| Latest police statement 22:30 - Mar 22 with 3034 views | The_Romford_Blue |
3 members of public dead. 1 police officer dead. 1 Attacker dead.
40 people injured. 3 of which are police and two are in a serious condition.
The number has gradually grown all day. It was believed to be just 4 to 12 injured earlier.
Awful stuff
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| Latest police statement on 09:40 - Mar 23 with 747 views | Benters |
| Latest police statement on 09:36 - Mar 23 by dryas |
Attacker. |
Mug ! why dont you just call him a 'freedom fighter' ? |  |
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| Latest police statement on 10:09 - Mar 23 with 731 views | dryas |
| Latest police statement on 09:40 - Mar 23 by Benters |
Mug ! why dont you just call him a 'freedom fighter' ? |
Because I have no idea what motivated him. Nor do you. |  | | |
| Latest police statement on 10:15 - Mar 23 with 726 views | Benters |
| Latest police statement on 10:09 - Mar 23 by dryas |
Because I have no idea what motivated him. Nor do you. |
Being a Radical Muslim didnt help .It has been linked to Islamic terror.
Look its not hard is it a man carried out a terrorist act yesterday in London therefore he was a terrorist .
Why do some of you on here find it so hard to accept there are people living in this country who hate us and our way of life?
7 people have been held in connection with it already. | |
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| Latest police statement on 10:19 - Mar 23 with 717 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Latest police statement on 10:09 - Mar 23 by dryas |
Because I have no idea what motivated him. Nor do you. |
There appears to have been a randomness about his actions. Looks as if he only crashed the car where he did as there was a large group of people standing there. He had to run some distance to get to the open gates. |  |
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| Latest police statement on 10:27 - Mar 23 with 711 views | dryas |
| Latest police statement on 10:15 - Mar 23 by Benters |
Being a Radical Muslim didnt help .It has been linked to Islamic terror.
Look its not hard is it a man carried out a terrorist act yesterday in London therefore he was a terrorist .
Why do some of you on here find it so hard to accept there are people living in this country who hate us and our way of life?
7 people have been held in connection with it already. |
Things are not as clear cut as you seem to believe in most of your posts. It rather depends upon how you define terrorism doesn't it? For example, this is how some dictionaries define it:
Cambridge Dictionary: (threats of) violent action for political purposes
Oxford English Dictionary: the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.
Was the perpetrators aim political? I have no idea. How will an act like that intimidate and to what end? I have no idea if he hates my way of life or indeed how you would define that. Yesterday was marked by our politicians making typically appropriate and inappropriate statements - some glowing tributes to the work of the police and emergency services mixed with meaningless and unhelpful tripe about "our way of life", "hate" etc.
The definition of terrorism is somewhat more complex than simply looking in a dictionary, but based upon our traditional understanding of it then I'm not sure this kind of violent criminal behaviour fits, nor is it a helpful characterisation. Just my opinion of course, but then I've never been one to blindly accept what I'm told. | | | |
| Latest police statement on 10:30 - Mar 23 with 698 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Latest police statement on 10:27 - Mar 23 by dryas |
Things are not as clear cut as you seem to believe in most of your posts. It rather depends upon how you define terrorism doesn't it? For example, this is how some dictionaries define it:
Cambridge Dictionary: (threats of) violent action for political purposes
Oxford English Dictionary: the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.
Was the perpetrators aim political? I have no idea. How will an act like that intimidate and to what end? I have no idea if he hates my way of life or indeed how you would define that. Yesterday was marked by our politicians making typically appropriate and inappropriate statements - some glowing tributes to the work of the police and emergency services mixed with meaningless and unhelpful tripe about "our way of life", "hate" etc.
The definition of terrorism is somewhat more complex than simply looking in a dictionary, but based upon our traditional understanding of it then I'm not sure this kind of violent criminal behaviour fits, nor is it a helpful characterisation. Just my opinion of course, but then I've never been one to blindly accept what I'm told. |
4 dead and as many as 40 injured and you are arguing the toss over the definition of terrorism.
Show some respect and give it a rest. |  |
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| Latest police statement on 10:38 - Mar 23 with 682 views | caught-in-limbo |
| Latest police statement on 10:30 - Mar 23 by GlasgowBlue |
4 dead and as many as 40 injured and you are arguing the toss over the definition of terrorism.
Show some respect and give it a rest. |
I think you can question every aspect of this crime and still have utmost respect for anyone who was injured or lost their life.
In fact, failing to question any part of this because of injury or death is very dangerous whether it happens on the streets of London, Paris, Moscow or Tehran. |  |
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| Latest police statement on 11:14 - Mar 23 with 632 views | giant_stow |
| Latest police statement on 10:27 - Mar 23 by dryas |
Things are not as clear cut as you seem to believe in most of your posts. It rather depends upon how you define terrorism doesn't it? For example, this is how some dictionaries define it:
Cambridge Dictionary: (threats of) violent action for political purposes
Oxford English Dictionary: the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.
Was the perpetrators aim political? I have no idea. How will an act like that intimidate and to what end? I have no idea if he hates my way of life or indeed how you would define that. Yesterday was marked by our politicians making typically appropriate and inappropriate statements - some glowing tributes to the work of the police and emergency services mixed with meaningless and unhelpful tripe about "our way of life", "hate" etc.
The definition of terrorism is somewhat more complex than simply looking in a dictionary, but based upon our traditional understanding of it then I'm not sure this kind of violent criminal behaviour fits, nor is it a helpful characterisation. Just my opinion of course, but then I've never been one to blindly accept what I'm told. |
Personally, I'd agree its too early to jump to conclusions about what motivated this person, but terrorism is a very safe working assumption, given he was known to the security services.
I'd also question why politicians talking about 'our way of life' and 'hate' is problematic? Its what people need to hear as a group - it helps get back to normality. I see no problem with that. |  |
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| Latest police statement on 11:25 - Mar 23 with 612 views | Dolly2.0 |
| Latest police statement on 08:49 - Mar 23 by factual_blue |
Westminster Bridge - pretty busy, lots of tourists so you can make an international impact, and you can kill somebody at the Houses of Parliament as well.
London Bridge - just commuters, and only markedly more busy than other bridges during rush hour. |
This. I travel over both fairly regularly and it's as you say it. Lots of tourists on Westminster Bridge throughout the day, getting selfies with Big Ben in the background. |  |
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| Latest police statement on 11:32 - Mar 23 with 583 views | Benters |
| Latest police statement on 11:25 - Mar 23 by Dolly2.0 |
This. I travel over both fairly regularly and it's as you say it. Lots of tourists on Westminster Bridge throughout the day, getting selfies with Big Ben in the background. |
I walked over that to get to Lambeth pier to get on one of those party boat jobbies.
It funny how things come back to you,seeing those school children coming out of Parliament reminded me i did that school trip as a sprog.
We live in terrible times. | |
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| Latest police statement on 11:33 - Mar 23 with 576 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Latest police statement on 11:25 - Mar 23 by Dolly2.0 |
This. I travel over both fairly regularly and it's as you say it. Lots of tourists on Westminster Bridge throughout the day, getting selfies with Big Ben in the background. |
The last time I was at Westminster was for the refugee action march but the time before that was with the family and Westminster Bridge was absolutely chocca. To the extent that the kids were clinging on to me and the Mrs so we didn't get separated. | |
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| Latest police statement on 14:01 - Mar 23 with 522 views | Dolly2.0 |
| Latest police statement on 11:33 - Mar 23 by GlasgowBlue |
The last time I was at Westminster was for the refugee action march but the time before that was with the family and Westminster Bridge was absolutely chocca. To the extent that the kids were clinging on to me and the Mrs so we didn't get separated. |
Yeah it's always very busy. Cycling along, pedestrians are almost falling off the pavement in front of you it's so rammed. You even have people who've just got married having photos with Big Ben in the back ground. Then there's photo opportunities of the London Eye at the other end.
Far busier than London Bridge IMO. | |
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| Latest police statement on 14:17 - Mar 23 with 492 views | vapour_trail |
| Latest police statement on 10:30 - Mar 23 by GlasgowBlue |
4 dead and as many as 40 injured and you are arguing the toss over the definition of terrorism.
Show some respect and give it a rest. |
Don't be silly. Expressing an opinion isn't disrespectful. |  |
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