| Keiffer Moore 12:01 - Jan 16 with 2802 views | ThatMuhrenCross |
I'll start by saying good luck to the guy, but there's one thing I don't get...
He's scored exactly the same amount of goals this season as a certain James Alabi in the National League. Remember him anyone? Alabi is 22, compared to Moore's 24. Both are physical, number 9 strikers.
Alabi supposedly wasn't good enough for us. What's the difference? |  |
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| Keiffer Moore on 12:08 - Jan 16 with 2720 views | J2BLUE |
Webster. Clark. |  |
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| Keiffer Moore on 12:09 - Jan 16 with 2701 views | itfcjoe |
Probably not a lot when it comes down to it - both were/are punts, both unlikely to work out. |  |
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| Keiffer Moore on 12:10 - Jan 16 with 2686 views | Basuco |
I would guess that this is why the contract is for 18 months rather than 2 or 3 years, he has been given this time to prove that he can step up and progress in football. Recognising that a lower league player can step up is not an exact science, some work out and some do not even with a vast experience in this. For every Shane Long or Jon Walters there are many who do not make the grade. |  | | |
| Keiffer Moore on 12:12 - Jan 16 with 2666 views | hoppy |
Alabi has done it since being with us, not beforehand. Moore has shown that he knows where the goal is before we signed him, so obviously MM has thought him worth bringing in. Had it been the other way round, I'm sure he may well have thought Alabi was worth a punt.
Hope that helps a bit? |  |
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| Keiffer Moore on 12:12 - Jan 16 with 2661 views | Guthrum |
Possibly Moore's experience at Championship level (10 starts, 10 off the bench, 4 goals).
Otherwise you'd have to ask the people who assessed them. |  |
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| Keiffer Moore on 12:29 - Jan 16 with 2505 views | monty_radio |
| Keiffer Moore on 12:12 - Jan 16 by Guthrum |
Possibly Moore's experience at Championship level (10 starts, 10 off the bench, 4 goals).
Otherwise you'd have to ask the people who assessed them. |
I'm sure that's right. Perhaps someone even recalled that shot on the turn that hit the post for Yeovil against us, that someone posted the other day.
Accepting what others have said though, that he is a punt, Tony Currie, as asst manager at Dagenham, believes that there are many out there. Some of these seem already to be touted and priced up. This particular punt would be quiet enough on that bush telegraph to escape the attention of most clubs prepared to pay bigger money than us, even for their punts.
So is it a sign of how low down the food-chain we are being forced to feed, or, as Guthrum has offered as a possibility, was our assessment of him just cuter than others? |  |
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| Keiffer Moore on 12:33 - Jan 16 with 2449 views | soupytwist |
| Keiffer Moore on 12:29 - Jan 16 by monty_radio |
I'm sure that's right. Perhaps someone even recalled that shot on the turn that hit the post for Yeovil against us, that someone posted the other day.
Accepting what others have said though, that he is a punt, Tony Currie, as asst manager at Dagenham, believes that there are many out there. Some of these seem already to be touted and priced up. This particular punt would be quiet enough on that bush telegraph to escape the attention of most clubs prepared to pay bigger money than us, even for their punts.
So is it a sign of how low down the food-chain we are being forced to feed, or, as Guthrum has offered as a possibility, was our assessment of him just cuter than others? |
McCarthy specifically mentioned that shot when asked about Moore in his post match interview on Saturday.
Didn't do much to dispel the feeling that the first time we see anyone we end up signing is when they play against us in some capacity. |  | | |
| Keiffer Moore on 12:36 - Jan 16 with 2397 views | Superfrans |
It's incredibly difficult to know how players will develop, and it may be that Alabi has improved more than expected when he was with us.
But, more relevantly, Alabi maybe a different player to Moore - 6 ft 1 vs 6 ft 5 for a start. He has also played 38 games since leaving us, which will inevitably have improved him as a player. Moore has over 130 games under his belt too - maybe he's more game-smart than Alabi is?
There are lots of possible reasons. |  |
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| Keiffer Moore on 12:38 - Jan 16 with 2370 views | hoppy |
| Keiffer Moore on 12:10 - Jan 16 by Basuco |
I would guess that this is why the contract is for 18 months rather than 2 or 3 years, he has been given this time to prove that he can step up and progress in football. Recognising that a lower league player can step up is not an exact science, some work out and some do not even with a vast experience in this. For every Shane Long or Jon Walters there are many who do not make the grade. |
Similarly, JET has just extended his loan to Gillingham from QPR to the end of the season at the end of last week. He's Gillingham's top scorer with 11 goals this season. He got 24 goals in 82 appearances for Bristol City, and 3 in 12 appearances for QPR... Should we have kept him, just in case he had scored more for us and it had worked out better than he did? | |
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| Keiffer Moore on 12:39 - Jan 16 with 2356 views | Superfrans |
| Keiffer Moore on 12:29 - Jan 16 by monty_radio |
I'm sure that's right. Perhaps someone even recalled that shot on the turn that hit the post for Yeovil against us, that someone posted the other day.
Accepting what others have said though, that he is a punt, Tony Currie, as asst manager at Dagenham, believes that there are many out there. Some of these seem already to be touted and priced up. This particular punt would be quiet enough on that bush telegraph to escape the attention of most clubs prepared to pay bigger money than us, even for their punts.
So is it a sign of how low down the food-chain we are being forced to feed, or, as Guthrum has offered as a possibility, was our assessment of him just cuter than others? |
I wouldn't take it as a sign of anything. Arsenal signed a kid from Hednesford for £40,000 a few weeks back. All clubs will be scouting around the divisions to see what's out there. | |
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| Keiffer Moore on 12:42 - Jan 16 with 2308 views | itfcjoe |
| Keiffer Moore on 12:39 - Jan 16 by Superfrans |
I wouldn't take it as a sign of anything. Arsenal signed a kid from Hednesford for £40,000 a few weeks back. All clubs will be scouting around the divisions to see what's out there. |
And the vast majority of these players won't work out - including Moore most likely.
For me the signing isn't really anything - nothing to get excited about, nothing to get upset about.....if he comes in and makes any impact that is great and more than we can expect. Fingers crossed he does well - but for the moment it is an extra body in the squad and nothing more. | |
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| Keiffer Moore on 12:43 - Jan 16 with 2292 views | Guthrum |
| Keiffer Moore on 12:33 - Jan 16 by soupytwist |
McCarthy specifically mentioned that shot when asked about Moore in his post match interview on Saturday.
Didn't do much to dispel the feeling that the first time we see anyone we end up signing is when they play against us in some capacity. |
It's the best chance a Manager gets to watch other teams' players in action live, given he's virtually always busy on a Saturday afternoon or Tuesday evening. | |
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| Keiffer Moore on 12:54 - Jan 16 with 2208 views | Superfrans |
| Keiffer Moore on 12:42 - Jan 16 by itfcjoe |
And the vast majority of these players won't work out - including Moore most likely.
For me the signing isn't really anything - nothing to get excited about, nothing to get upset about.....if he comes in and makes any impact that is great and more than we can expect. Fingers crossed he does well - but for the moment it is an extra body in the squad and nothing more. |
Yup. The balance of probability is that Moore won't be the next Jamie Vardy. If there probability was higher, we'd have signed dozens of these guys for peanuts, on the basis that one of them was bound to be a valuable asset to sell on.
And your second paragraph - agree 100%. | |
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| Keiffer Moore on 12:56 - Jan 16 with 2187 views | itfcjoe |
| Keiffer Moore on 12:54 - Jan 16 by Superfrans |
Yup. The balance of probability is that Moore won't be the next Jamie Vardy. If there probability was higher, we'd have signed dozens of these guys for peanuts, on the basis that one of them was bound to be a valuable asset to sell on.
And your second paragraph - agree 100%. |
And if he was likely to be the next Vardy he'd be costing the £1m that he did rather than the £10k that Moore is.....! | |
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| Keiffer Moore on 12:57 - Jan 16 with 2172 views | Superfrans |
| Keiffer Moore on 12:43 - Jan 16 by Guthrum |
It's the best chance a Manager gets to watch other teams' players in action live, given he's virtually always busy on a Saturday afternoon or Tuesday evening. |
Also Mick knows our defenders and their ability better than any other defenders in the league, because he sees them every day. If we sees a player giving them a difficult time, he's better informed about what they can cope with.
But it's also possible that he raised the shot against us because it would be a frame of reference most Town fans would know, given that many of us would also have been at the game. | |
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| Keiffer Moore on 13:02 - Jan 16 with 2147 views | SWGF |
| Keiffer Moore on 12:42 - Jan 16 by itfcjoe |
And the vast majority of these players won't work out - including Moore most likely.
For me the signing isn't really anything - nothing to get excited about, nothing to get upset about.....if he comes in and makes any impact that is great and more than we can expect. Fingers crossed he does well - but for the moment it is an extra body in the squad and nothing more. |
He's done enough to warrant his own personalised blog... |  |
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| Keiffer Moore on 13:05 - Jan 16 with 2106 views | Steve_M |
| Keiffer Moore on 12:38 - Jan 16 by hoppy |
Similarly, JET has just extended his loan to Gillingham from QPR to the end of the season at the end of last week. He's Gillingham's top scorer with 11 goals this season. He got 24 goals in 82 appearances for Bristol City, and 3 in 12 appearances for QPR... Should we have kept him, just in case he had scored more for us and it had worked out better than he did? |
WED. |  |
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| Keiffer Moore on 13:08 - Jan 16 with 2074 views | Guthrum |
| Keiffer Moore on 12:56 - Jan 16 by itfcjoe |
And if he was likely to be the next Vardy he'd be costing the £1m that he did rather than the £10k that Moore is.....! |
Tho it can be difficult to tell how a player will perform if you put him in a higher-quality team, on better pitches, in front of larger crowds. The style and physicality can change at different levels of football (e.g. fitness and agility can become more important than pure strength - there's a reason Akinfenwa, with his fantastic goalscoring record, has never played higher than League One). [Post edited 16 Jan 2017 13:09]
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| Keiffer Moore on 13:08 - Jan 16 with 2058 views | hoppy |
| Keiffer Moore on 13:05 - Jan 16 by Steve_M |
WED. |
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| Keiffer Moore on 13:17 - Jan 16 with 1972 views | Steve_M |
| Keiffer Moore on 13:08 - Jan 16 by hoppy |
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I'm not sure anyone over 25 did ever find out what that meant did they? | |
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| Keiffer Moore on 13:22 - Jan 16 with 1911 views | SWGF |
| Keiffer Moore on 13:17 - Jan 16 by Steve_M |
I'm not sure anyone over 25 did ever find out what that meant did they? |
#clack | |
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| Keiffer Moore on 13:35 - Jan 16 with 1804 views | hoppy |
| Keiffer Moore on 13:17 - Jan 16 by Steve_M |
I'm not sure anyone over 25 did ever find out what that meant did they? |
I know I certainly gave up on ever knowing. | |
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| Keiffer Moore on 15:49 - Jan 16 with 1578 views | Garv |
Thats a rather black and white, simple way of looking at it isn't it? |  |
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