Would McCarthy go back to Sunderland? 12:55 - Apr 16 with 3299 views | bournemouthblue | that would be an interesting one | |
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Would McCarthy go back to Sunderland? on 13:01 - Apr 16 with 3276 views | Coco | Their fans would have a melt down | |
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Would McCarthy go back to Sunderland? on 13:10 - Apr 16 with 3239 views | Bent_double | If you want a team promoted from the Championship, then McCarthys your man. Apparently. | |
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Would McCarthy go back to Sunderland? on 13:18 - Apr 16 with 3210 views | ElderGrizzly | Was having a discussion about this yesterday. Certainly you could see it and maybe he'd take Bart with him 😳 That's the sort of club Bart is likely to end up at if he leaves. Maybe Villa as an option for Bart too | | | |
Would McCarthy go back to Sunderland? on 13:20 - Apr 16 with 3194 views | Lord_Lucan |
Would McCarthy go back to Sunderland? on 13:18 - Apr 16 by ElderGrizzly | Was having a discussion about this yesterday. Certainly you could see it and maybe he'd take Bart with him 😳 That's the sort of club Bart is likely to end up at if he leaves. Maybe Villa as an option for Bart too |
I would sacrifice Bart if it meant a fresh start as manager, although MM would probably take Gherkin. | |
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Would McCarthy go back to Sunderland? on 13:27 - Apr 16 with 3157 views | Bent_double |
Would McCarthy go back to Sunderland? on 13:18 - Apr 16 by ElderGrizzly | Was having a discussion about this yesterday. Certainly you could see it and maybe he'd take Bart with him 😳 That's the sort of club Bart is likely to end up at if he leaves. Maybe Villa as an option for Bart too |
I can see that happening. Pickford gets sold back to a PL club for £10-12m, Sunderland 'do a Newcastle' and start hoovering up all the best players around the Champ, Bart goes for £2-3m. Still, there must be a few good keepers in the Vanarama league we can choose from. | |
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Would McCarthy go back to Sunderland? on 13:34 - Apr 16 with 3129 views | bournemouthblue |
Would McCarthy go back to Sunderland? on 13:27 - Apr 16 by Bent_double | I can see that happening. Pickford gets sold back to a PL club for £10-12m, Sunderland 'do a Newcastle' and start hoovering up all the best players around the Champ, Bart goes for £2-3m. Still, there must be a few good keepers in the Vanarama league we can choose from. |
It's hardly worth selling Bart for that What does £2 - 3 million get you nowadays? Pickford could go for anywhere between £10 - 20 million in today's market Bart should be valued around £8 million imho, would he be happy moving to another Championship side again next season with no guarantee of promotion necessarily? | |
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there is absolutely no way Sunderland would recruit McCarthy on 13:36 - Apr 16 with 3120 views | unstableblue | His methods, system and ethos would have suited the championship 5 years ago, but football has moved on and left him behind. Look at the managers who will make up the top six - Mick has no relationship to their styles | |
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there is absolutely no way Sunderland would recruit McCarthy on 13:58 - Apr 16 with 3070 views | bournemouthblue |
there is absolutely no way Sunderland would recruit McCarthy on 13:36 - Apr 16 by unstableblue | His methods, system and ethos would have suited the championship 5 years ago, but football has moved on and left him behind. Look at the managers who will make up the top six - Mick has no relationship to their styles |
Although Rowett who would have probably finished there uses a very similar approach? | |
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there is absolutely no way Sunderland would recruit McCarthy on 14:00 - Apr 16 with 3062 views | Mullet |
there is absolutely no way Sunderland would recruit McCarthy on 13:58 - Apr 16 by bournemouthblue | Although Rowett who would have probably finished there uses a very similar approach? |
Have a read of Harry's piece and the comments about Rafa...... It's almost like Mick is a decent manager without the backing of the owner and now some of the fanbase to make it work. | |
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there is absolutely no way Sunderland would recruit McCarthy on 14:08 - Apr 16 with 3029 views | bournemouthblue |
there is absolutely no way Sunderland would recruit McCarthy on 14:00 - Apr 16 by Mullet | Have a read of Harry's piece and the comments about Rafa...... It's almost like Mick is a decent manager without the backing of the owner and now some of the fanbase to make it work. |
Rafa probably is a bit of a luxury McCarthy His sides are often very defensive and organised, playing through a key focal point as MM sides tend to Where MM falls down for me is his lack of flexibility or willing to gamble. That's what puts him behind the likes of Pullis and Bruce who tend to be similarly pragmatic. | |
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there is absolutely no way Sunderland would recruit McCarthy on 14:10 - Apr 16 with 3025 views | Mullet |
there is absolutely no way Sunderland would recruit McCarthy on 14:08 - Apr 16 by bournemouthblue | Rafa probably is a bit of a luxury McCarthy His sides are often very defensive and organised, playing through a key focal point as MM sides tend to Where MM falls down for me is his lack of flexibility or willing to gamble. That's what puts him behind the likes of Pullis and Bruce who tend to be similarly pragmatic. |
Really? We've had 4 or 5 formations alone this season, Tabb converted to an inside winger more akin to something from the 50's a range of midfield options forced and unforced. If anything I'd say the old "442 Mick" myth has been thoroughly beaten to a pulp here. | |
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there is absolutely no way Sunderland would recruit McCarthy on 14:11 - Apr 16 with 3011 views | Coco |
there is absolutely no way Sunderland would recruit McCarthy on 14:00 - Apr 16 by Mullet | Have a read of Harry's piece and the comments about Rafa...... It's almost like Mick is a decent manager without the backing of the owner and now some of the fanbase to make it work. |
Good god. | |
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Would McCarthy go back to Sunderland? on 14:17 - Apr 16 with 2994 views | ElderGrizzly |
Would McCarthy go back to Sunderland? on 13:34 - Apr 16 by bournemouthblue | It's hardly worth selling Bart for that What does £2 - 3 million get you nowadays? Pickford could go for anywhere between £10 - 20 million in today's market Bart should be valued around £8 million imho, would he be happy moving to another Championship side again next season with no guarantee of promotion necessarily? |
I don't think he's good enough to be first choice for most of the PL sides, so he's either joining a promotion chasing side like Newcastle this season, or a newly promoted/bottom 6 side in the PL. A bit like Murphy, triple your wages and get a chance in the PL. Don't think he'd leave to sit on the bench at one of the better sides | | | |
there is absolutely no way Sunderland would recruit McCarthy on 14:18 - Apr 16 with 2981 views | ElderGrizzly |
there is absolutely no way Sunderland would recruit McCarthy on 14:08 - Apr 16 by bournemouthblue | Rafa probably is a bit of a luxury McCarthy His sides are often very defensive and organised, playing through a key focal point as MM sides tend to Where MM falls down for me is his lack of flexibility or willing to gamble. That's what puts him behind the likes of Pullis and Bruce who tend to be similarly pragmatic. |
Rafa is on £5m a year too. Certainly a luxury! | | | |
Would McCarthy go back to Sunderland? on 14:56 - Apr 16 with 2894 views | ClausThomsen |
Would McCarthy go back to Sunderland? on 13:18 - Apr 16 by ElderGrizzly | Was having a discussion about this yesterday. Certainly you could see it and maybe he'd take Bart with him 😳 That's the sort of club Bart is likely to end up at if he leaves. Maybe Villa as an option for Bart too |
If we sell Bart we'd be asking for trouble. Why he'd follow the man who left him out of the side for 6 months would be curious as well. The player seems happy here, if the owner's so hard-up that he has to rape the club of players every off-season then maybe he should sell up and sod off. If we start next season with McCarthy playing Gerken then we're going down. Bart has saved MM from absolute embarassment this season. Gerken isn't capable of the same heroics. | | | |
Would McCarthy go back to Sunderland? on 15:05 - Apr 16 with 2874 views | ElderGrizzly |
Would McCarthy go back to Sunderland? on 14:56 - Apr 16 by ClausThomsen | If we sell Bart we'd be asking for trouble. Why he'd follow the man who left him out of the side for 6 months would be curious as well. The player seems happy here, if the owner's so hard-up that he has to rape the club of players every off-season then maybe he should sell up and sod off. If we start next season with McCarthy playing Gerken then we're going down. Bart has saved MM from absolute embarassment this season. Gerken isn't capable of the same heroics. |
Rape? Really? Ffs.... And he's turned down multiple bids most years here for players like Murphy, McGoldrick, Bishop etc Every player is only sold if Mick authorises it too. [Post edited 16 Apr 2017 15:07]
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Would McCarthy go back to Sunderland? on 15:07 - Apr 16 with 2865 views | ClausThomsen |
Would McCarthy go back to Sunderland? on 15:05 - Apr 16 by ElderGrizzly | Rape? Really? Ffs.... And he's turned down multiple bids most years here for players like Murphy, McGoldrick, Bishop etc Every player is only sold if Mick authorises it too. [Post edited 16 Apr 2017 15:07]
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Strip then. | | | |
Would McCarthy go back to Sunderland? on 15:09 - Apr 16 with 2851 views | ClausThomsen |
Would McCarthy go back to Sunderland? on 15:05 - Apr 16 by ElderGrizzly | Rape? Really? Ffs.... And he's turned down multiple bids most years here for players like Murphy, McGoldrick, Bishop etc Every player is only sold if Mick authorises it too. [Post edited 16 Apr 2017 15:07]
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That's another reason McCarthy should go - he'll definitely sanction the Bialkowski sale with Gerken Banks waiting in the wings. | | | |
there is absolutely no way Sunderland would recruit McCarthy on 15:58 - Apr 16 with 2767 views | bournemouthblue |
there is absolutely no way Sunderland would recruit McCarthy on 14:10 - Apr 16 by Mullet | Really? We've had 4 or 5 formations alone this season, Tabb converted to an inside winger more akin to something from the 50's a range of midfield options forced and unforced. If anything I'd say the old "442 Mick" myth has been thoroughly beaten to a pulp here. |
He's played around with formations and certainly got the last game spot on How many times has he done that though? He rarely makes a sub before the 70th minute and rarely seems to roll the dice, favouring the not lose approach Our record when chasing games is appalling, we tend to hold a lead alright but coming back and winning games is a rarity MM may well have learnt a lot from this season, I still don't think he has the balance right, when does he ever gamble, going for broke or getting his side to go for the jugular? His main approach has been to match the opposition first and foremost, that includes sides who are down the bottom of the league | |
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