| Blimey 17:46 - Apr 24 with 3968 views | GlasgowBlue |
Even Wales is going towards the Tories
Should Jezza stand down now to give Labour half a chance? [Post edited 24 Apr 2017 17:46]
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| Blimey on 07:10 - Apr 25 with 1205 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Blimey on 01:00 - Apr 25 by Ryorry |
If they get trounced he would surely have to step down? Anything else would be a kick in the teeth to the notion that he's a principled man. |
I'll say it again. He will go nowhere if they lose.
If he steps down the Lsbour leadership rules insist a candidate must receive 25% of the PLP to nominate them. The PLP will never put forward another far left candidate.
The far left finally have the leadership of the Labour Party. Do you think they will let it go willingly.
Currently John McDonnell is trying to get through a rule change that will reduce the threshold needed from the PLP. They are also trying to take over the executive so momentum can deselect moderate Labour MP's and replace them with their own people.
Trust me when I say that the election is not the battle that preoccupies Corbyn and co. It's the battle for control of the Labour Party. | |
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| Blimey on 12:25 - Apr 25 with 1158 views | mutters |
| Blimey on 07:10 - Apr 25 by GlasgowBlue |
I'll say it again. He will go nowhere if they lose.
If he steps down the Lsbour leadership rules insist a candidate must receive 25% of the PLP to nominate them. The PLP will never put forward another far left candidate.
The far left finally have the leadership of the Labour Party. Do you think they will let it go willingly.
Currently John McDonnell is trying to get through a rule change that will reduce the threshold needed from the PLP. They are also trying to take over the executive so momentum can deselect moderate Labour MP's and replace them with their own people.
Trust me when I say that the election is not the battle that preoccupies Corbyn and co. It's the battle for control of the Labour Party. |
I can see a split coming then.
The left will destroy the party, but in their eyes they are returning it to its natural position. Very interesting times ahead.
Who said politics is boring? |  |
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| Blimey on 12:31 - Apr 25 with 1150 views | Sarge |
| Blimey on 21:26 - Apr 24 by BLUEGOLD |
I'm all right Jack and screw the rest.
Cut poor peoples benefits and give them to the higher earners, that's fair.
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The increase in personal allowance benefits the lowest earners the most. Meant that when I was earning £14k a year, I pretty much got it tax free.
It's the one, and so far only thing I can think of, that I'm grateful to the tories for. |  | | |
| Blimey on 12:39 - Apr 25 with 1138 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Blimey on 17:56 - Apr 24 by The_Romford_Blue |
Only 13% for the Welsh party in Wales is pretty sh1t as well ain't it? |
They can never do a SNP as the language gets in the way. Plaid have traditionally been thought of as the Welsh speaker's party rather than the party for the whole of Wales. So yeah, it's pretty poor from them. They need to break down those barriers and haven't. Plus the fact that Leanne Wood isn't the strongest leader -certainly doesn't help. If they haven't been able to make gains over the last 5-6 years they never will.
UKIP had made good ground here, especially from LD and Labour. Now it looks their voters are going over to the Tories, presumably because of Brexit.
Nowt que3r as folk. |  |
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| Blimey on 12:39 - Apr 25 with 1139 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Blimey on 12:25 - Apr 25 by mutters |
I can see a split coming then.
The left will destroy the party, but in their eyes they are returning it to its natural position. Very interesting times ahead.
Who said politics is boring? |
They'll definitely be a split but how much is the brand name worth in electoral terms.
The moderates and soft left MP's like Hilary Benn, Chuka Umunna, Liz Kendal, Yvette Cooper etc may well form a new centre left party but it wont' be called Labour.
Meanwhile Jezza and his band of swivel eyed loons will keep the brand name.
It will be like Ronnie Wood keeping the name the Rolling Stones whilst Jagger, Wyman, Richards and Watts performing under a diferent name. | |
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| Blimey on 18:25 - Apr 25 with 1108 views | BLUEGOLD |
| Blimey on 12:31 - Apr 25 by Sarge |
The increase in personal allowance benefits the lowest earners the most. Meant that when I was earning £14k a year, I pretty much got it tax free.
It's the one, and so far only thing I can think of, that I'm grateful to the tories for. |
Income tax should start at £20,000 for all.
The higher earners should pay more tax.
The spending on goods and services will be a huge boost to the economy | | | |
| Blimey on 18:32 - Apr 25 with 1103 views | bazza |
| Blimey on 18:25 - Apr 25 by BLUEGOLD |
Income tax should start at £20,000 for all.
The higher earners should pay more tax.
The spending on goods and services will be a huge boost to the economy |
So 40% after £20,000??? Basically what your saying is you want people who take on more work and stress to not be any better off than low Income earners... |  | | |
| Blimey on 18:42 - Apr 25 with 1098 views | Sarge |
| Blimey on 18:32 - Apr 25 by bazza |
So 40% after £20,000??? Basically what your saying is you want people who take on more work and stress to not be any better off than low Income earners... |
I don't think he meant the higher rate. | | | |
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| Blimey on 19:11 - Apr 25 with 1080 views | BLUEGOLD |
| Blimey on 18:32 - Apr 25 by bazza |
So 40% after £20,000??? Basically what your saying is you want people who take on more work and stress to not be any better off than low Income earners... |
Obviously not 40% after £20,000
How about
20% from £20,000 to £40,000
40% from £40,000 to £75,000
50% from £75,000
That shouldn't hurt too much and allows a proper pay rise for lower earners and provide £10 per hour as a minimum wage. | | | |
| Blimey on 19:21 - Apr 25 with 1075 views | bazza |
| Blimey on 19:11 - Apr 25 by BLUEGOLD |
Obviously not 40% after £20,000
How about
20% from £20,000 to £40,000
40% from £40,000 to £75,000
50% from £75,000
That shouldn't hurt too much and allows a proper pay rise for lower earners and provide £10 per hour as a minimum wage. |
I'm now voting for blue gold. !! | | | |
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