Could Theresa May Have Blown It? 00:51 - May 26 with 17504 views | Kievthegreat | Lead is down to 5% in yougov poll (only a single poll ATM and nothing is certain about the effect the Manchester bombing had), but interestingly you can see how the change in attitudes to polices since Labour and Conservatives have released their manifestos. Worth reading through all the yougov tweets and links to get all the breakdowns
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Could Theresa May Have Blown It? on 00:55 - May 26 with 8181 views | HARRY10 | Or simple go to a normal media outlet and read either manifesto Not so trendy, rather like reading a train timetable rather than poking at your mobile for half an hour | | | |
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Could Theresa May Have Blown It? on 11:09 - May 26 with 8088 views | Darth_Koont | Doubt it but it's a good lesson for the future. Seems like the public are tired of style over substance. And the empty promises of a better society that just don't tally with the mean and petty cost-cutting that is going on at the same time. I certainly feel more confident in our politics and media. Although, in reality, that's just going from zero confidence to seeing a glimmer of hope. | |
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Could Theresa May Have Blown It? on 11:09 - May 26 with 8084 views | CaptainObvious | opinion polls - lol | |
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Could Theresa May Have Blown It? on 12:26 - May 26 with 8012 views | BlueBrittania | The Tories got to within 5 points in 97 at this point in the campaign, Labour then went on to win a stonking majority, it doesn't mean anything yet. As an aside, some of the polls have been throwing up really weird crossbreaks, they have all changed sampling techniques from 2015 to try and correct that error, it could just be that hasn't worked. | | | |
Could Theresa May Have Blown It? on 14:29 - May 26 with 7893 views | TheBlueBarca |
Could Theresa May Have Blown It? on 12:26 - May 26 by BlueBrittania | The Tories got to within 5 points in 97 at this point in the campaign, Labour then went on to win a stonking majority, it doesn't mean anything yet. As an aside, some of the polls have been throwing up really weird crossbreaks, they have all changed sampling techniques from 2015 to try and correct that error, it could just be that hasn't worked. |
I thought we had a bad choice in 2015. The choice is even worse now. I have voted by post but the reality is that we have to choose between a soulless careerist and a hard-line backbencher with neither fit to govern a local primary school, let alone an entire nation. | |
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Could Theresa May Have Blown It? on 14:47 - May 26 with 7861 views | baxterbasics | I semi expected the polls to tighten as the day looms. It's a lesson to the Tories in how not to launch a manifesto. They got complacent and decided they could get away with any old crap. Still I expect this is as good as it will get for Corbyn. Bear in mind historically polls tend to exaggerate the Labour vote. | |
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Could Theresa May Have Blown It? on 14:51 - May 26 with 7834 views | No9 |
Could Theresa May Have Blown It? on 14:47 - May 26 by baxterbasics | I semi expected the polls to tighten as the day looms. It's a lesson to the Tories in how not to launch a manifesto. They got complacent and decided they could get away with any old crap. Still I expect this is as good as it will get for Corbyn. Bear in mind historically polls tend to exaggerate the Labour vote. |
"It's a lesson to the Tories in how not to launch a manifesto." Nothing to do with the consistent lowering of wages and living standards then? Nothing to do with robbing pen sioers to fund overseas governments via privatised industries? Nothing to do with killing the NHS? Nothing to do with robbing people of the opportunity for a decent living? Nothing to do with ensuring children from poor backgrounds can't afford to go to Uni? Just some plonker can't write a manifesto = WRONG, they knew waht they wee doing but just thought people were too thick to notice - the worm may be turing | | | | Login to get fewer ads
Could Theresa May Have Blown It? on 15:03 - May 26 with 7828 views | HARRY10 |
Could Theresa May Have Blown It? on 12:26 - May 26 by BlueBrittania | The Tories got to within 5 points in 97 at this point in the campaign, Labour then went on to win a stonking majority, it doesn't mean anything yet. As an aside, some of the polls have been throwing up really weird crossbreaks, they have all changed sampling techniques from 2015 to try and correct that error, it could just be that hasn't worked. |
That's not quite the whole picture The 5 point gap was ONE rogue poll on 21st April (10 days before vote) which was at complete odds with the other polls on the days before and after. The average continued with a Labour lead similar to what the Tories had a couple of weeks back - day after day Verification can be had here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_United_Kingdom_general_ele | | | |
Could Theresa May Have Blown It? on 15:22 - May 26 with 7802 views | baxterbasics |
Could Theresa May Have Blown It? on 14:51 - May 26 by No9 | "It's a lesson to the Tories in how not to launch a manifesto." Nothing to do with the consistent lowering of wages and living standards then? Nothing to do with robbing pen sioers to fund overseas governments via privatised industries? Nothing to do with killing the NHS? Nothing to do with robbing people of the opportunity for a decent living? Nothing to do with ensuring children from poor backgrounds can't afford to go to Uni? Just some plonker can't write a manifesto = WRONG, they knew waht they wee doing but just thought people were too thick to notice - the worm may be turing |
Errm no not really. If I generously assume all the things you have listed are undoubtable facts, then they were the case this whole time that Cons have been streets ahead in the polls. You have to ask what has happened differently to produce that result. It may be an outlier as others suggest but I think there is a genuine narrowing of the gap as a result of the manifesto. | |
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Could Theresa May Have Blown It? on 18:01 - May 26 with 7711 views | The_Last_Baron | The Tory campaign has been a shambles, all I can hear from May is strong and stable, a terrible soundbite at the best of times. Their manifesto was terrible, alienating the older generation and saying they'll stay in the ECHR for the duration of the next parliament term, alienating Brexiteers in the process. She believed she would get a huge majority on the back of Brexit but there is more to running a country than that. Corbyn announced several popular policies - he wouldn't be able to fund them for sure but they still sounded good to many. May still win but with a much smaller majority than she imagined. Only because Labour have Corbyn and when it comes to it most people would not trust him to deliver a pizza. If Labour had a solid, common sense leader for this election I believe they would have a fair chance of winning. As it is they have a rabble at the top of the party - Corby, McDonnell and Abbott would be terrible for the nation. | |
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Could Theresa May Have Blown It? on 18:30 - May 26 with 7690 views | TractorWood |
Could Theresa May Have Blown It? on 18:01 - May 26 by The_Last_Baron | The Tory campaign has been a shambles, all I can hear from May is strong and stable, a terrible soundbite at the best of times. Their manifesto was terrible, alienating the older generation and saying they'll stay in the ECHR for the duration of the next parliament term, alienating Brexiteers in the process. She believed she would get a huge majority on the back of Brexit but there is more to running a country than that. Corbyn announced several popular policies - he wouldn't be able to fund them for sure but they still sounded good to many. May still win but with a much smaller majority than she imagined. Only because Labour have Corbyn and when it comes to it most people would not trust him to deliver a pizza. If Labour had a solid, common sense leader for this election I believe they would have a fair chance of winning. As it is they have a rabble at the top of the party - Corby, McDonnell and Abbott would be terrible for the nation. |
Broadly agree. I like the idea of Corbyn but him actually in government wouldn't work. NHS seems the hot button issue but until people acknowledge the tragic truth that it's economically unsustainable with an aging population, we'll never get anywhere. As Rommie posted the other day it's brilliant but miraculous it has lasted as long as it has. 5 biggest employer in the world and its budget as a country's GDP would make it the 57th biggest in the world. | |
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Could Theresa May Have Blown It? on 18:36 - May 26 with 7668 views | jas0999 | I personally think the Tories will win the election. As a so called floating voter, I still can't find too many reasons to vote for Corbyns Labour. Having said that I rate them higher now than under Ed Milliband. I doubt it will be a landslide victory. Small increase in Tory majority I would guess. | | | |
Could Theresa May Have Blown It? on 18:41 - May 26 with 7656 views | jaykay | lets see, May called the election because in her words.the country was united but parliament wasn't over brexit. which to my mind is a load of bollox. so what will happened if she wins but not by that greater majority. will she carry on or go | |
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Could Theresa May Have Blown It? on 18:59 - May 26 with 7634 views | The_Last_Baron |
Could Theresa May Have Blown It? on 18:41 - May 26 by jaykay | lets see, May called the election because in her words.the country was united but parliament wasn't over brexit. which to my mind is a load of bollox. so what will happened if she wins but not by that greater majority. will she carry on or go |
If she wins she'll carry on of course. However I believe she won't stand for election again, she'll be PM for no more than six years. By the time Labour sort themselves out the Tories will need a stronger leader than May. | |
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Could Theresa May Have Blown It? on 01:16 - May 27 with 7373 views | HARRY10 |
Could Theresa May Have Blown It? on 18:30 - May 26 by TractorWood | Broadly agree. I like the idea of Corbyn but him actually in government wouldn't work. NHS seems the hot button issue but until people acknowledge the tragic truth that it's economically unsustainable with an aging population, we'll never get anywhere. As Rommie posted the other day it's brilliant but miraculous it has lasted as long as it has. 5 biggest employer in the world and its budget as a country's GDP would make it the 57th biggest in the world. |
Yes, it's not if any other country has a universal health care system, or an aging population is it ? What it is suffering from now is cuts that are causing stagnation and blocking up the system However those who can pay should pay - and is is the funding that we need to look at NOT the model itself. | | | |
Could Theresa May Have Blown It? on 07:09 - May 27 with 7284 views | TractorWood |
Could Theresa May Have Blown It? on 01:16 - May 27 by HARRY10 | Yes, it's not if any other country has a universal health care system, or an aging population is it ? What it is suffering from now is cuts that are causing stagnation and blocking up the system However those who can pay should pay - and is is the funding that we need to look at NOT the model itself. |
High earners would probably say they already pay enough income tax, why should they have to contribute more? Just playing devil's advocate. Japan has an ageing population and they have a system where the treatment costs are split between the government and the patient. Patient pays between 10-30% depending on their income etc and the government pays the balance. The harsh question I cite here is, is the service provided by the NHS consistently good enough to warrant a material contribution from the patient? I simply don't know enough about the health care system, but if people were to pay for their surgeries, waiting lists need reducing and roughly a quarter of the NHS' annual budget is earmarked for settling medical negligence. This feels too high but haven't heard anyone question this. | |
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Could Theresa May Have Blown It? on 08:33 - May 27 with 7208 views | Herbivore |
Could Theresa May Have Blown It? on 07:09 - May 27 by TractorWood | High earners would probably say they already pay enough income tax, why should they have to contribute more? Just playing devil's advocate. Japan has an ageing population and they have a system where the treatment costs are split between the government and the patient. Patient pays between 10-30% depending on their income etc and the government pays the balance. The harsh question I cite here is, is the service provided by the NHS consistently good enough to warrant a material contribution from the patient? I simply don't know enough about the health care system, but if people were to pay for their surgeries, waiting lists need reducing and roughly a quarter of the NHS' annual budget is earmarked for settling medical negligence. This feels too high but haven't heard anyone question this. |
That figure relating to the budget and medical negligence isn't remotely accurate. The story about it misrepresented the fact, it treated a lump sum being set aside to cover claims over a very long period as though it was part of an annual budget. In reality, as the story notes, less than 1% of the NHS's annual budget goes on settling medical negligence claims. When the story your using provides you with all the info you need to fact check it yourself you really should be doing better than this. | |
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Could Theresa May Have Blown It? on 09:38 - May 27 with 7174 views | Pinewoodblue | https://www.theguardian.com/politics/ng-interactive/2017/may/08/general-election Best place to look if you are looking for trends, helps to weed out any rogue Poll, seems this probably wasn't a rogue poll. Could come down to who manages to get their supporters to cast their vote.Two key groups of voters, the Young and in many cases first voter, and those who two years ago were Ukipers. Can see May adopting fear tactics. " Do you really want this man as the leader of our Country? No of course you don't vote conservative" | |
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Could Theresa May Have Blown It? on 09:47 - May 27 with 7154 views | Darth_Koont |
Could Theresa May Have Blown It? on 09:38 - May 27 by Pinewoodblue | https://www.theguardian.com/politics/ng-interactive/2017/may/08/general-election Best place to look if you are looking for trends, helps to weed out any rogue Poll, seems this probably wasn't a rogue poll. Could come down to who manages to get their supporters to cast their vote.Two key groups of voters, the Young and in many cases first voter, and those who two years ago were Ukipers. Can see May adopting fear tactics. " Do you really want this man as the leader of our Country? No of course you don't vote conservative" |
No doubt they'll try that tactic although how long before people put two and two together about her own inadequacy and incompetence? Isn't "strong and stable" more of a sarcastic description nowadays? The safest option is to carry on appealing to her new-found UKIPpers. They've given her a tidy buffer — and they'd vote for a monkey waving a Union Jack. [Post edited 27 May 2017 9:49]
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Could Theresa May Have Blown It? on 10:37 - May 27 with 7120 views | TractorWood |
Could Theresa May Have Blown It? on 08:33 - May 27 by Herbivore | That figure relating to the budget and medical negligence isn't remotely accurate. The story about it misrepresented the fact, it treated a lump sum being set aside to cover claims over a very long period as though it was part of an annual budget. In reality, as the story notes, less than 1% of the NHS's annual budget goes on settling medical negligence claims. When the story your using provides you with all the info you need to fact check it yourself you really should be doing better than this. |
So the remaining £20+ billion is for mistakes it has made that hasn't been budgeted for previously or mistakes it will make? How reassuring. | |
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Could Theresa May Have Blown It? on 10:44 - May 27 with 7107 views | feelingblue |
Could Theresa May Have Blown It? on 09:47 - May 27 by Darth_Koont | No doubt they'll try that tactic although how long before people put two and two together about her own inadequacy and incompetence? Isn't "strong and stable" more of a sarcastic description nowadays? The safest option is to carry on appealing to her new-found UKIPpers. They've given her a tidy buffer — and they'd vote for a monkey waving a Union Jack. [Post edited 27 May 2017 9:49]
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Monkeys are not British are they? They'd probably hang the monkey | | | |
Could Theresa May Have Blown It? on 11:45 - May 27 with 7059 views | Herbivore |
Could Theresa May Have Blown It? on 10:37 - May 27 by TractorWood | So the remaining £20+ billion is for mistakes it has made that hasn't been budgeted for previously or mistakes it will make? How reassuring. |
They're the main provider of medical care in the UK by a massive distance, medical negligence claims are big business for some law firms. That figure shouldn't be that surprising. I see you've skirted around rather than retracted your misleading claim, I wonder why. | |
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Could Theresa May Have Blown It? on 16:01 - May 27 with 6948 views | Texaco73 | I think a hung parliament would be the best outcome. | | | |
Could Theresa May Have Blown It? on 16:06 - May 27 with 6940 views | bluejake78 | May is home and hosed.She has no one to oppose. | | | |
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