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This is a bit of an eye-opener. Paedophilia in pop. on 16:26 - Mar 27 by Lord_Lucan
Yes but Uncle Ernie is abusing Tommy who has lost his senses, he isn't wanting or asking to be abused.
I always thought that Brown Sugar was really about heroin - but a bit muddled and fuddled.
You could aim this at Jagger though "Don't care that you're 15 years old, I don't want to see no ID"
Elvis, Chuck Berry, Bill Wyman......All have something in common
A mate of mine who was a semi-pro musician in the 1960s has told me that if the furore around DJs and their sexual exploits with the underage had instead been aimed at rock stars of the same vintage, the prisons would be full to overflowing.
This is a bit of an eye-opener. Paedophilia in pop. on 16:30 - Mar 27 by factual_blue
A mate of mine who was a semi-pro musician in the 1960s has told me that if the furore around DJs and their sexual exploits with the underage had instead been aimed at rock stars of the same vintage, the prisons would be full to overflowing.
I can quite believe that, it was only in the 80's that Bill Wyman was going out with 13 year old Many Smith - he must have been 50 then. I also heard that Bill Wymans son later went out with - or even married Mandy Smiths dad.
Elvis was engaged to Pricilla when she was 14. God knows what the Glam rock lot were up to and I don't want even think about Little Richard, Chuck Berry etc
Edit; how did your mate get on?
[Post edited 27 Mar 2017 16:50]
“Hello, I'm your MP. Actually I'm not. I'm your candidate. Gosh.”
Boris Johnson canvassing in Henley, 2005.
This is a bit of an eye-opener. Paedophilia in pop. on 16:48 - Mar 27 by Lord_Lucan
I can quite believe that, it was only in the 80's that Bill Wyman was going out with 13 year old Many Smith - he must have been 50 then. I also heard that Bill Wymans son later went out with - or even married Mandy Smiths dad.
Elvis was engaged to Pricilla when she was 14. God knows what the Glam rock lot were up to and I don't want even think about Little Richard, Chuck Berry etc
Edit; how did your mate get on?
[Post edited 27 Mar 2017 16:50]
He doesn't say too much about it, certainly not in front of his wife! Although he does tell us - repeatedly - about the time Robert Plant bought him a drink.
This is a bit of an eye-opener. Paedophilia in pop. on 17:25 - Mar 27 by Dolly2.0
"Brown sugar, how come you taste so good? Brown sugar, just like A YOUNG GIRL should.”
According to the article, "Brown Sugar is a story about English men having sex with young slave girls".
Agree the Beatles one, whilst dodgy, isn't about paedophilia.
I think originally Jagger was trying to disguise the fact that it was about heroin and then later he said he didn't know what the hell he was on about.
If it were about nailing young black slave girls I doubt Keith Richards would agree to still play it.
“Hello, I'm your MP. Actually I'm not. I'm your candidate. Gosh.”
Boris Johnson canvassing in Henley, 2005.
This is a bit of an eye-opener. Paedophilia in pop. on 17:25 - Mar 27 by Dolly2.0
"Brown sugar, how come you taste so good? Brown sugar, just like A YOUNG GIRL should.”
According to the article, "Brown Sugar is a story about English men having sex with young slave girls".
Agree the Beatles one, whilst dodgy, isn't about paedophilia.
Gold Coast slave ship bound for cotton fields Sold in the market down in New Orleans Scarred old slaver knows he's doin' all right Hear him whip the women just around midnight Brown Sugar, how come you taste so good Brown Sugar, just like a young girl should
Absolutely about Slave masters raping slave girls but nothing about them being underage.
Of course a lot of these songs are stories. Phil Collins Thru These Walls is really creepy
I can see through my windows I can see the girls and the boys I can see through my windows And I can imagine the noise I can see through my windows I can see them playing with toys Oh, I hope it won't end Ooh, if I promise not to touch, just be a friend
But again Phil Collins would write about characters like the preacher in Jesus he knows me or the immigrant in Illegal Alien, not his own experiences.
This is a bit of an eye-opener. Paedophilia in pop. on 17:37 - Mar 27 by Lord_Lucan
I think originally Jagger was trying to disguise the fact that it was about heroin and then later he said he didn't know what the hell he was on about.
If it were about nailing young black slave girls I doubt Keith Richards would agree to still play it.
But Jagger isn't glorifying raping slave girls anymore than he actually thought he was Lucifer when singing Sympathy for the Devil.
Also remember that Merry Clayton was singing back up vocals on Stones songs during that period and of course Jagger was seeing Marsha Hunt whilst recording Brown Sugar so the references are historical rather than a belief.
This is a bit of an eye-opener. Paedophilia in pop. on 17:37 - Mar 27 by Lord_Lucan
I think originally Jagger was trying to disguise the fact that it was about heroin and then later he said he didn't know what the hell he was on about.
If it were about nailing young black slave girls I doubt Keith Richards would agree to still play it.
Well they could've been conveying a story rather than saying they were doing (or approving of) it!
This is a bit of an eye-opener. Paedophilia in pop. on 17:43 - Mar 27 by GlasgowBlue
Gold Coast slave ship bound for cotton fields Sold in the market down in New Orleans Scarred old slaver knows he's doin' all right Hear him whip the women just around midnight Brown Sugar, how come you taste so good Brown Sugar, just like a young girl should
Absolutely about Slave masters raping slave girls but nothing about them being underage.
Of course a lot of these songs are stories. Phil Collins Thru These Walls is really creepy
I can see through my windows I can see the girls and the boys I can see through my windows And I can imagine the noise I can see through my windows I can see them playing with toys Oh, I hope it won't end Ooh, if I promise not to touch, just be a friend
But again Phil Collins would write about characters like the preacher in Jesus he knows me or the immigrant in Illegal Alien, not his own experiences.
Yeah, as I just posted - the Stones are just telling a story. I guess "young girl" doesn't necessarily mean underage.
That Phil Collins one does indeed sound well dodgy!
If Gary Glitter had written these we might be looking at them in a whole new light.
This is a bit of an eye-opener. Paedophilia in pop. on 17:46 - Mar 27 by GlasgowBlue
But Jagger isn't glorifying raping slave girls anymore than he actually thought he was Lucifer when singing Sympathy for the Devil.
Also remember that Merry Clayton was singing back up vocals on Stones songs during that period and of course Jagger was seeing Marsha Hunt whilst recording Brown Sugar so the references are historical rather than a belief.
Admit to copy and pasting
According to the book Up And Down With The Rolling Stones by Tony Sanchez, all the slavery and whipping is a double meaning for the perils of being "mastered" by Brown Heroin, or Brown Sugar
“Hello, I'm your MP. Actually I'm not. I'm your candidate. Gosh.”
Boris Johnson canvassing in Henley, 2005.
This is a bit of an eye-opener. Paedophilia in pop. on 18:27 - Mar 27 by Lord_Lucan
Admit to copy and pasting
According to the book Up And Down With The Rolling Stones by Tony Sanchez, all the slavery and whipping is a double meaning for the perils of being "mastered" by Brown Heroin, or Brown Sugar
Either way it's a cracking tune. It was a golden period for the Stones from Beggars Banquet to Exile on Main Street.
This is a bit of an eye-opener. Paedophilia in pop. on 18:39 - Mar 27 by Lord_Lucan
Of course - but for me it's one of those songs that you start to dismiss a bit because you have heard it so many times - if you know what I mean.
People seem to forget that Bill Wyman was with his subsequent wife, Mandy Smith, when she was 13.
A better example of the different attitudes then is hard to find. It was all over the front pages, but I don't recall him doing time or being hounded by baying mobs.
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