Homophobic Tory MP drops out of election on 19:46 - Apr 28 with 1758 views | ElderGrizzly | If only the same firmness was applied to anti-semitism within the Labour party too. We've led the way to show Jeremy how... | | | |
Homophobic Tory MP drops out of election on 19:53 - Apr 28 with 1740 views | Ftnfwest | Pressure on farron then | | | |
Homophobic Tory MP drops out of election on 19:57 - Apr 28 with 1722 views | J2BLUE |
Homophobic Tory MP drops out of election on 19:53 - Apr 28 by Ftnfwest | Pressure on farron then |
I am no fan of Farron but he is completely different. He has his personal beliefs but he doesn't try and force them on everyone else by trying to vote based on those beliefs. I actually respect Farron's stance, whilst completely disagreeing with his view that gay sex is wrong. He has now said he doesn't believe it's wrong but he clearly does as it has taken so long to answer. It's refreshing that he has his beliefs but isn't trying to force them on everyone else. We need to respect his right to hold different beliefs as well however much we disagree. | |
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Homophobic Tory MP drops out of election on 19:57 - Apr 28 with 1723 views | ElderGrizzly |
Homophobic Tory MP drops out of election on 19:53 - Apr 28 by Ftnfwest | Pressure on farron then |
Is there? He's voted for equality and said homosexuality isn't a sin multiple times. What more does he need to do? | | | |
Homophobic Tory MP drops out of election on 20:01 - Apr 28 with 1706 views | Ftnfwest |
Homophobic Tory MP drops out of election on 19:57 - Apr 28 by ElderGrizzly | Is there? He's voted for equality and said homosexuality isn't a sin multiple times. What more does he need to do? |
I know what he said but do you really think there won't be more pressure on him? | | | |
Homophobic Tory MP drops out of election on 20:03 - Apr 28 with 1699 views | ElderGrizzly |
Homophobic Tory MP drops out of election on 19:57 - Apr 28 by J2BLUE | I am no fan of Farron but he is completely different. He has his personal beliefs but he doesn't try and force them on everyone else by trying to vote based on those beliefs. I actually respect Farron's stance, whilst completely disagreeing with his view that gay sex is wrong. He has now said he doesn't believe it's wrong but he clearly does as it has taken so long to answer. It's refreshing that he has his beliefs but isn't trying to force them on everyone else. We need to respect his right to hold different beliefs as well however much we disagree. |
How do you know "he clearly does"? He quite rightly doesn't believe it is anyone's business given his voting as an MP has always supported it. You think eggs should be cooked a certain way, that is abhorrent to most human beings but we haven't ostracised you for it. Yet.... | | | |
Homophobic Tory MP drops out of election on 20:06 - Apr 28 with 1697 views | ElderGrizzly |
Homophobic Tory MP drops out of election on 20:01 - Apr 28 by Ftnfwest | I know what he said but do you really think there won't be more pressure on him? |
From certain elements of the media there will be, because they have very little else to chip away at. It's a cheap shot. I'd like to see them question a Muslim MP or a Catholic MP on elements of their faith in the same way, if religion appears to be an issue for them. | | | |
Homophobic Tory MP drops out of election on 20:08 - Apr 28 with 1678 views | J2BLUE |
Homophobic Tory MP drops out of election on 20:03 - Apr 28 by ElderGrizzly | How do you know "he clearly does"? He quite rightly doesn't believe it is anyone's business given his voting as an MP has always supported it. You think eggs should be cooked a certain way, that is abhorrent to most human beings but we haven't ostracised you for it. Yet.... |
Use some common sense. He has been getting a pasting for it and he still didn't say no. He wasn't doing that to make a point about how it's not anyone else's business. He didn't want to be truthful. | |
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Homophobic Tory MP drops out of election on 20:10 - Apr 28 with 1670 views | Ftnfwest |
Homophobic Tory MP drops out of election on 20:06 - Apr 28 by ElderGrizzly | From certain elements of the media there will be, because they have very little else to chip away at. It's a cheap shot. I'd like to see them question a Muslim MP or a Catholic MP on elements of their faith in the same way, if religion appears to be an issue for them. |
Quite agree. Can equally see the media totally destroying may for instance if she implied/held the same views. 'Tory press' or not | | | |
Homophobic Tory MP drops out of election on 20:11 - Apr 28 with 1664 views | The_Romford_Blue |
Homophobic Tory MP drops out of election on 19:46 - Apr 28 by ElderGrizzly | If only the same firmness was applied to anti-semitism within the Labour party too. We've led the way to show Jeremy how... |
'We'?? I thought you were a lib dem MER? | |
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Homophobic Tory MP drops out of election on 20:20 - Apr 28 with 1627 views | blue_oyster | Well, he was asked. | |
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Homophobic Tory MP drops out of election on 20:21 - Apr 28 with 1612 views | factual_blue | Your first two words are of course synonyms. | |
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Homophobic Tory MP drops out of election on 20:38 - Apr 28 with 1580 views | sparks | Its unfortunate that many MPs including certain leaders may have sympathy for that view, regardless of what they say in public | |
| The presence of those seeking the truth is infinitely to be preferred to the presence of those who think they've found it.
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Homophobic Tory MP drops out of election on 20:40 - Apr 28 with 1572 views | ElderGrizzly |
Homophobic Tory MP drops out of election on 20:08 - Apr 28 by J2BLUE | Use some common sense. He has been getting a pasting for it and he still didn't say no. He wasn't doing that to make a point about how it's not anyone else's business. He didn't want to be truthful. |
I have used common sense. That's the point. He didn't feel he had to surrender to the constant sniping/questioning on principle, as his privately held views are just that, but it was eventually a distraction so he relented. How he acts as a politician in bringing equality to millions is important. What his or his religion's view on it is irrelevant. It shows he can separate the two which is more important to me. | | | |
Homophobic Tory MP drops out of election on 20:40 - Apr 28 with 1570 views | sparks |
Homophobic Tory MP drops out of election on 19:57 - Apr 28 by J2BLUE | I am no fan of Farron but he is completely different. He has his personal beliefs but he doesn't try and force them on everyone else by trying to vote based on those beliefs. I actually respect Farron's stance, whilst completely disagreeing with his view that gay sex is wrong. He has now said he doesn't believe it's wrong but he clearly does as it has taken so long to answer. It's refreshing that he has his beliefs but isn't trying to force them on everyone else. We need to respect his right to hold different beliefs as well however much we disagree. |
We need to recognise the difference between respecting the right to hold a belief and respecting the belief itself. Someone who holds that belief is not someone I want involved in leading the country. | |
| The presence of those seeking the truth is infinitely to be preferred to the presence of those who think they've found it.
(Sir Terry Pratchett) | Poll: | Is Fred drunk this morning? |
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Homophobic Tory MP drops out of election on 20:42 - Apr 28 with 1564 views | ElderGrizzly |
Homophobic Tory MP drops out of election on 20:40 - Apr 28 by sparks | We need to recognise the difference between respecting the right to hold a belief and respecting the belief itself. Someone who holds that belief is not someone I want involved in leading the country. |
Most of the cabinet, potentially including the PM, is in trouble then. | | | |
Homophobic Tory MP drops out of election on 20:48 - Apr 28 with 1545 views | Archer4721 |
Homophobic Tory MP drops out of election on 20:10 - Apr 28 by Ftnfwest | Quite agree. Can equally see the media totally destroying may for instance if she implied/held the same views. 'Tory press' or not |
She does. Look at her voting record on such issues | | | |
Homophobic Tory MP drops out of election on 20:52 - Apr 28 with 1532 views | sparks |
Homophobic Tory MP drops out of election on 20:48 - Apr 28 by Archer4721 | She does. Look at her voting record on such issues |
There is an extent to which i think we should be more forgiving about views that are some years old- society has changed a lot and views with it. Not convinced the 2010 onwards stuff is relevant to the issue raised by the OP | |
| The presence of those seeking the truth is infinitely to be preferred to the presence of those who think they've found it.
(Sir Terry Pratchett) | Poll: | Is Fred drunk this morning? |
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Homophobic Tory MP drops out of election on 20:56 - Apr 28 with 1514 views | WD19 |
Homophobic Tory MP drops out of election on 20:52 - Apr 28 by sparks | There is an extent to which i think we should be more forgiving about views that are some years old- society has changed a lot and views with it. Not convinced the 2010 onwards stuff is relevant to the issue raised by the OP |
I am thinking she must have been in sabbatical 2011-14!? | | | |
Homophobic Tory MP drops out of election on 20:58 - Apr 28 with 1507 views | Archer4721 |
Homophobic Tory MP drops out of election on 20:52 - Apr 28 by sparks | There is an extent to which i think we should be more forgiving about views that are some years old- society has changed a lot and views with it. Not convinced the 2010 onwards stuff is relevant to the issue raised by the OP |
Well that's very gallant of you. Shame you can't apply that same view to Jeremy Corbyn's 30-40 year old past. | | | |
Homophobic Tory MP drops out of election on 21:00 - Apr 28 with 1493 views | GlasgowBlue |
Homophobic Tory MP drops out of election on 19:46 - Apr 28 by ElderGrizzly | If only the same firmness was applied to anti-semitism within the Labour party too. We've led the way to show Jeremy how... |
Farron needed a push from Eric Pickles first though didn't he. Before Pickles intervention Farron was saying it wasn't up to the leadership to intervene. | |
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Homophobic Tory MP drops out of election on 21:37 - Apr 28 with 1450 views | Archer4721 |
Homophobic Tory MP drops out of election on 20:59 - Apr 28 by GlasgowBlue | "states it is impossible to build a cohesive society where the is any immigration" That is a complete and utter fabrication isn't it? She never said that did she? [Post edited 28 Apr 2017 20:59]
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Home Secretary Theresa May tells her party's conference that high levels of immigration make it impossible to have a "cohesive society". http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-34459284/may-immigration-harms-social-c | | | |
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