Russian hacking / fake news is preposterous as well.

I find it bizarre that liberal / left people are trusting the CIA - world masters of subterfuge - as a reliable information source. And CNN, their reporting has zero objectivity.

I don't trust any outlet to tell me what's happening in Syria either.


who has said that trump got elected because of russian hacking ? that's your own fake news.

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Fake News on 11:02 - Jan 17 by lowhouseblue

who has said that trump got elected because of russian hacking ? that's your own fake news.


Don't be so obtuse.

I imagine that at least one of the following will claim Russian hacking influenced the US election in favour of Trump:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/12/15/vladimir-putin-personally-directed-ru
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/douglas-anthony-cooper/russia-stole-the-presiden_b
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/dec/10/cia-concludes-russia-interfered-
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/09/us/obama-russia-election-hack.html?_r=0
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2016/dec/01/russia-and-its-influ
http://europe.newsweek.com/did-russia-install-donald-trump-next-us-president-520
http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/12/12/13919702/russian-hackers-donal
https://www.wired.com/2016/11/trumps-win-signals-open-season-russias-political-h
http://www.aol.com/article/news/2016/11/18/could-russia-have-actually-hacked-the
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-cyber-russia-idUSKBN13Z05B
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/12/how-russia-wins-an-election-21452
http://uk.businessinsider.com/fbi-cia-russia-trump-2016-12?r=US&IR=T
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-elections/white-house-is-clo
http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2016/12/30/what-we-know-about-russias-hacking
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/us/what-we-know-about-russias-hacking-o
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/11/will-congress-investigate-russian-in
https://www.cnet.com/news/russia-putin-influence-us-election-donald-trump-intell

And this one is for BlueBadger:
http://www.snopes.com/2016/12/10/cia-russia-interfered-with-u-s-elections/

NOTE: This is not a comprehensive list.

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