| Smart meters 07:41 - Apr 20 with 2724 views | Reuser_is_God |
Anyone got one? Are they worth it? |  |
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| Smart meters on 07:44 - Apr 20 with 2279 views | DBaldy |
Doesn't't cost anything extra so doesn't hurt to have one.
Biggest advantage is you can keep a better track of how much gas and electricity you've used over certain time periods. |  | | |
| Smart meters on 07:51 - Apr 20 with 2257 views | WD19 |
Jonathan Douglas has been wearing one this season. Has managed to cut his energy consumption by 65%. |  | | |
| Smart meters on 07:56 - Apr 20 with 2235 views | blue_oyster |
Yes. I've no idea what the point of them is, apart from that I can now be hacked by the Chinese. |  |
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| Smart meters on 07:58 - Apr 20 with 2228 views | noggin |
I've got one. Saves me sending in a meter reading every month but apart from that, I don't know what the advantages are. |  |
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| Smart meters on 08:21 - Apr 20 with 2183 views | taximan |
| Smart meters on 07:58 - Apr 20 by noggin |
I've got one. Saves me sending in a meter reading every month but apart from that, I don't know what the advantages are. |
don't see the point either
get a bill every quarter
pay it
the bill is more in the winter
the bill is less in the summer
that sums it up, all without a smart meter installed | | | |
| Smart meters on 08:22 - Apr 20 with 2181 views | homer_123 |
I believe we all get one eventually, we don't have a choice. However, the real scandal is that Smart meters are not interchangeable with suppliers. In short, if you change your supplier you may have to change your smart meter.
Short term idiot thinking. |  |
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| Smart meters on 08:24 - Apr 20 with 2166 views | DanTheMan |
| Smart meters on 08:21 - Apr 20 by taximan |
don't see the point either
get a bill every quarter
pay it
the bill is more in the winter
the bill is less in the summer
that sums it up, all without a smart meter installed |
They are more accurate and help people who don't understand what it is they is causing certain parts of their bill to be higher than they think they should be.
Sorry, what I really mean is does anyone else hate $NEW_THING!??!1 |  |
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| Smart meters on 08:27 - Apr 20 with 2161 views | noggin |
| Smart meters on 08:22 - Apr 20 by homer_123 |
I believe we all get one eventually, we don't have a choice. However, the real scandal is that Smart meters are not interchangeable with suppliers. In short, if you change your supplier you may have to change your smart meter.
Short term idiot thinking. |
That is ridiculous if true. It's not the case over here. The same electrician has just fitted the meters to every flat in my block and we can choose our own supplier. | |
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| Smart meters on 08:29 - Apr 20 with 2159 views | Steve_M |
| Smart meters on 08:22 - Apr 20 by homer_123 |
I believe we all get one eventually, we don't have a choice. However, the real scandal is that Smart meters are not interchangeable with suppliers. In short, if you change your supplier you may have to change your smart meter.
Short term idiot thinking. |
That I believe is a result of Ofgem's inability to get past a textbook view of competition theory and making the supplier's pay for each one they install with no way to reclaim that should the customer move.
I've not followed recent developments too closely but there were more efficient ways of implementing smart metering that wouldn't penalise a supplier should a customer change.
As to the benefits, in theory they should include:
- allowing the customer to monitor energy usage;
- allowing more dynamic pricing rather than a single domestic rate (industrial customers for example have had six rates for years but they are half-hourly metered);
- savings on meter reading costs by transmitting data automatically;
- and, in the long run, allowing some form of dynamic demand to reduce usage at times of system stress. |  |
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| Smart meters on 08:29 - Apr 20 with 2155 views | No9 |
I had an interesting experience with one - my energy supplier told me they wanted to fit one FoC so I agreed.
Nearly two years later they phoned me to ask If I had any records of what electricity I had consumed.
No I replied, my wife deals with that
Is she available to speak to us
No she's out
When she returns can she please call us on thsi number ----
It turned out that when they fitted the meter they forgot to set it up properly
They agreed they could not charge us for any electric not metered abut asled for a payment of £100 to cover the near two years
NOt a bad deal | | | |
| Smart meters on 08:39 - Apr 20 with 2136 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
They're smart enough to stop you sticking a wire in to stop them from spinning ! |  |
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| Smart meters on 08:51 - Apr 20 with 2101 views | No9 |
| Smart meters on 08:39 - Apr 20 by BanksterDebtSlave |
They're smart enough to stop you sticking a wire in to stop them from spinning ! |
An American at Bentwaters got caught of running his backwards - long story | | | |
| Smart meters on 09:05 - Apr 20 with 2069 views | SWGF |
| Smart meters on 08:39 - Apr 20 by BanksterDebtSlave |
They're smart enough to stop you sticking a wire in to stop them from spinning ! |
Are they smart enough to stop you syphoning your gas from Mr Rottweiler, next door? |  |
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| Smart meters on 09:57 - Apr 20 with 1999 views | Ryorry |
| Smart meters on 08:24 - Apr 20 by DanTheMan |
They are more accurate and help people who don't understand what it is they is causing certain parts of their bill to be higher than they think they should be.
Sorry, what I really mean is does anyone else hate $NEW_THING!??!1 |
A couple of years ago I purchased independently for about £20, an electronic monitor which was simple to set up and which gives me all the constant info about consumption, cost etc that I need.
Btw - in a signal blackspot, eg round where I live & radiating out for a large distance (radius of at least 12 miles), they would be completely useless, as no data could be transmitted! Which if you look at the alleged data protection issues, I'm not unhappy about! |  |
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| Smart meters on 10:01 - Apr 20 with 1990 views | DanTheMan |
| Smart meters on 09:57 - Apr 20 by Ryorry |
A couple of years ago I purchased independently for about £20, an electronic monitor which was simple to set up and which gives me all the constant info about consumption, cost etc that I need.
Btw - in a signal blackspot, eg round where I live & radiating out for a large distance (radius of at least 12 miles), they would be completely useless, as no data could be transmitted! Which if you look at the alleged data protection issues, I'm not unhappy about! |
I've just bought a house I intend on pretty much fully automating, so a smart meter, whilst nice, won't be a necessity for me as I'll have enough sensors and things to keep an eye on it.
That's pretty nice for £20 though. | |
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| Smart meters on 12:04 - Apr 20 with 1894 views | BtreeBlueBlood |
| Smart meters on 07:58 - Apr 20 by noggin |
I've got one. Saves me sending in a meter reading every month but apart from that, I don't know what the advantages are. |
Im sure this is the reason why the energy costs have just shot up again!!
Wow not inter changeable!!
after 10 years we could have a big collection of not so smart meters |  | | |
| Smart meters on 12:08 - Apr 20 with 1883 views | solemio |
| Smart meters on 08:27 - Apr 20 by noggin |
That is ridiculous if true. It's not the case over here. The same electrician has just fitted the meters to every flat in my block and we can choose our own supplier. |
It may be different in Norway, but I wonder whether in UK if you live in a block of flats you have to wait for all the meters to be done together, rather than individual leaseholders applying to have their own one done. | | | |
| Smart meters on 12:27 - Apr 20 with 1857 views | noggin |
| Smart meters on 12:08 - Apr 20 by solemio |
It may be different in Norway, but I wonder whether in UK if you live in a block of flats you have to wait for all the meters to be done together, rather than individual leaseholders applying to have their own one done. |
They have all been done together but the government is footing the bill. Every property must have a smart meter by next year. [Post edited 20 Apr 2017 12:34]
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| Smart meters on 12:31 - Apr 20 with 1852 views | Clapham_Junction |
| Smart meters on 08:51 - Apr 20 by No9 |
An American at Bentwaters got caught of running his backwards - long story |
A friend had solar panels fitted to his roof, but for some reason was left with an old clock meter, which runs backwards when electricity is exported to the grid (modern digital meters won't run backwards). Over the summer the panels produced far more electricity than the house consumed and when he was asked to give a meter reading in the autumn, he realised the figure was lower than the last reading. He said he was going to wait till the end of winter when the meter may have moved slightly ahead of the previous reading before responding.
I have also got one of the DIY electricity monitors (free from NPower a few years ago) and it's been very useful in identifying wasteful electronics. I discovered the satellite box uses as much power on standby as it does when on and the washing machine uses about 20-30w even when switched off, so both are now turned off at the plug. |  | | |
| Smart meters on 12:33 - Apr 20 with 1840 views | Clapham_Junction |
| Smart meters on 12:08 - Apr 20 by solemio |
It may be different in Norway, but I wonder whether in UK if you live in a block of flats you have to wait for all the meters to be done together, rather than individual leaseholders applying to have their own one done. |
As far as I'm aware, they're done individually by the energy companies as you have them fitted by whoever your supplier is. | | | |
| Smart meters on 12:52 - Apr 20 with 1805 views | Lord_Lucan |
I can never be arsed to read the meter and send the reading in so my bills are estimated for months on end so I end up with a large debit or credit at the end of the year.
I am with Utility Warehouse and they have just offered me free smart meters and we are having them installed next month free of charge - I'm not sure if you would usually have to pay for them.
Actually UW are very good, last year they replaced all my lightbulbs - and I have bloody loads - to energy saving ones free of charge. These aren't those stupid things that take ages to warm up, they are instant, brighter and power saving. Also, if one blows they send me a new one free of charge.
A TWTDer is your point of call for UW. Paul Wash info@lowerbillsplease.com |  |
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| Smart meters on 12:53 - Apr 20 with 1795 views | Reuser_is_God |
| Smart meters on 12:52 - Apr 20 by Lord_Lucan |
I can never be arsed to read the meter and send the reading in so my bills are estimated for months on end so I end up with a large debit or credit at the end of the year.
I am with Utility Warehouse and they have just offered me free smart meters and we are having them installed next month free of charge - I'm not sure if you would usually have to pay for them.
Actually UW are very good, last year they replaced all my lightbulbs - and I have bloody loads - to energy saving ones free of charge. These aren't those stupid things that take ages to warm up, they are instant, brighter and power saving. Also, if one blows they send me a new one free of charge.
A TWTDer is your point of call for UW. Paul Wash info@lowerbillsplease.com |
I'm already with UW & have had the same email as you. | |
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| Smart meters on 13:03 - Apr 20 with 1771 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Smart meters on 12:53 - Apr 20 by Reuser_is_God |
I'm already with UW & have had the same email as you. |
It's a no brainer then isn't it? | |
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| Smart meters on 13:04 - Apr 20 with 1766 views | homer_123 |
| Smart meters on 12:52 - Apr 20 by Lord_Lucan |
I can never be arsed to read the meter and send the reading in so my bills are estimated for months on end so I end up with a large debit or credit at the end of the year.
I am with Utility Warehouse and they have just offered me free smart meters and we are having them installed next month free of charge - I'm not sure if you would usually have to pay for them.
Actually UW are very good, last year they replaced all my lightbulbs - and I have bloody loads - to energy saving ones free of charge. These aren't those stupid things that take ages to warm up, they are instant, brighter and power saving. Also, if one blows they send me a new one free of charge.
A TWTDer is your point of call for UW. Paul Wash info@lowerbillsplease.com |
Whilst Smart Meters are free to have installed - we all pay for them as the Govt. agreed with all utility companies to allow them to increase their bills to the consumer to cover the cost of purchase and install.
So, you pay for it through higher bills. It's not free. | |
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