| Cancer incidence rate stats. 11:28 - Mar 10 with 1890 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
Due to a suspicion that our increasingly toxic world may be affecting rates of cancer I contacted Cancer UK for some stats, which I am posting here for anyone interested. The figures do not allay my concerns. They suggest the increases (eg 20% increase in 0-24 year olds 1992-2014) may be due to better detection but offer no evidence.
The real issue here, in my opinion, is that in these days where corporate interests trump all and reduced government spending there is absolutely no incentive/finance to
discover whether products/additives are carcinogenic or not. If the precautionary principle was law it would force business to pay for the research.
http://www.cancerresearchuk.org/health-professional/cancer-statistics/incidence/ |  |
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| Cancer incidence rate stats. on 11:34 - Mar 10 with 1855 views | oldbluestu |
Ban diesel |  | | |
| Cancer incidence rate stats. on 11:36 - Mar 10 with 1851 views | Illinoisblue |
Did you actually contact them, or just visit their website? |  |
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| Cancer incidence rate stats. on 11:39 - Mar 10 with 1839 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Cancer incidence rate stats. on 11:36 - Mar 10 by Illinoisblue |
Did you actually contact them, or just visit their website? |
Contacted them as couldn't find what I wanted on their site. Took about 3 weeks to get a reply. The site only showed figures for 2014-16. | |
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| Cancer incidence rate stats. on 11:46 - Mar 10 with 1800 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Cancer incidence rate stats. on 11:34 - Mar 10 by oldbluestu |
Ban diesel |
.....and agricultural sprays, fire retardants,air fresheners,what soluables are in the water, food additives/preservatives, hormones in milk, other pollutants in air etc etc...is it a price we are prepared to pay to live the eternal growth, 'developed' consumerist 'dream' ? | |
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| Cancer incidence rate stats. on 11:47 - Mar 10 with 1793 views | MJallday |
| Cancer incidence rate stats. on 11:34 - Mar 10 by oldbluestu |
Ban diesel |
isnt he a movie star? |  |
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| Cancer incidence rate stats. on 11:53 - Mar 10 with 1774 views | MJallday |
| Cancer incidence rate stats. on 11:46 - Mar 10 by BanksterDebtSlave |
.....and agricultural sprays, fire retardants,air fresheners,what soluables are in the water, food additives/preservatives, hormones in milk, other pollutants in air etc etc...is it a price we are prepared to pay to live the eternal growth, 'developed' consumerist 'dream' ? |
id be more sh1t scared about the amount of radiation currently pouring out of japans west coast..... thats a cover up of epic proportions. | |
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| Cancer incidence rate stats. on 12:03 - Mar 10 with 1746 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Cancer incidence rate stats. on 11:47 - Mar 10 by MJallday |
isnt he a movie star? |
Depends how you define the word 'star' (no Hoppy, not a twinkly, pointy thing!).
Good OP. |  |
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| Cancer incidence rate stats. on 12:13 - Mar 10 with 1723 views | oldbluestu |
| Cancer incidence rate stats. on 11:46 - Mar 10 by BanksterDebtSlave |
.....and agricultural sprays, fire retardants,air fresheners,what soluables are in the water, food additives/preservatives, hormones in milk, other pollutants in air etc etc...is it a price we are prepared to pay to live the eternal growth, 'developed' consumerist 'dream' ? |
Actually mobile phone usage is the cancer timebomb waiting to hit and it will hit but not until enough money has been made from selling them in vast quantities | | | |
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| Cancer incidence rate stats. on 12:15 - Mar 10 with 1715 views | hype313 |
| Cancer incidence rate stats. on 12:13 - Mar 10 by oldbluestu |
Actually mobile phone usage is the cancer timebomb waiting to hit and it will hit but not until enough money has been made from selling them in vast quantities |
Two things to take daily, Tumeric and Cannabis Oil. |  |
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| Cancer incidence rate stats. on 16:26 - Mar 10 with 1616 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Cancer incidence rate stats. on 11:53 - Mar 10 by MJallday |
id be more sh1t scared about the amount of radiation currently pouring out of japans west coast..... thats a cover up of epic proportions. |
....and add it to whatever else is still knocking around from all the historic weapons testing (half life of 1000's of years in a lot of cases ) | |
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| Cancer incidence rate stats. on 16:40 - Mar 10 with 1598 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
......as a related aside to this I strongly suspect that the story we are told about all living longer etc etc...will shortly explode. My suspicion is that the generation that have lived the longest, roughly those born in 40's and 50's and brought up on real food has now passed and that it will be a downward spiral from now on as we go headlong into the processed food generation. Time will tell ! | |
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| Cancer incidence rate stats. on 17:52 - Mar 10 with 1562 views | No9 |
| Cancer incidence rate stats. on 11:46 - Mar 10 by BanksterDebtSlave |
.....and agricultural sprays, fire retardants,air fresheners,what soluables are in the water, food additives/preservatives, hormones in milk, other pollutants in air etc etc...is it a price we are prepared to pay to live the eternal growth, 'developed' consumerist 'dream' ? |
Thanks for that
It is a pity not more people are as intersted as you intrying to find out what is creating problems for our heath.
There is all sorts of junk being put into food medicines etc. & you realise what crap comes out of the water tap when it makes crap coffe & you can't use it to make bread
& we really should be very concerned if they let American foostuffs into the UK |  | | |
| Cancer incidence rate stats. on 19:24 - Mar 10 with 1503 views | gordon |
It's well known that more people are diagnosed with cancer due to better screening methods and people living longer.
There are other factors no doubt, particularly increased obesity, but there's lots and lots of publicly available research on the causes of the increase in cancer diagnoses. |  | | |
| Cancer incidence rate stats. on 19:41 - Mar 10 with 1473 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Cancer incidence rate stats. on 19:24 - Mar 10 by gordon |
It's well known that more people are diagnosed with cancer due to better screening methods and people living longer.
There are other factors no doubt, particularly increased obesity, but there's lots and lots of publicly available research on the causes of the increase in cancer diagnoses. |
I just wonder if there is any evidence for this being the case.....or is it another example of if you tell a story for long enough then people will believe it . I would happily lay money that life expectancy rates are going to reverse in the very near future. As I suggested at the start of the thread, business/corporations have no interest in testing the potential toxicity of their products .
The evidence of my own eyes is that far to many of my circle of friends/acquaintances are developing and dying of cancer....as it says above a 20% increase in rates for 0-24 year olds !
I think we all need to question what we are told as challenging and uncomfortable as this may be at times. | |
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| Cancer incidence rate stats. on 19:46 - Mar 10 with 1462 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Cancer incidence rate stats. on 12:15 - Mar 10 by hype313 |
Two things to take daily, Tumeric and Cannabis Oil. |
Anything that boosts your immune system is a good idea......unfortunately most don't do so until a cancer has been diagnosed. This is often the point when people, including my father give up milk, sugar and meat, due to being forced into doing some research . | |
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| Cancer incidence rate stats. on 20:02 - Mar 10 with 1431 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
This kind of thing and environmental legislation is definitely an area in which the EU has benefitted us....although I'm sure some corporate lobbyists will have succeeded in a degree of watering down !
I don't have much hope for us in this respect post referendum! | |
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| Cancer incidence rate stats. on 20:04 - Mar 10 with 1428 views | Dubtractor |
| Cancer incidence rate stats. on 16:40 - Mar 10 by BanksterDebtSlave |
......as a related aside to this I strongly suspect that the story we are told about all living longer etc etc...will shortly explode. My suspicion is that the generation that have lived the longest, roughly those born in 40's and 50's and brought up on real food has now passed and that it will be a downward spiral from now on as we go headlong into the processed food generation. Time will tell ! |
I suspect you are very much correct with that.
On that note, I made the mistake of having a McDonalds burger last weekend for the first time in about 10 years ( I do eat plenty of other bad food ) and I was staggered at just how bad and clearly mega processed it was. I mean, you expect it to be poor, but I'm not even sure what the burger was made of, it was unlike any beef I've ever eaten.
The point of this aside, is that since then I have been struck by just how many people do still eat at McDonalds. That sort of mass consumption of clearly very poor food can't end well can it? |  |
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| Cancer incidence rate stats. on 20:09 - Mar 10 with 1420 views | leitrimblue |
| Cancer incidence rate stats. on 12:15 - Mar 10 by hype313 |
Two things to take daily, Tumeric and Cannabis Oil. |
Its unfortunate that cannabis oil is such an expensive product |  | | |
| Cancer incidence rate stats. on 20:10 - Mar 10 with 1416 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Cancer incidence rate stats. on 20:04 - Mar 10 by Dubtractor |
I suspect you are very much correct with that.
On that note, I made the mistake of having a McDonalds burger last weekend for the first time in about 10 years ( I do eat plenty of other bad food ) and I was staggered at just how bad and clearly mega processed it was. I mean, you expect it to be poor, but I'm not even sure what the burger was made of, it was unlike any beef I've ever eaten.
The point of this aside, is that since then I have been struck by just how many people do still eat at McDonalds. That sort of mass consumption of clearly very poor food can't end well can it? |
Can't remember the last time I had a McDonalds burger, I think they are horrific. Have to admit I am partial to a BK now and again.
I am slightly addicted to a double sausage and egg Mc Muff though. |  |
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| Cancer incidence rate stats. on 19:12 - Mar 11 with 1231 views | gordon |
| Cancer incidence rate stats. on 19:41 - Mar 10 by BanksterDebtSlave |
I just wonder if there is any evidence for this being the case.....or is it another example of if you tell a story for long enough then people will believe it . I would happily lay money that life expectancy rates are going to reverse in the very near future. As I suggested at the start of the thread, business/corporations have no interest in testing the potential toxicity of their products .
The evidence of my own eyes is that far to many of my circle of friends/acquaintances are developing and dying of cancer....as it says above a 20% increase in rates for 0-24 year olds !
I think we all need to question what we are told as challenging and uncomfortable as this may be at times. |
Cancers that children/teenagers get are very, very unlikely to be due to lifestyle factors like diet, radiation and obesity.
The cancers that people get in their twenties are now much more likely to be diagnosed earlier: if cancer were on average diagnosed 6 months earlier now than at the start of the data series, that would account for much of the 'increase' in cancer diagnoses within the 0-24 age group.
It's interesting to think about what Geoffrey Rose (a leading UK scientist) said about cancer:
"if we were to eradicate death from cancer, life expectancy would rise by less than four years. Yet the difference in life expectancy between the richest and poorest in Britain is around 20 years." | | | |
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