| Contract situations 13:13 - Apr 18 with 3359 views | Reuser_is_God |
Why on earth have we taken our option of an extra year on Dean Gerken's contract but not that of Luke Chambers'? |  |
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| Contract situations on 13:14 - Apr 18 with 1816 views | hype313 |
He's cheap? |  |
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| Contract situations on 13:14 - Apr 18 with 1811 views | Reuser_is_God |
| Contract situations on 13:14 - Apr 18 by hype313 |
He's cheap? |
I'd imagine this extra year is on the same wage.
Surely we can't be cutting our budget?! | |
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| Contract situations on 13:16 - Apr 18 with 1799 views | hype313 |
| Contract situations on 13:14 - Apr 18 by Reuser_is_God |
I'd imagine this extra year is on the same wage.
Surely we can't be cutting our budget?! |
To be honest, there are keepers in the Isthiman league who could do Gerks job, so securing him for another year knowing full well he'd sign is easy to get done. | |
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| Contract situations on 13:18 - Apr 18 with 1772 views | Reuser_is_God |
| Contract situations on 13:16 - Apr 18 by hype313 |
To be honest, there are keepers in the Isthiman league who could do Gerks job, so securing him for another year knowing full well he'd sign is easy to get done. |
But the extra year was signed for when they signed the contract originally. All ITFC have to do is say to Chambers 'We're exercising our right to extend your contract for another year'
Then if someone else wants him/he wants to leave then they'll have to pay for him. If he ends up leaving on a free then it's a joke. | |
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| Contract situations on 13:19 - Apr 18 with 1768 views | jpring89 |
Gerkens not that bad to be fair. Chambers might be off maybe ? Now were safe we may see a bit of movement where players are concerned and Team selections for the rest of the season. |  |
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| Contract situations on 13:20 - Apr 18 with 1755 views | Reuser_is_God |
| Contract situations on 13:19 - Apr 18 by jpring89 |
Gerkens not that bad to be fair. Chambers might be off maybe ? Now were safe we may see a bit of movement where players are concerned and Team selections for the rest of the season. |
Even if Chambers is off why do we not exercise our right to extend his deal & get a fee for him?
Or are ITFC powers that be genuinely thick? | |
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| Contract situations on 13:22 - Apr 18 with 1737 views | Kieran_Knows |
| Contract situations on 13:18 - Apr 18 by Reuser_is_God |
But the extra year was signed for when they signed the contract originally. All ITFC have to do is say to Chambers 'We're exercising our right to extend your contract for another year'
Then if someone else wants him/he wants to leave then they'll have to pay for him. If he ends up leaving on a free then it's a joke. |
I imagine a few things will become a lot clearer in the next couple of weeks. I presume we've been waiting till were 100% safe to sort out any complex contract situations. |  |
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| Contract situations on 13:26 - Apr 18 with 1700 views | Reuser_is_God |
| Contract situations on 13:22 - Apr 18 by Kieran_Knows |
I imagine a few things will become a lot clearer in the next couple of weeks. I presume we've been waiting till were 100% safe to sort out any complex contract situations. |
But it's not complex though is it?
ITFC exercise their right to extend the contract of said player by a year, job done.
Even if Chambers does want to leave you still take the option & get a fee for him no matter how small? We need all the money we can get.
If it was down to me I'd extend Chambers deal by 3 years with a nice little pay rise. | |
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| Contract situations on 13:26 - Apr 18 with 1723 views | PhilTWTD |
I think the interest from Cardiff in January led to promises regarding the offer of a new deal being made with the option being taken the first step.
Re Chambo, ME and the players' representatives were due to start talks in March, so I assume there have been discussions by now. |  | | |
| Contract situations on 13:27 - Apr 18 with 1688 views | No9 |
| Contract situations on 13:26 - Apr 18 by PhilTWTD |
I think the interest from Cardiff in January led to promises regarding the offer of a new deal being made with the option being taken the first step.
Re Chambo, ME and the players' representatives were due to start talks in March, so I assume there have been discussions by now. |
Do you get the impression the skipper is preparing to get his bags packed? | | | |
| Contract situations on 13:30 - Apr 18 with 1674 views | Kieran_Knows |
| Contract situations on 13:26 - Apr 18 by Reuser_is_God |
But it's not complex though is it?
ITFC exercise their right to extend the contract of said player by a year, job done.
Even if Chambers does want to leave you still take the option & get a fee for him no matter how small? We need all the money we can get.
If it was down to me I'd extend Chambers deal by 3 years with a nice little pay rise. |
In my opinion, I think the delay has all been dependent on if we stayed up or not. Whilst exercising the option is all well and good (and should be done regardless), one presumes that would mean he would stay on what he is already on, meaning if we went down, he'd take a fair percentage of our wage bill up, and also being difficult to move on (for a fee anyway).
As I say, I think things will become a little clearer in the next couple of weeks. 2 year deal with another years option in it is my guess. | |
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| Contract situations on 13:30 - Apr 18 with 1677 views | Reuser_is_God |
| Contract situations on 13:26 - Apr 18 by PhilTWTD |
I think the interest from Cardiff in January led to promises regarding the offer of a new deal being made with the option being taken the first step.
Re Chambo, ME and the players' representatives were due to start talks in March, so I assume there have been discussions by now. |
Why are they having talks though? The terms of the year extension were all ready agreed when the original deal was signed.
The club shouldn't even be talking to him, they should be telling him they've taken the option. Then talks can't commence about a further deal thereafter.
As Mick would say, it's bonkers. | |
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| Assume that the length of contract..... on 13:33 - Apr 18 with 1656 views | Bloots |
| Contract situations on 13:26 - Apr 18 by PhilTWTD |
I think the interest from Cardiff in January led to promises regarding the offer of a new deal being made with the option being taken the first step.
Re Chambo, ME and the players' representatives were due to start talks in March, so I assume there have been discussions by now. |
....is the real sticking point with Chambo?
We need to get this sorted out, he's vital. |  |
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| Contract situations on 13:36 - Apr 18 with 1631 views | Reuser_is_God |
| Contract situations on 13:30 - Apr 18 by Kieran_Knows |
In my opinion, I think the delay has all been dependent on if we stayed up or not. Whilst exercising the option is all well and good (and should be done regardless), one presumes that would mean he would stay on what he is already on, meaning if we went down, he'd take a fair percentage of our wage bill up, and also being difficult to move on (for a fee anyway).
As I say, I think things will become a little clearer in the next couple of weeks. 2 year deal with another years option in it is my guess. |
True on the divisional status part, but surely we have relegation clauses in contracts too? | |
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| Contract situations on 13:36 - Apr 18 with 1629 views | Radlett_blue |
| Contract situations on 13:30 - Apr 18 by Reuser_is_God |
Why are they having talks though? The terms of the year extension were all ready agreed when the original deal was signed.
The club shouldn't even be talking to him, they should be telling him they've taken the option. Then talks can't commence about a further deal thereafter.
As Mick would say, it's bonkers. |
Not bonkers at all. ITFC have 3 options - trigger the extension, tell Chambers he can leave for nothing or offer him a longer deal, say 2 years. By triggering the extension early, they lose one of those options so their negotiating position is slightly weakened.
I reckon this may well also be tied up with uncertainty about our League status, Mick's tenure & Evans's ownership. |  |
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| Contract situations on 13:38 - Apr 18 with 1613 views | PhilTWTD |
| Contract situations on 13:30 - Apr 18 by Reuser_is_God |
Why are they having talks though? The terms of the year extension were all ready agreed when the original deal was signed.
The club shouldn't even be talking to him, they should be telling him they've taken the option. Then talks can't commence about a further deal thereafter.
As Mick would say, it's bonkers. |
Mick has said previously that no options would be taken up until the divisional status is clear. I assume that applies to Chambo even though conversations have apparently been taking place regarding a longer-term deal. I would guess the club will make moves on the option front now we're sorted. | | | |
| Contract situations on 13:38 - Apr 18 with 1602 views | Reuser_is_God |
| Contract situations on 13:36 - Apr 18 by Radlett_blue |
Not bonkers at all. ITFC have 3 options - trigger the extension, tell Chambers he can leave for nothing or offer him a longer deal, say 2 years. By triggering the extension early, they lose one of those options so their negotiating position is slightly weakened.
I reckon this may well also be tied up with uncertainty about our League status, Mick's tenure & Evans's ownership. |
They can trigger the option to ensure he doesn't leave on a free & then offer a new, longer & more lucrative deal a month or so later. | |
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| Contract situations on 13:39 - Apr 18 with 1604 views | Reuser_is_God |
| Contract situations on 13:38 - Apr 18 by PhilTWTD |
Mick has said previously that no options would be taken up until the divisional status is clear. I assume that applies to Chambo even though conversations have apparently been taking place regarding a longer-term deal. I would guess the club will make moves on the option front now we're sorted. |
Well we took up an option with Gerken... | |
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| Contract situations on 13:40 - Apr 18 with 1595 views | Kieran_Knows |
| Contract situations on 13:36 - Apr 18 by Reuser_is_God |
True on the divisional status part, but surely we have relegation clauses in contracts too? |
You'd think so, although not 100% sure how all those clause things work out. Pretty sure we was doing okay the last time Chambers signed a new deal, so perhaps that kind of clause wasn't put in it?
Wasn't there a thing a few months ago when Leicester were doing quite badly that whilst Vardy and Mahrez signed new bumper £100k a week deals last summer, there wasn't any (relegation) clauses inserted in their deals which could have left Leicester in a bit of a pickle if they had got relegated? [Post edited 18 Apr 2017 13:41]
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| Assume that the length of contract..... on 13:40 - Apr 18 with 1605 views | PhilTWTD |
| Assume that the length of contract..... on 13:33 - Apr 18 by Bloots |
....is the real sticking point with Chambo?
We need to get this sorted out, he's vital. |
May well be an issue. It's worth noting that in previous years with some other players the club has tended not to take up options until around this point in the season and have then discussed contracts with their agents over the summer, Tommy Smith being an example last year, David McGoldrick a couple of years ago. | | | |
| Yeah but that was Gerken.... on 13:40 - Apr 18 with 1592 views | Bloots |
| Contract situations on 13:39 - Apr 18 by Reuser_is_God |
Well we took up an option with Gerken... |
....hardly think he was going to find a better deal anywhere else.
He probably bit their hand off. | |
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| Contract situations on 13:42 - Apr 18 with 1587 views | PhilTWTD |
| Contract situations on 13:39 - Apr 18 by Reuser_is_God |
Well we took up an option with Gerken... |
I would guess he's not one of the higher earners so not quite such a big commitment and, reading between the lines of something Mick said recently, I think that the offer of a longer-term deal was agreed in January when there was the interest in him. | | | |
| Contract situations on 13:42 - Apr 18 with 1582 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Contract situations on 13:39 - Apr 18 by Reuser_is_God |
Well we took up an option with Gerken... |
Hasn't Mick also said they intend to offer Gerkin a longer, improved, contract. |  |
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| From memory, didn't Forest offer him..... on 13:42 - Apr 18 with 1582 views | Bloots |
| Assume that the length of contract..... on 13:40 - Apr 18 by PhilTWTD |
May well be an issue. It's worth noting that in previous years with some other players the club has tended not to take up options until around this point in the season and have then discussed contracts with their agents over the summer, Tommy Smith being an example last year, David McGoldrick a couple of years ago. |
....2 or 3 years in January?
I expect his agent is trying to sort something similar at Town.
Maybe Forest's position is holding things up in the same way ours was. | |
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| Yeah but that was Gerken.... on 13:42 - Apr 18 with 1581 views | Reuser_is_God |
| Yeah but that was Gerken.... on 13:40 - Apr 18 by Bloots |
....hardly think he was going to find a better deal anywhere else.
He probably bit their hand off. |
He wouldn't have bitten their hand off, they wouldn't have even offered him a deal.
They'd have said 'we're taking up our option with Gerken'
Exactly what we should've done with Chambers. | |
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