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Labour-Tory gap now single figures in latest YouGov poll on 23:07 - May 21 by GlasgowBlue
I'd say that the polls are entirely accurate and reflect a week where Labour promised the moon on a stick without offering any explanation how they would fund it and the Tories honestly announced a series of unpopular measures.
At the moment Labour are polling where they were three weeks before the election in 2015 whereas the Tories are roughly 11 points ahead of where they were in 2015.
You are basically saying look how wonderful it is that Ipswich only lost 9-0 against Manchester United when everyone was saying it would be 10-0.
And weren't you blubbing earlier that I mentioned you in a thread you weren't involved in?
Hypocritastic..
Polls are entirely accurate? Wow. No need for an election apparently. We can forget statistics and just take the views of a thousand or so. That'll save some money for badger culling!
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Labour-Tory gap now single figures in latest YouGov poll on 23:14 - May 21 with 2883 views
Labour-Tory gap now single figures in latest YouGov poll on 23:06 - May 21 by HARRY10
Or you are just being silly... due to being upset I should imagine
If you care to point out where I said Labour would win, never mind clearly, then you might have a point. However as I did state halving a 20 point lead does suggest something is going awry.
The momentum is now against the Tories so if it continues then it will still be hard to predict how they will finish. The current pools were they to be right across the board would give a Tory majority of 10.
Not the victory expected, nor the majority to carry some of their more unpopular policies.
Yep, I'm the one being silly...
Highlighting crass stupidity since sometime around 2010
Labour-Tory gap now single figures in latest YouGov poll on 23:08 - May 21 by GlasgowBlue
Where did I mention internal labour polling you doughnut?
Here 22:07 - May 19 by GlasgowBlue
"He has been hovering around the 28-31% mark for a few weeks but he's just launched a popularist manifesto and I would imagine internal polling is showing him around the 32-34% mark which would reduce the Tories majority to about 70. "
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Labour-Tory gap now single figures in latest YouGov poll on 23:25 - May 21 with 2849 views
Labour-Tory gap now single figures in latest YouGov poll on 23:17 - May 21 by Dolly2.0
This is from a few days ago, and you've already posted it on here. Why are you posting it again?
My link is to today's polls.
It's from yesterday evening, looking beyond the national poll numbers to what is happening in key swing areas and other traditionalLabour heartlands where the election will be won or lost.
The Independent poll was carried out over the last few days too and if you watch the small video clip on your link, when combined with other recent polls gives the Tories a 118 majority, with Labour on just 184 seats.
Corbyn needs to carry or convert a lot of very close seats. If he wins 35% of the vote, but like Hillary Clinton, has that vote concentrated in the wrong places, then it will sadly still result in a big Tory win.
It's about the local performance, not the national polls
[Post edited 21 May 2017 23:37]
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Labour-Tory gap now single figures in latest YouGov poll on 23:42 - May 21 with 2812 views
Labour-Tory gap now single figures in latest YouGov poll on 23:33 - May 21 by ElderGrizzly
It's from yesterday evening, looking beyond the national poll numbers to what is happening in key swing areas and other traditionalLabour heartlands where the election will be won or lost.
The Independent poll was carried out over the last few days too and if you watch the small video clip on your link, when combined with other recent polls gives the Tories a 118 majority, with Labour on just 184 seats.
Corbyn needs to carry or convert a lot of very close seats. If he wins 35% of the vote, but like Hillary Clinton, has that vote concentrated in the wrong places, then it will sadly still result in a big Tory win.
It's about the local performance, not the national polls
[Post edited 21 May 2017 23:37]
I have to disagree.
Hillary Clinton case was the number of votes cast being greater than Trumps.
At the moment these polls talking about the numbers suggested to vote for each party - not the overall numbers.
It is actually the Tories who often lose out where the votes just pile up in southern constiuencies that are larger in voter number than, say, northern Labour seats.
What is claer at this stage is not all UKIP votes are going to the Tories, unless a large number of Tories are switching as well.
As I said, all to play for, whereas a fortnight back it was as good as done and dusted.
A hung Parliament or a small Tory majority is now looking on the cards, unless the lead is halved again, no small feat given it would only mean a narrowing of 5 points, which is only a two and a half point swing.
Labour-Tory gap now single figures in latest YouGov poll on 23:42 - May 21 by HARRY10
I have to disagree.
Hillary Clinton case was the number of votes cast being greater than Trumps.
At the moment these polls talking about the numbers suggested to vote for each party - not the overall numbers.
It is actually the Tories who often lose out where the votes just pile up in southern constiuencies that are larger in voter number than, say, northern Labour seats.
What is claer at this stage is not all UKIP votes are going to the Tories, unless a large number of Tories are switching as well.
As I said, all to play for, whereas a fortnight back it was as good as done and dusted.
A hung Parliament or a small Tory majority is now looking on the cards, unless the lead is halved again, no small feat given it would only mean a narrowing of 5 points, which is only a two and a half point swing.
I appreciate Hillary's situation, but was using it to show getting a large number of votes or higher than expected % of the vote doesn't equal a victory or lesser defeat if those votes are in the wrong place.
The polls are talking about national numbers for each party? And as the very detailed analysis shows, it ignores what is happening at local level. Whether the numbers are from 4 days ago or 2 days ago is somewhat irrelevant, as the logic holds true for all parties.
I agree Tories do see large constituencies with lots of votes, but Labour can be hurt by much smaller swings, which again the analysis i linked to goes on to explain in a lot of detail.
I hope we don't have a hung parliament, as we'll just get more uncertainty and another election within 18 months. What we do need is a real opposition to the Tories. And i'm more hopeful Labour will do that now.
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Labour-Tory gap now single figures in latest YouGov poll on 00:13 - May 22 with 2785 views
Labour-Tory gap now single figures in latest YouGov poll on 23:50 - May 21 by ElderGrizzly
I appreciate Hillary's situation, but was using it to show getting a large number of votes or higher than expected % of the vote doesn't equal a victory or lesser defeat if those votes are in the wrong place.
The polls are talking about national numbers for each party? And as the very detailed analysis shows, it ignores what is happening at local level. Whether the numbers are from 4 days ago or 2 days ago is somewhat irrelevant, as the logic holds true for all parties.
I agree Tories do see large constituencies with lots of votes, but Labour can be hurt by much smaller swings, which again the analysis i linked to goes on to explain in a lot of detail.
I hope we don't have a hung parliament, as we'll just get more uncertainty and another election within 18 months. What we do need is a real opposition to the Tories. And i'm more hopeful Labour will do that now.
If anything local swings will be against the Tories given the number of tactical voters.
Unless the social care policy is dramatically changed it could be very damaging to the vote numbers. Those affected, both the houseowners and those expecting a large legacy will want to see this policy blocked. they will not simply sit at home.
Despite nonsense elsewhere on this thread ,the lead was narrowing before the Tory manifesto launch and it will be interesting to see what effect it has had by the end of the week.
The tide does seem to have turned with the Tories now being seen as the 'baddies'. Tories have stumbled on TV interviews. There does seem a complete lack of understanding of some of these policies and the figures and consequences involved.
it is coming across as if the election was called on the basis of 'grab it and run' with little real thought behind it bar the belief that they could not lose.
Anything but a very increased majority will be seen as a defeat. It could even see May standing down, rather than go through a long and bitter in fight that she might well lose. Against this background they will be trying to negotiate Brexit ?
All falling apart it would seem.
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Labour-Tory gap now single figures in latest YouGov poll on 01:25 - May 22 with 2744 views
Labour-Tory gap now single figures in latest YouGov poll on 23:24 - May 21 by HARRY10
Here 22:07 - May 19 by GlasgowBlue
"He has been hovering around the 28-31% mark for a few weeks but he's just launched a popularist manifesto and I would imagine internal polling is showing him around the 32-34% mark which would reduce the Tories majority to about 70. "
Yeah I'll ask the question again. Where did I mention Labour internal polling?
Labour-Tory gap now single figures in latest YouGov poll on 22:01 - May 21 by HARRY10
The comments suggest the dat was based on Labour still only around the previous 2015 election results (30.4).
They don't take into account tactical voting either, which has been, and will be anti Tory. More so given the number of single issue voters who will vote in response to what I posted above.
The huge number of younger voters also suggest that the Tories will face a harder task.
It is still all up for grabs and the Tory manifesto does show that one 'slip' can have a big effect, so there's plenty of time for the others to mess up as well.
But for Labour voters it looks one helluva lot better than a fortnight agao. Will that still be the case in 7 days time ?
And at last he is beginning to show a bit of passion
Jezza looked strong and stable as the warm up act for The Libertines.
It's Time for Heroes, not a Campaign of Hate!
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Labour-Tory gap now single figures in latest YouGov poll on 08:26 - May 22 with 2692 views
Labour-Tory gap now single figures in latest YouGov poll on 23:07 - May 21 by GlasgowBlue
I'd say that the polls are entirely accurate and reflect a week where Labour promised the moon on a stick without offering any explanation how they would fund it and the Tories honestly announced a series of unpopular measures.
At the moment Labour are polling where they were three weeks before the election in 2015 whereas the Tories are roughly 11 points ahead of where they were in 2015.
You are basically saying look how wonderful it is that Ipswich only lost 9-0 against Manchester United when everyone was saying it would be 10-0.
And weren't you blubbing earlier that I mentioned you in a thread you weren't involved in?
Labour-Tory gap now single figures in latest YouGov poll on 08:26 - May 22 by Herbivore
Glassers has become a full blown parody of himself.
This website has become a gathering place for twenty something left wing millennials who don't know their backside from their elbow, for an illustration as to what unhinged socialism will do to this country, look no further than Venezuela.
Seriously, Jeremy Cor-Bin, Dianne Abbott et al? I wouldn't trust them to babysit let alone run the country. As for the SNP, a vitriolic little party defined by a massive chip on its shoulder. Couldn't care less about England and they should be nowhere near exercising power over the UK.
I foresee a Conservative majority of 50.
BOT
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Labour-Tory gap now single figures in latest YouGov poll on 08:51 - May 22 with 2654 views
Labour-Tory gap now single figures in latest YouGov poll on 08:45 - May 22 by BorisOrTrevor
This website has become a gathering place for twenty something left wing millennials who don't know their backside from their elbow, for an illustration as to what unhinged socialism will do to this country, look no further than Venezuela.
Seriously, Jeremy Cor-Bin, Dianne Abbott et al? I wouldn't trust them to babysit let alone run the country. As for the SNP, a vitriolic little party defined by a massive chip on its shoulder. Couldn't care less about England and they should be nowhere near exercising power over the UK.
I foresee a Conservative majority of 50.
You look at Venezuela. I'm looking at our closest neighbours and especially the Nordic countries.
Are you really so oblivious to what's going on in the world around you?
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Labour-Tory gap now single figures in latest YouGov poll on 09:01 - May 22 with 2632 views
Labour-Tory gap now single figures in latest YouGov poll on 08:45 - May 22 by BorisOrTrevor
This website has become a gathering place for twenty something left wing millennials who don't know their backside from their elbow, for an illustration as to what unhinged socialism will do to this country, look no further than Venezuela.
Seriously, Jeremy Cor-Bin, Dianne Abbott et al? I wouldn't trust them to babysit let alone run the country. As for the SNP, a vitriolic little party defined by a massive chip on its shoulder. Couldn't care less about England and they should be nowhere near exercising power over the UK.
I foresee a Conservative majority of 50.
Cor-Bin.
I see what you've done there. Very clever. Sets you apart from the twenty something left wing millennial you seem keen to look down on.
Labour-Tory gap now single figures in latest YouGov poll on 08:51 - May 22 by Darth_Koont
You look at Venezuela. I'm looking at our closest neighbours and especially the Nordic countries.
Are you really so oblivious to what's going on in the world around you?
You beat me to it D_K - our Scandinavian neighbours have closed the gap in income and wealth inequality and are now amongst the most physically and mentally healthy countries on the planet. Us and the US are at the other end of the scale.
It is all about opinions though and, when respectfully presented, I always try to listen to what others have to say.
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Labour-Tory gap now single figures in latest YouGov poll on 09:03 - May 22 with 2625 views
Labour-Tory gap now single figures in latest YouGov poll on 23:14 - May 21 by Gromheort
Polls are entirely accurate? Wow. No need for an election apparently. We can forget statistics and just take the views of a thousand or so. That'll save some money for badger culling!
You don't understand sampling and statistics do you!?
There are books on it too.
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Labour-Tory gap now single figures in latest YouGov poll on 09:07 - May 22 with 2612 views
Labour-Tory gap now single figures in latest YouGov poll on 09:26 - May 22 by WD19
Did you not see the inverted commas you tedious 'bellwhiff'?
Sorry, still laughing! A perfectly accurate poll with margin of error? Lovely!
We have to assume that the questioning is not leading; we have to also assume that the sample is random. Even then we don't have certainty over the margin of error. That is a term referring to likelihood. In short, it is cretinous to talk about a perfectly accurate poll
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