| Anyone else read a letter from British YPG fighters on last week's attack? on 09:32 - Mar 26 with 2285 views | Herbivore |
That's excellent. |  |
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| Anyone else read a letter from British YPG fighters on last week's attack? on 09:49 - Mar 26 with 2265 views | Guthrum |
People tend to forget that the majority of the victims of Islamist terrorism worldwide have themselves been muslim. |  |
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| Anyone else read a letter from British YPG fighters on last week's attack? on 09:54 - Mar 26 with 2238 views | Ftnfwest |
| Anyone else read a letter from British YPG fighters on last week's attack? on 09:49 - Mar 26 by Guthrum |
People tend to forget that the majority of the victims of Islamist terrorism worldwide have themselves been muslim. |
The majority of sectarian victims are as well |  | | |
| Anyone else read a letter from British YPG fighters on last week's attack? on 10:00 - Mar 26 with 2215 views | Guthrum |
| Anyone else read a letter from British YPG fighters on last week's attack? on 09:54 - Mar 26 by Ftnfwest |
The majority of sectarian victims are as well |
Partly what I was referring to. Jihadi Islamism has a tendency to be highly sectarian (most commonly the Wahabi strand of Sunni Islam). To the point where IS appears to fall within the definition of a cult. | |
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| Anyone else read a letter from British YPG fighters on last week's attack? on 10:06 - Mar 26 with 2199 views | BorisOrTrevor |
| Anyone else read a letter from British YPG fighters on last week's attack? on 09:49 - Mar 26 by Guthrum |
People tend to forget that the majority of the victims of Islamist terrorism worldwide have themselves been muslim. |
Irrelevant and a silly statement. |  |
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| Anyone else read a letter from British YPG fighters on last week's attack? on 10:06 - Mar 26 with 2189 views | Ftnfwest |
| Anyone else read a letter from British YPG fighters on last week's attack? on 10:00 - Mar 26 by Guthrum |
Partly what I was referring to. Jihadi Islamism has a tendency to be highly sectarian (most commonly the Wahabi strand of Sunni Islam). To the point where IS appears to fall within the definition of a cult. |
But you're quite right in that it's perpetrators and victims | | | |
| Anyone else read a letter from British YPG fighters on last week's attack? on 10:06 - Mar 26 with 2195 views | Mullet |
| Anyone else read a letter from British YPG fighters on last week's attack? on 10:00 - Mar 26 by Guthrum |
Partly what I was referring to. Jihadi Islamism has a tendency to be highly sectarian (most commonly the Wahabi strand of Sunni Islam). To the point where IS appears to fall within the definition of a cult. |
Listened to a detailed account of the Anabaptist rebels of Munster a couple of months ago. Struck me as a sort of Christian parallel that never got beyond one city. Things like this are new to us, but they must happen repeatedly across civilisation to varying degrees of success. |  |
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| Anyone else read a letter from British YPG fighters on last week's attack? on 10:19 - Mar 26 with 2155 views | Guthrum |
| Anyone else read a letter from British YPG fighters on last week's attack? on 10:06 - Mar 26 by Mullet |
Listened to a detailed account of the Anabaptist rebels of Munster a couple of months ago. Struck me as a sort of Christian parallel that never got beyond one city. Things like this are new to us, but they must happen repeatedly across civilisation to varying degrees of success. |
Indeed. Many times.
The Cathars/Albigensians were far from being a bunch of fluffy hippies oppressed by the French government. And the regimes run by Zwingli in Zurich and Calvin in Geneva were hard-line in the extreme.
For those who don't know, that's Münster in Germany, not the region of Ireland. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%BCnster_Rebellion | |
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| Anyone else read a letter from British YPG fighters on last week's attack? on 10:20 - Mar 26 with 2150 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
| Anyone else read a letter from British YPG fighters on last week's attack? on 10:06 - Mar 26 by BorisOrTrevor |
Irrelevant and a silly statement. |
So is it also irrelevant that the majority of people directly taking on the Wahabi's are Muslims?....maybe you just have a different agenda you want to push ! |  |
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| Anyone else read a letter from British YPG fighters on last week's attack? on 10:21 - Mar 26 with 2134 views | BlueBadger |
| Anyone else read a letter from British YPG fighters on last week's attack? on 10:06 - Mar 26 by BorisOrTrevor |
Irrelevant and a silly statement. |
In the style of maths teachers the world over, I'd be interested to see your working on this. |  |
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| Anyone else read a letter from British YPG fighters on last week's attack? on 10:24 - Mar 26 with 2115 views | BlueBadger |
Mullers, you're assuming that these people can read, here. | |
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| Anyone else read a letter from British YPG fighters on last week's attack? on 10:28 - Mar 26 with 2115 views | BergholtBru |
Thoroughly good article. Many of the muslims who came here post WW2 came to escape the extremities of their religion. Unfortunately it seems to have caught up with them and has not been helped by the liberal, PC brigade who have turned a blind eye to hate preachers, child sex gangs etc, and then branded anyone who wanted to say or do anything about it as racist. This has helped to create the groups referred to in the OP. The OP is rather naive I`m afraid. |  |
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| Anyone else read a letter from British YPG fighters on last week's attack? on 10:31 - Mar 26 with 2098 views | BlueBadger |
| Anyone else read a letter from British YPG fighters on last week's attack? on 10:28 - Mar 26 by BergholtBru |
Thoroughly good article. Many of the muslims who came here post WW2 came to escape the extremities of their religion. Unfortunately it seems to have caught up with them and has not been helped by the liberal, PC brigade who have turned a blind eye to hate preachers, child sex gangs etc, and then branded anyone who wanted to say or do anything about it as racist. This has helped to create the groups referred to in the OP. The OP is rather naive I`m afraid. |
Still, I'm sure that the newspapers and people like you saying things like 'NOW THE MUSLIMS DEMAND SPECIAL TOILETS', 'why is that girl who probably doesn't have training in emergency medicine just walking past that that dead person' and 'they're all nonces you know, that's what Dave down the pub told me it says in the Koran' has helped balance things out and kept many from going down the path of radicalisation. [Post edited 26 Mar 2017 10:32]
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| Anyone else read a letter from British YPG fighters on last week's attack? on 10:34 - Mar 26 with 2086 views | Mullet |
| Anyone else read a letter from British YPG fighters on last week's attack? on 10:28 - Mar 26 by BergholtBru |
Thoroughly good article. Many of the muslims who came here post WW2 came to escape the extremities of their religion. Unfortunately it seems to have caught up with them and has not been helped by the liberal, PC brigade who have turned a blind eye to hate preachers, child sex gangs etc, and then branded anyone who wanted to say or do anything about it as racist. This has helped to create the groups referred to in the OP. The OP is rather naive I`m afraid. |
That's such a cherry picking of incidents from the last few years, and conflating it with just under a century's worth of migration as to be unbelievable. Who turned "a blind eye" to hate preachers exactly?
You're confusing rightly high-profile crimes and a litany of mistakes, inability to read minds and successful detection into an unholy mess there.
"Child sex gangs" is a nasty reshaping of history too. It's like taking the Yewtree findings and calling all white middle aged men in Britian sex offending predators in waiting.
Please don't subvert history with such a silly agenda.
Where were UKIP and the EDL and their predecessors then? Turning up wise after the fact and flinging sh1t one assumes? Where are they fighting the evils of IS exactly? | |
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| Anyone else read a letter from British YPG fighters on last week's attack? on 10:36 - Mar 26 with 2075 views | BlueBadger |
| Anyone else read a letter from British YPG fighters on last week's attack? on 10:34 - Mar 26 by Mullet |
That's such a cherry picking of incidents from the last few years, and conflating it with just under a century's worth of migration as to be unbelievable. Who turned "a blind eye" to hate preachers exactly?
You're confusing rightly high-profile crimes and a litany of mistakes, inability to read minds and successful detection into an unholy mess there.
"Child sex gangs" is a nasty reshaping of history too. It's like taking the Yewtree findings and calling all white middle aged men in Britian sex offending predators in waiting.
Please don't subvert history with such a silly agenda.
Where were UKIP and the EDL and their predecessors then? Turning up wise after the fact and flinging sh1t one assumes? Where are they fighting the evils of IS exactly? |
I liked the bit where he's commented on an article which concludes with the words 'don’t stand with Britain First, the EDL, UKIP or those who talk and think like them. Stand with us' and then spouts exactly the same sort of horsesh1t that BF and the EDl have been doing for the last few years. | |
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| Anyone else read a letter from British YPG fighters on last week's attack? on 10:36 - Mar 26 with 2074 views | BergholtBru |
| Anyone else read a letter from British YPG fighters on last week's attack? on 10:31 - Mar 26 by BlueBadger |
Still, I'm sure that the newspapers and people like you saying things like 'NOW THE MUSLIMS DEMAND SPECIAL TOILETS', 'why is that girl who probably doesn't have training in emergency medicine just walking past that that dead person' and 'they're all nonces you know, that's what Dave down the pub told me it says in the Koran' has helped balance things out and kept many from going down the path of radicalisation. [Post edited 26 Mar 2017 10:32]
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What on earth are you on about. Define "people like you". I don`t think we`ve met!!! | |
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| Anyone else read a letter from British YPG fighters on last week's attack? on 10:42 - Mar 26 with 2041 views | Guthrum |
| Anyone else read a letter from British YPG fighters on last week's attack? on 10:28 - Mar 26 by BergholtBru |
Thoroughly good article. Many of the muslims who came here post WW2 came to escape the extremities of their religion. Unfortunately it seems to have caught up with them and has not been helped by the liberal, PC brigade who have turned a blind eye to hate preachers, child sex gangs etc, and then branded anyone who wanted to say or do anything about it as racist. This has helped to create the groups referred to in the OP. The OP is rather naive I`m afraid. |
Except that modern strict Wahabi Islamism did not exist outside a very restricted area of the Arabian peninsula in 1945.
The intellectual basis for the Jihadi ideology was developed mostly in Cairo during the 1950s and '60s (e.g. Qutb), then disseminated with the backing of arab oil money in the '70s and after (following the discrediting of Nasserite Arab Socialism). The real breeding ground for the leaders of modern hard-line Islam was Afghanistan and Pakistan during the 1980s.
Far more people came to the UK looking for work or escaping political oppression (e.g. Bangladeshis in the run up to the split from Pakistan) than to escape from any strict religious environment. [Post edited 26 Mar 2017 10:43]
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| Anyone else read a letter from British YPG fighters on last week's attack? on 10:48 - Mar 26 with 2016 views | BlueBadger |
| Anyone else read a letter from British YPG fighters on last week's attack? on 10:36 - Mar 26 by BergholtBru |
What on earth are you on about. Define "people like you". I don`t think we`ve met!!! |
The sort of person who says 'you've never met me, you clearly don't don't know what sort of person I am' without any kind of sense of irony.
Hope that helps. | |
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| Anyone else read a letter from British YPG fighters on last week's attack? on 10:52 - Mar 26 with 2011 views | BergholtBru |
| Anyone else read a letter from British YPG fighters on last week's attack? on 10:48 - Mar 26 by BlueBadger |
The sort of person who says 'you've never met me, you clearly don't don't know what sort of person I am' without any kind of sense of irony.
Hope that helps. |
TBH I think you`re a complete tw@t. Hope that helps!! | |
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| Anyone else read a letter from British YPG fighters on last week's attack? on 10:56 - Mar 26 with 1996 views | BlueBadger |
| Anyone else read a letter from British YPG fighters on last week's attack? on 10:52 - Mar 26 by BergholtBru |
TBH I think you`re a complete tw@t. Hope that helps!! |
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| Anyone else read a letter from British YPG fighters on last week's attack? on 13:49 - Mar 26 with 1764 views | FrowsyArmLarry |
The attacker here was a lone nutter. There isnt evidence of him being connected to IS or even that he did the attack because of his religious background, so I fail to see the relevance. |  | | |
| Anyone else read a letter from British YPG fighters on last week's attack? on 14:28 - Mar 26 with 1697 views | Darth_Koont |
| Anyone else read a letter from British YPG fighters on last week's attack? on 13:49 - Mar 26 by FrowsyArmLarry |
The attacker here was a lone nutter. There isnt evidence of him being connected to IS or even that he did the attack because of his religious background, so I fail to see the relevance. |
It's the anti-Muslim sentiment in the wake of the attack. A lone nutter is a lone nutter, but a sizable proportion of society with narrow, racist views is something to be concerned about and speak out against. |  |
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| Anyone else read a letter from British YPG fighters on last week's attack? on 14:35 - Mar 26 with 1679 views | FrowsyArmLarry |
| Anyone else read a letter from British YPG fighters on last week's attack? on 14:28 - Mar 26 by Darth_Koont |
It's the anti-Muslim sentiment in the wake of the attack. A lone nutter is a lone nutter, but a sizable proportion of society with narrow, racist views is something to be concerned about and speak out against. |
Well a sizeable proportion of musims are beardy weirdos that think all white women are whores. A lot of them I know don't think like that but it is an issue for a % and all we can do is accept it. The frustration comes from people who can't accept that and think everyone should integrate | | | |
| Anyone else read a letter from British YPG fighters on last week's attack? on 14:43 - Mar 26 with 1656 views | Darth_Koont |
| Anyone else read a letter from British YPG fighters on last week's attack? on 14:35 - Mar 26 by FrowsyArmLarry |
Well a sizeable proportion of musims are beardy weirdos that think all white women are whores. A lot of them I know don't think like that but it is an issue for a % and all we can do is accept it. The frustration comes from people who can't accept that and think everyone should integrate |
That's whataboutery of the highest order. Sensible people would criticize those views too if that was even part of this debate. | |
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| Anyone else read a letter from British YPG fighters on last week's attack? on 15:20 - Mar 26 with 1589 views | lloydy84 |
| Anyone else read a letter from British YPG fighters on last week's attack? on 14:28 - Mar 26 by Darth_Koont |
It's the anti-Muslim sentiment in the wake of the attack. A lone nutter is a lone nutter, but a sizable proportion of society with narrow, racist views is something to be concerned about and speak out against. |
Agree with what Darth_Koont said, but this quote from their article;
'Don’t stand with Britain First, the EDL, UKIP or those who talk and think like them. Stand with us.'
Is pure ignorance.
I support, or at least supported Ukip, I wouldn't dream of supporting the EDL, Britain First or any other Racist organisation. They're accusing others of ignorance whilst displaying a sizeable amount of ignorance themselves. |  | | |
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