| State funeral for murdered Policeman 18:01 - Mar 23 with 4515 views | Archer4721 |
Really? |  | | |  |
| State funeral for murdered Policeman on 19:05 - Mar 23 with 1209 views | Lord_Lucan |
| State funeral for murdered Policeman on 19:04 - Mar 23 by oldbluestu |
He gave his life defending democracy, he deserves it |
Have you any idea how few people get a State Funeral? |  |
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| State funeral for murdered Policeman on 19:08 - Mar 23 with 1205 views | Benters |
I think its a wonderful idea and it will bring the people of London and dear old Blighty together .
We cant let a few fkwits ruin our great country.
Rule Britannia. |  |
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| State funeral for murdered Policeman on 19:13 - Mar 23 with 1194 views | factual_blue |
| State funeral for murdered Policeman on 19:08 - Mar 23 by Benters |
I think its a wonderful idea and it will bring the people of London and dear old Blighty together .
We cant let a few fkwits ruin our great country.
Rule Britannia. |
It's funny how those who beat the patriot's drum the loudest have the poorest grasp of this country's history and traditions. |  |
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| State funeral for murdered Policeman on 19:33 - Mar 23 with 1160 views | nbsiyag |
| State funeral for murdered Policeman on 19:13 - Mar 23 by factual_blue |
It's funny how those who beat the patriot's drum the loudest have the poorest grasp of this country's history and traditions. |
Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel - Samuel Johnson 1775 |  | | |
| State funeral for murdered Policeman on 19:38 - Mar 23 with 1149 views | noggin |
| State funeral for murdered Policeman on 19:13 - Mar 23 by factual_blue |
It's funny how those who beat the patriot's drum the loudest have the poorest grasp of this country's history and traditions. |
Britain has spread peace and harmony around the world, since forever and that. |  |
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| State funeral for murdered Policeman on 19:44 - Mar 23 with 1136 views | Benters |
| State funeral for murdered Policeman on 19:13 - Mar 23 by factual_blue |
It's funny how those who beat the patriot's drum the loudest have the poorest grasp of this country's history and traditions. |
Stick to winding up the yoof about pensions and buying houses theres a good chap. | |
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| State funeral for murdered Policeman on 19:50 - Mar 23 with 1121 views | GlasgowBlue |
| State funeral for murdered Policeman on 19:05 - Mar 23 by Archer4721 |
Nor did queen Mother or Diana.
I'm starting to get a bit narked at the number of MP's lining up to say how they'll bravely continue to do their job.They work in one of the worlds most secure buildings FFS. They're also trying to claim Mr Palmer as ''one of them''. Not so long ago they were calling his like plebs! |
You really do post from a position of ignorance.
One MP spent 15 minutes trying to save Keith Palmer's life. Another served alongside him in the army.
As for being in one of the most secure buildings, had Michael Fallons armed security guard not been there by chance there were no other armed officers keeping the attacker out of the HOC. And that's before we even look at how easy a target an MP is at their weekly surgeries. |  |
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| State funeral for murdered Policeman on 19:56 - Mar 23 with 1113 views | J2BLUE |
| State funeral for murdered Policeman on 18:49 - Mar 23 by vapour_trail |
Blair should just get hoyed into the river with a couple of heavy weights. |
As a heavyweight I beg you not to do that. |  |
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| State funeral for murdered Policeman on 20:00 - Mar 23 with 1106 views | bluelagos |
| State funeral for murdered Policeman on 19:50 - Mar 23 by GlasgowBlue |
You really do post from a position of ignorance.
One MP spent 15 minutes trying to save Keith Palmer's life. Another served alongside him in the army.
As for being in one of the most secure buildings, had Michael Fallons armed security guard not been there by chance there were no other armed officers keeping the attacker out of the HOC. And that's before we even look at how easy a target an MP is at their weekly surgeries. |
I recently spoke to my MP at a surgery and was amazed there was no security. The surgery wasn't advertised as such, so a dodgy character wouldn't have known it was on. But it did strike me that anyone could have brought in a weapon without any difficulty.
Prior to the appointment, I did have to provide my name / phone number so presume some check was made to ensure I wasn't a known danger, but I did feel it was an easy target for some loon. |  |
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| State funeral for murdered Policeman on 20:00 - Mar 23 with 1105 views | Lord_Lucan |
| State funeral for murdered Policeman on 19:50 - Mar 23 by GlasgowBlue |
You really do post from a position of ignorance.
One MP spent 15 minutes trying to save Keith Palmer's life. Another served alongside him in the army.
As for being in one of the most secure buildings, had Michael Fallons armed security guard not been there by chance there were no other armed officers keeping the attacker out of the HOC. And that's before we even look at how easy a target an MP is at their weekly surgeries. |
Are you saying there is no full time armed presence outside HOP?
That is crazy | |
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| State funeral for murdered Policeman on 20:03 - Mar 23 with 1090 views | Steve_M |
| State funeral for murdered Policeman on 19:05 - Mar 23 by Archer4721 |
Nor did queen Mother or Diana.
I'm starting to get a bit narked at the number of MP's lining up to say how they'll bravely continue to do their job.They work in one of the worlds most secure buildings FFS. They're also trying to claim Mr Palmer as ''one of them''. Not so long ago they were calling his like plebs! |
Apart from when they work in their constituencies and meet constituents. Like Jo Cox did. |  |
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| State funeral for murdered Policeman on 20:08 - Mar 23 with 1082 views | britbiker |
| State funeral for murdered Policeman on 19:04 - Mar 23 by oldbluestu |
He gave his life defending democracy, he deserves it |
Based on that then wouldn't all serving soldiers who get killed in action all get one! Can't see it happening. He should definitely get honoured and tge family get all the help they will need, but a state funeral isn't going to happen. |  | | |
| State funeral for murdered Policeman on 20:22 - Mar 23 with 1039 views | oldbluestu |
| State funeral for murdered Policeman on 19:05 - Mar 23 by Lord_Lucan |
Have you any idea how few people get a State Funeral? |
What difference does that make?
The guy could've jumped out of the way I'm sure in the hope the armed police would shoot the terrorist but he didn't he tried to stop him knowing I'm sure he could die, hero's like that deserve a state funeral
Trouble is some people in this country are so anti police they won't event acknowledge when a policeman gives their life |  | | |
| State funeral for murdered Policeman on 20:24 - Mar 23 with 1026 views | noggin |
| State funeral for murdered Policeman on 20:22 - Mar 23 by oldbluestu |
What difference does that make?
The guy could've jumped out of the way I'm sure in the hope the armed police would shoot the terrorist but he didn't he tried to stop him knowing I'm sure he could die, hero's like that deserve a state funeral
Trouble is some people in this country are so anti police they won't event acknowledge when a policeman gives their life |
How do you know what happened? | |
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| State funeral for murdered Policeman on 20:29 - Mar 23 with 1024 views | Lord_Lucan |
| State funeral for murdered Policeman on 20:22 - Mar 23 by oldbluestu |
What difference does that make?
The guy could've jumped out of the way I'm sure in the hope the armed police would shoot the terrorist but he didn't he tried to stop him knowing I'm sure he could die, hero's like that deserve a state funeral
Trouble is some people in this country are so anti police they won't event acknowledge when a policeman gives their life |
You are so off the mark. There is no reason why he can't have a funeral with full military honours but State Funerals are generally for the likes of Kings and Queens.
There has probably only been about half a dozen state funerals in the last 100 odd years | |
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| State funeral for murdered Policeman on 20:51 - Mar 23 with 998 views | Archer4721 |
| State funeral for murdered Policeman on 19:50 - Mar 23 by GlasgowBlue |
You really do post from a position of ignorance.
One MP spent 15 minutes trying to save Keith Palmer's life. Another served alongside him in the army.
As for being in one of the most secure buildings, had Michael Fallons armed security guard not been there by chance there were no other armed officers keeping the attacker out of the HOC. And that's before we even look at how easy a target an MP is at their weekly surgeries. |
Yes ,yes ,yes. But what about PC Toby Rowland who also served ministers and other MP's on the main gate in Downing Street protecting them who when he asked you know who to take his bike out of Downing Street through the main gate for security reasons,he called him a "pleb".
He wasn't considered "one of us" was he. | | | |
| State funeral for murdered Policeman on 20:52 - Mar 23 with 994 views | Archer4721 |
| State funeral for murdered Policeman on 20:03 - Mar 23 by Steve_M |
Apart from when they work in their constituencies and meet constituents. Like Jo Cox did. |
Yes but that's another story would you not agree. | | | |
| State funeral for murdered Policeman on 22:13 - Mar 23 with 907 views | ElderGrizzly |
There is an armed presence just behind those gates at all times. 2 heavily armed police are behind the unarmed police on the gate 24/7
Something appears to have gone wrong yesterday in terms of coverage, but these reports are all speculation right now |  | | |
| State funeral for murdered Policeman on 22:43 - Mar 23 with 886 views | factual_blue |
| State funeral for murdered Policeman on 19:44 - Mar 23 by Benters |
Stick to winding up the yoof about pensions and buying houses theres a good chap. |
Run me through how the 14 year old Princess Elizabeth was driving an ambulance during The Blitz......... | |
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| State funeral for murdered Policeman on 22:52 - Mar 23 with 878 views | Dolly2.0 |
| State funeral for murdered Policeman on 18:59 - Mar 23 by Lord_Lucan |
They can push all they want but it's a non starter. It is so far out of the box it is unreal.
Even Margaret and Mountbatten never got one. Edit; Not even The Queen Mother
Unless of course they have got a Facebook campaign going. [Post edited 23 Mar 2017 19:04]
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1. I don't think I entirely know what is meant by a "state funeral". I thought it just meant a big lavish one for all to see and to pay their respects, a la Diana (that we pay for).
2. Why do you care so much that it shouldn't be a state funeral? This chap deserves massive respect. I don't care how they do that but he massively does.
The police are probably one of the most maligned of the forces, but they do an amazing job and we'd all be worse off without them. I couldn't do that job. I would sh!t my pants on the first day. It wouldn't bother me if they carried his body on a golden chariot to show respect for someone who gave their life in one of the toughest professions. |  |
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| State funeral for murdered Policeman on 23:00 - Mar 23 with 855 views | GlasgowBlue |
| State funeral for murdered Policeman on 22:13 - Mar 23 by ElderGrizzly |
There is an armed presence just behind those gates at all times. 2 heavily armed police are behind the unarmed police on the gate 24/7
Something appears to have gone wrong yesterday in terms of coverage, but these reports are all speculation right now |
Well the armed police weren't there when the attack took place and it was a fortunate coincidence that Mr Fallon's security guard was there at the time.
It seems entirely reasonable to think that the armed police headed in the direction of where the car crashed leaving the gate unarmed. | |
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| State funeral for murdered Policeman on 23:11 - Mar 23 with 840 views | Dolly2.0 |
| State funeral for murdered Policeman on 23:00 - Mar 23 by GlasgowBlue |
Well the armed police weren't there when the attack took place and it was a fortunate coincidence that Mr Fallon's security guard was there at the time.
It seems entirely reasonable to think that the armed police headed in the direction of where the car crashed leaving the gate unarmed. |
There are armed police just up the road at Downing Street who could've been on the scene in two minutes (I cycle past them every day). But I must admit I'd expect a few sprinkled around the HOP given its importance. | |
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| State funeral for murdered Policeman on 23:11 - Mar 23 with 840 views | vapour_trail |
| State funeral for murdered Policeman on 23:00 - Mar 23 by GlasgowBlue |
Well the armed police weren't there when the attack took place and it was a fortunate coincidence that Mr Fallon's security guard was there at the time.
It seems entirely reasonable to think that the armed police headed in the direction of where the car crashed leaving the gate unarmed. |
It's not entirely reasonable at all. The place must be crawling with them, and in the case of an attack, there would be some with the specific task of protecting the place.
I can't believe that's not the case. |  |
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| State funeral for murdered Policeman on 23:16 - Mar 23 with 822 views | Lord_Lucan |
| State funeral for murdered Policeman on 22:52 - Mar 23 by Dolly2.0 |
1. I don't think I entirely know what is meant by a "state funeral". I thought it just meant a big lavish one for all to see and to pay their respects, a la Diana (that we pay for).
2. Why do you care so much that it shouldn't be a state funeral? This chap deserves massive respect. I don't care how they do that but he massively does.
The police are probably one of the most maligned of the forces, but they do an amazing job and we'd all be worse off without them. I couldn't do that job. I would sh!t my pants on the first day. It wouldn't bother me if they carried his body on a golden chariot to show respect for someone who gave their life in one of the toughest professions. |
A state funeral is a world away from a lavish funeral. I am not saying that the copper shouldn't have a recognised funeral with military honours and all that but a state funeral it is not.
Edit; Diana did not have a state funeral. [Post edited 23 Mar 2017 23:18]
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