I've. Even Micks biggest critic over the last 2 years or so... 23:51 - Jan 17 with 2496 views | ITFCBlues | But is sacking him really going to change anything? We've all seen the parameters with which he has to work within. He hasn't got a lot of money to spend and we've got a fairly average squad with a lot of injuries at present. Tonight really can't be defended in anyway what so ever. But unless there is a change of approach and we spend a bit of money, this is what we've got. We're probably situated in the league where our budget allows us to be. Sacking Mick just isn't the answer I'm afraid | |
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I've been one of Mick's biggest spporters over the last 2 years or so... on 23:58 - Jan 17 with 2465 views | Guthrum | and I agree with you to some extent, because we'd have to find someone even cleverer at using a cheap, injury-prone squad. But The look on his face when Lincoln scored told me he's possibly had enough. And he was unable to motivate the players even for a televised FA Cup tie against non-League opposition. The plan wasn't there, or wasn't executed. He's just been hit with yet another significant injury. Can he do any more? | |
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I've. Even Micks biggest critic over the last 2 years or so... on 00:01 - Jan 18 with 2451 views | Trequartista | We had all this when Royle left saying he could take it no further and Jim took us back up into the play-off positions before Marcus arrived. There weren't any million pound bids in then, just scraping together 100k for Walters, Pablo on a free etc, and some decent football. McCarthy is just a second rate manager, once very good at this level, but could never cut it in the premier league and now can't cut it at championship level either. | |
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I've. Even Micks biggest critic over the last 2 years or so... on 05:49 - Jan 18 with 2366 views | Johnny_Boy | But retaining his services & keeping him on doesn't mean his philosophy will change. This team has been assembled by him. By hook or by crook, he got us to the play-offs on a shoe string budget - and was happy to take all the accolades which went with it - along with that much publicised contract extension.......let's not forget. Ironically, that has been the rod for his own back. "Hey MM, do it again" Only this time, it's gone tits up. The 3 seasons of freebies, loanee's & 100k punts have finally taken their toll. Murphy singlehandedly got us to the play-offs. [Post edited 18 Jan 2017 6:30]
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I've. Even Micks biggest critic over the last 2 years or so... on 06:06 - Jan 18 with 2345 views | Keaneish |
I've. Even Micks biggest critic over the last 2 years or so... on 00:01 - Jan 18 by Trequartista | We had all this when Royle left saying he could take it no further and Jim took us back up into the play-off positions before Marcus arrived. There weren't any million pound bids in then, just scraping together 100k for Walters, Pablo on a free etc, and some decent football. McCarthy is just a second rate manager, once very good at this level, but could never cut it in the premier league and now can't cut it at championship level either. |
Completely agree. Some defend MM by looking at the squad and saying it's not good enough, I disagree. There's plenty of quality in that squad but they've lost their way, they look scared to pass and demand the ball. A new man needs to come in and rejuvenate this team. It's the only way. I can only hope he's taken the night to think it over and we'll hear a news report confirming his departure today. It'll be utter disbelief if he doesn't. You simply can't continue after such a performance like that. It was incompetence of the highest order laid bare in front of millions. | |
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I've. Even Micks biggest critic over the last 2 years or so... on 06:14 - Jan 18 with 2320 views | wkj | Keeping Mick isn't the answer either, The FA Cup results have made his position untenable. Keeping him employed would be insulting, regardless of who is or isn't able to take over. | |
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I've. Even Micks biggest critic over the last 2 years or so... on 07:50 - Jan 18 with 2180 views | delias_cheesy_flaps | Utterly gobsmacked we still have supporters content to suffer more unentertaining football and arrogance from a manager so detatched from how today's game should be played. The only league we will be in if MM remains is Div 1, to say sacking MM isn't the answer you're saying there's no other manager capable of getting our so called footballers to play football....Jesus you really are deluded!! | |
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I've. Even Micks biggest critic over the last 2 years or so... on 07:53 - Jan 18 with 2162 views | nodge_blue | so your argument works if we were knocked out by a championship side. But it was a non league side with a budget of 500k a year. So somewhere along the way we are not getting the right quality of player in (Best) and we are not playing to a style. Mccarthy has to take a large amount of the blame. | |
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I've. Even Micks biggest critic over the last 2 years or so... on 08:07 - Jan 18 with 2121 views | KilburnBlue | For a team of players who are one tier away from being classed a premiership footballer I cannot fathom how most of them do not know how to pass a ball to each other. No disrespect to Lincoln but to be outplayed twice by them, for me is not acceptable. | |
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I've. Even Micks biggest critic over the last 2 years or so... on 08:11 - Jan 18 with 2104 views | bournemouthblue | In the short term it would lift the general doom and gloom of this season In the long term it's anyone's guess. There's certainly a job on to evolve this side. | |
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I've. Even Micks biggest critic over the last 2 years or so... on 08:29 - Jan 18 with 2060 views | hadleighboyblue |
I've. Even Micks biggest critic over the last 2 years or so... on 07:53 - Jan 18 by nodge_blue | so your argument works if we were knocked out by a championship side. But it was a non league side with a budget of 500k a year. So somewhere along the way we are not getting the right quality of player in (Best) and we are not playing to a style. Mccarthy has to take a large amount of the blame. |
Agreed ! You can't blame the lack of investment by ME on a display like that against a non league team , who had more ideas , more skills and more passion . Lincoln haven't had millions to spend . It's the manager and the players that should take the blame for that , the manager and the players are paid good money ,the only player to show any passion was a loan player , that's simply not acceptable . | | | |
I've. Even Micks biggest critic over the last 2 years or so... on 08:40 - Jan 18 with 2021 views | DoobDude | Sacking Mick is the first thing that must be done. However it isn't the full solution, forcing Evans out of the club is the only way we will ever get our club and our identity back. | |
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I've. Even Micks biggest critic over the last 2 years or so... on 08:48 - Jan 18 with 1993 views | pablosturn |
I've. Even Micks biggest critic over the last 2 years or so... on 08:40 - Jan 18 by DoobDude | Sacking Mick is the first thing that must be done. However it isn't the full solution, forcing Evans out of the club is the only way we will ever get our club and our identity back. |
I get confused about the whole Evans out and give us our club back thing? Surely a decent manager and decent results gives us identity and our club back?? Evans isn't doing anything different to what he was doing when we were all having a party at Watford and Charlton etc but the difference is our manager has lost it. Change the manager, get some fresh ideas and players and we would "have our club back" it is just a massive blub at an owner that invests £6-7m a year in a average champ side. Give him a break, who do you want to bankroll the club? | | | |
I've. Even Micks biggest critic over the last 2 years or so... on 08:51 - Jan 18 with 1975 views | blueconscience | I agree Evans is the main problem at the club, but maybe a new manager will get us playing more positive enjoyable football if nothing else. | |
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I've. Even Micks biggest critic over the last 2 years or so... on 08:53 - Jan 18 with 1954 views | pablosturn |
I've. Even Micks biggest critic over the last 2 years or so... on 08:51 - Jan 18 by blueconscience | I agree Evans is the main problem at the club, but maybe a new manager will get us playing more positive enjoyable football if nothing else. |
What is the issue with Evans, other than him being faceless....? Just don't get it | | | |
I've. Even Micks biggest critic over the last 2 years or so... on 08:55 - Jan 18 with 1940 views | blueconscience |
I've. Even Micks biggest critic over the last 2 years or so... on 08:53 - Jan 18 by pablosturn | What is the issue with Evans, other than him being faceless....? Just don't get it |
Lack of interest or ambition, lack of funds (all clubs have to pay wages you know!!!), and most other clubs run at a loss so don't give us that he pumps in millions a year to keep the club running as most chairmen do just that. [Post edited 18 Jan 2017 8:55]
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I've. Even Micks biggest critic over the last 2 years or so... on 09:01 - Jan 18 with 1914 views | pablosturn |
I've. Even Micks biggest critic over the last 2 years or so... on 08:55 - Jan 18 by blueconscience | Lack of interest or ambition, lack of funds (all clubs have to pay wages you know!!!), and most other clubs run at a loss so don't give us that he pumps in millions a year to keep the club running as most chairmen do just that. [Post edited 18 Jan 2017 8:55]
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1. How you know he lacks interest? He comes to a lot of games and is an ITFC fan 2. He spends £6-7m a year keeping us going, who else is prepared to do that. We have a mid range budget and are a mid range English club. The point is there aren't a queue of people to buy a football club 3. He is probably holding back transfer funds as MM is doing so poorly, he has spent vast sums on transfers with all managers when necessary 4. We run at a loss yes, within the rules the FA provide | | | |
I've. Even Micks biggest critic over the last 2 years or so... on 09:02 - Jan 18 with 1911 views | Radlett_blue |
I've. Even Micks biggest critic over the last 2 years or so... on 00:01 - Jan 18 by Trequartista | We had all this when Royle left saying he could take it no further and Jim took us back up into the play-off positions before Marcus arrived. There weren't any million pound bids in then, just scraping together 100k for Walters, Pablo on a free etc, and some decent football. McCarthy is just a second rate manager, once very good at this level, but could never cut it in the premier league and now can't cut it at championship level either. |
Jim took us close to the play offs with no money. However, the game has changed since the virtual abandonment of FFP & I'd guess our playing budget is about 14th in this league. So, assuming we finish around there, McCarthy is performing at around par. Despite the hysteria about last night - and, yes, it was the most embarrassing performance I've seen in 40 years of supporting Town, given the level of the opposition - we are actually as near to the play-offs as we are to relegation. The bigger question is if a new man could do better. Possibly, while McCarthy's negative tactics are proving increasingly frustrating to the fans. So I'd get rid at the end of the season, which would seem a more appropriate time for a rebuild than January. | |
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I've. Even Micks biggest critic over the last 2 years or so... on 09:06 - Jan 18 with 1880 views | blueconscience |
I've. Even Micks biggest critic over the last 2 years or so... on 09:01 - Jan 18 by pablosturn | 1. How you know he lacks interest? He comes to a lot of games and is an ITFC fan 2. He spends £6-7m a year keeping us going, who else is prepared to do that. We have a mid range budget and are a mid range English club. The point is there aren't a queue of people to buy a football club 3. He is probably holding back transfer funds as MM is doing so poorly, he has spent vast sums on transfers with all managers when necessary 4. We run at a loss yes, within the rules the FA provide |
1. If he watches all the games, how could he be happy with the dross served up every week?. 2. As do most chairmen, when you consider the wages and signings the others are making they probably have to pay more a year. 3. Then get rid!!!! 4. The rules that only Ipswich seem to follow!! [Post edited 18 Jan 2017 9:27]
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I've. Even Micks biggest critic over the last 2 years or so... on 09:31 - Jan 18 with 1821 views | ITFCBlues |
I've. Even Micks biggest critic over the last 2 years or so... on 07:53 - Jan 18 by nodge_blue | so your argument works if we were knocked out by a championship side. But it was a non league side with a budget of 500k a year. So somewhere along the way we are not getting the right quality of player in (Best) and we are not playing to a style. Mccarthy has to take a large amount of the blame. |
Should Liverpool sack Kloop? They didn't beat Plymouth with a far superior budget. The point is, we're mid-table - that's what our budget allows. Yes - the football is sh!te but we've no money to spend & unless that changes, results on the pitch won't either | |
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I've. Even Micks biggest critic over the last 2 years or so... on 09:51 - Jan 18 with 1766 views | christiand |
I've. Even Micks biggest critic over the last 2 years or so... on 05:49 - Jan 18 by Johnny_Boy | But retaining his services & keeping him on doesn't mean his philosophy will change. This team has been assembled by him. By hook or by crook, he got us to the play-offs on a shoe string budget - and was happy to take all the accolades which went with it - along with that much publicised contract extension.......let's not forget. Ironically, that has been the rod for his own back. "Hey MM, do it again" Only this time, it's gone tits up. The 3 seasons of freebies, loanee's & 100k punts have finally taken their toll. Murphy singlehandedly got us to the play-offs. [Post edited 18 Jan 2017 6:30]
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And Derby capitulating,we where treading water towards the end of that season and stumbled into 6th place. It wasn't through our own play! | |
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