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Trump's latest travel ban... 22:58 - Mar 20 with 1004 viewsElderGrizzly

Not Muslims themselves, but their iPads....

https://t.co/5Q9icK4iBE
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Trump's latest travel ban... on 05:22 - Mar 21 with 867 viewsBenters

In other news a terrorist attack was carried out at a Paris airport 3 days ago by a radicalised Muslim .

Strange how nobody on here noticed that !

Gentlybentley
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Trump's latest travel ban... on 05:58 - Mar 21 with 846 viewsjeera

Trump's latest travel ban... on 05:22 - Mar 21 by Benters

In other news a terrorist attack was carried out at a Paris airport 3 days ago by a radicalised Muslim .

Strange how nobody on here noticed that !


Lots of things happened yesterday that I've not noticed posted here, though I may have missed them of course.

Young Derry footballer Ryan McBride's coffin was carried to the family home, following his untimely death on Sunday.

There was a plane crash in Sudan. Amazingly people survived, despite initial reports stating that all aboard had died.

Apparently a freight train derailed in Somerset...

Well it looks like a duck, it sounds like a duck. Nope, dunno what it is.
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Trump's latest travel ban... on 06:24 - Mar 21 with 816 viewsBenters

Trump's latest travel ban... on 05:58 - Mar 21 by jeera

Lots of things happened yesterday that I've not noticed posted here, though I may have missed them of course.

Young Derry footballer Ryan McBride's coffin was carried to the family home, following his untimely death on Sunday.

There was a plane crash in Sudan. Amazingly people survived, despite initial reports stating that all aboard had died.

Apparently a freight train derailed in Somerset...


Not sure what your getting at .

Gentlybentley
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Trump's latest travel ban... on 06:29 - Mar 21 with 811 viewsTractorWood

By they aren't strictly banned, you just have to put it into the hold.

I know that was then, but it could be again..
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Trump's latest travel ban... on 06:32 - Mar 21 with 800 viewsBenters

Trump's latest travel ban... on 06:29 - Mar 21 by TractorWood

By they aren't strictly banned, you just have to put it into the hold.


MER loves his Ipad..

Gentlybentley
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Trump's latest travel ban... on 06:58 - Mar 21 with 771 viewsElderGrizzly

Trump's latest travel ban... on 06:29 - Mar 21 by TractorWood

By they aren't strictly banned, you just have to put it into the hold.


Indeed, where a damaged Lithium battery could catch on fire and nothing can be done about it until it's too late.

It's utterly dumb on so many levels
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Trump's latest travel ban... on 07:00 - Mar 21 with 761 viewsElderGrizzly

Trump's latest travel ban... on 05:22 - Mar 21 by Benters

In other news a terrorist attack was carried out at a Paris airport 3 days ago by a radicalised Muslim .

Strange how nobody on here noticed that !


Did we miss your post on it? Sorry!
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Trump's latest travel ban... on 07:01 - Mar 21 with 756 viewsElderGrizzly

Trump's latest travel ban... on 06:32 - Mar 21 by Benters

MER loves his Ipad..


The fact you don't get why it's dangerous isn't a surprise really....
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Trump's latest travel ban... on 07:53 - Mar 21 with 720 viewsPinewoodblue

Trump's latest travel ban... on 06:29 - Mar 21 by TractorWood

By they aren't strictly banned, you just have to put it into the hold.


But the ban only applies to certain airlines. You can still take your iPad on a US airlines aircraft flying to the same destinations.

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Trump's latest travel ban... on 08:18 - Mar 21 with 696 viewsMJallday

Trump's latest travel ban... on 05:58 - Mar 21 by jeera

Lots of things happened yesterday that I've not noticed posted here, though I may have missed them of course.

Young Derry footballer Ryan McBride's coffin was carried to the family home, following his untimely death on Sunday.

There was a plane crash in Sudan. Amazingly people survived, despite initial reports stating that all aboard had died.

Apparently a freight train derailed in Somerset...


thats nothing .

in hereford, someone from ofsted said "carry on" to a school - and this was reported on

not.even.joking.

http://www.herefordtimes.com/news/15170141.Hereford_school___39_continues_to_be_

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Trump's latest travel ban... on 08:24 - Mar 21 with 671 viewsGlasgowBlue

Trump's latest travel ban... on 05:58 - Mar 21 by jeera

Lots of things happened yesterday that I've not noticed posted here, though I may have missed them of course.

Young Derry footballer Ryan McBride's coffin was carried to the family home, following his untimely death on Sunday.

There was a plane crash in Sudan. Amazingly people survived, despite initial reports stating that all aboard had died.

Apparently a freight train derailed in Somerset...


In fairness Jeera, this thread is about perceived preventative measures with regards to Islamic terror attacks.

Both examples you give are tragic accidents whereas the example benters gives is a deliberate attempt to end life.

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Trump's latest travel ban... on 08:30 - Mar 21 with 662 viewsjeera

Trump's latest travel ban... on 08:24 - Mar 21 by GlasgowBlue

In fairness Jeera, this thread is about perceived preventative measures with regards to Islamic terror attacks.

Both examples you give are tragic accidents whereas the example benters gives is a deliberate attempt to end life.


I meant he hadn't bothered himself to post on the topic.

No comparison intended.

And yes, tragic events in their own right.

Well it looks like a duck, it sounds like a duck. Nope, dunno what it is.
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Trump's latest travel ban... on 08:35 - Mar 21 with 642 viewsGeoffSentence

Trump's latest travel ban... on 05:22 - Mar 21 by Benters

In other news a terrorist attack was carried out at a Paris airport 3 days ago by a radicalised Muslim .

Strange how nobody on here noticed that !


It has taken you 3 days to get excited about it. I find that strange.

In the 38 games in which ALB played in goal for us, we averaged 1.53 points per game which, had they been over the course of a single season, would have seen us challenging for the play offs. This at a time when we were otherwise struggling against relegation. Oh, and didn't Mick Mills have terrific posture.
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Trump's latest travel ban... on 09:06 - Mar 21 with 607 viewsSwansea_Blue

Trump's latest travel ban... on 05:22 - Mar 21 by Benters

In other news a terrorist attack was carried out at a Paris airport 3 days ago by a radicalised Muslim .

Strange how nobody on here noticed that !


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/20/cctv-shows-moment-paris-airport-attac

Sounds like he was pickled more than radicalised.

Meanwhile in other news, based on the daily average of annual figures you would have expected 27 deaths on French roads since this attack took place. I look forward to your campaign for road safety or calls to ban vehicles.

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Trump's latest travel ban... on 09:07 - Mar 21 with 602 viewsSwansea_Blue

Odd. Not sure what you could do on a tablet that you couldn't do with a phone. Unless the intelligence was that someone was planning to batter people with outdated, heavy IT equipment.

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Trump's latest travel ban... on 09:12 - Mar 21 with 593 viewsGlasgowBlue

Trump's latest travel ban... on 09:06 - Mar 21 by Swansea_Blue

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/20/cctv-shows-moment-paris-airport-attac

Sounds like he was pickled more than radicalised.

Meanwhile in other news, based on the daily average of annual figures you would have expected 27 deaths on French roads since this attack took place. I look forward to your campaign for road safety or calls to ban vehicles.


Your final paragraph is pretty weak imo.

You try to contextualise deliberate attempts at murder and terror by bringing in statistics on accidents.

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Trump's latest travel ban... on 09:22 - Mar 21 with 588 viewsSwansea_Blue

Trump's latest travel ban... on 09:12 - Mar 21 by GlasgowBlue

Your final paragraph is pretty weak imo.

You try to contextualise deliberate attempts at murder and terror by bringing in statistics on accidents.


I don't think it's strange to put things in context. I'm not making value judgements between the two. A life's a life (although there weren't any lives taken in the Paris attack, which doesn't sound like a planned terror attack in any case).
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Trump's latest travel ban... on 09:26 - Mar 21 with 565 viewsGlasgowBlue

Trump's latest travel ban... on 09:22 - Mar 21 by Swansea_Blue

I don't think it's strange to put things in context. I'm not making value judgements between the two. A life's a life (although there weren't any lives taken in the Paris attack, which doesn't sound like a planned terror attack in any case).
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Accidents happen. They can often be tragic and we can take steps to avoid accidents. But ultimately that is exactly what they are accidents.

However, acts of murder and terror involve people making a decision to take lives.

I can't see how the two can be compared.

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Trump's latest travel ban... on 10:03 - Mar 21 with 534 viewsSwansea_Blue

Trump's latest travel ban... on 09:26 - Mar 21 by GlasgowBlue

Accidents happen. They can often be tragic and we can take steps to avoid accidents. But ultimately that is exactly what they are accidents.

However, acts of murder and terror involve people making a decision to take lives.

I can't see how the two can be compared.


I'm only making a comparison in terms of the scale of the impact, not motives. Although to say that all road deaths are accidents isn't the case at all as the number of drink, drug and recent high profile phone-related deaths show). But no those people, whilst criminally negligent don't set out to kill anyone, so of course I can see the difference.

Anyway, It's a bit of a bugbear of mine that 1,700-1,800 people can be killed on our roads every year and it barely generates a ripple. And I'd say that's worth caring about (I know you're not saying that isn't the case). Yet the press and certain people are keen to jump on an overseas attack by a Muslim and ram fear down people's throats, when statistically the likelihood of being caught up in something like that is miniscule compared to other risks we face.

It's similar with the 'collateral' military deaths. Thousands and we're completely desensitised to them.

If we didn't put things in context, we'd all be quivering wrecks cowering under the barrage of hate in the Express, Main, Sun, etc.

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Trump's latest travel ban... on 12:17 - Mar 21 with 486 viewsBenters

Trump's latest travel ban... on 08:24 - Mar 21 by GlasgowBlue

In fairness Jeera, this thread is about perceived preventative measures with regards to Islamic terror attacks.

Both examples you give are tragic accidents whereas the example benters gives is a deliberate attempt to end life.


Indeed .

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Trump's latest travel ban... on 14:29 - Mar 21 with 419 viewsGlasgowBlue

Not just Trump.

Looks like the UK is also introducing the same ban on electronic devices.

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Trump's latest travel ban... on 15:18 - Mar 21 with 385 viewsElderGrizzly

Trump's latest travel ban... on 14:29 - Mar 21 by GlasgowBlue

Not just Trump.

Looks like the UK is also introducing the same ban on electronic devices.


Ban is likely to be slightly different from what we've been told.

If the issue is bombs in laptops or iPads, whether the hold or hand luggage is fairly irrelevant. The plane is still coming down.

Either ban them or don't. This right now doesn't actually help anyone, apart from introduce a new risk to damage and combustion of lithium batteries in the hold where a fire is more difficult to detect and control

With only a mobile in the cabin (which is allowed under this plan), I could still detonate a bomb via bluetooth to a device in the hold.

All rushed and not thought through
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Trump's latest travel ban... on 15:31 - Mar 21 with 358 viewsThe_Romford_Blue

Trump's latest travel ban... on 09:12 - Mar 21 by GlasgowBlue

Your final paragraph is pretty weak imo.

You try to contextualise deliberate attempts at murder and terror by bringing in statistics on accidents.


He's just putting the numbers into context if you ask me

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Trump's latest travel ban... on 15:53 - Mar 21 with 329 viewsGlasgowBlue

Trump's latest travel ban... on 15:31 - Mar 21 by The_Romford_Blue

He's just putting the numbers into context if you ask me


Yes. That's why I used the word "contextualise".
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Trump's latest travel ban... on 15:58 - Mar 21 with 319 viewsBenters

Trump's latest travel ban... on 15:18 - Mar 21 by ElderGrizzly

Ban is likely to be slightly different from what we've been told.

If the issue is bombs in laptops or iPads, whether the hold or hand luggage is fairly irrelevant. The plane is still coming down.

Either ban them or don't. This right now doesn't actually help anyone, apart from introduce a new risk to damage and combustion of lithium batteries in the hold where a fire is more difficult to detect and control

With only a mobile in the cabin (which is allowed under this plan), I could still detonate a bomb via bluetooth to a device in the hold.

All rushed and not thought through
[Post edited 21 Mar 15:20]


Blimey i wouldnt say that in check in if i were you !

Gentlybentley
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