| Pitman who is a proven goalscorer at this level is told he can leave 12:35 - May 10 with 8199 views | Mach_foreignBlue |
Tens of goals at this level and he isn't even 30 while a non-league substitute is deemed as a better option for next season.
Encouraging isn't it? |  | | |  |
| Pitman who is a proven goalscorer at this level is told he can leave on 12:46 - May 10 with 3570 views | Guthrum |
Pitman is a decent marksman, but he doesn't do much else (apart from have a go at his teammates). Has to have the ball fed to him in front of goal. We need more players who can create chances as well. |  |
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| Pitman who is a proven goalscorer at this level is told he can leave on 12:47 - May 10 with 3562 views | ASAx |
In my opinion Mick has probably decided several months ago that Pitman was not part of his long term plans.
As a free transfer, a striker and with proven quality he will be on a good wage. Probably one of the top earners after Chambers, McGoldrick and maybe a couple more.
Mick has possibly given Moore and Samuel a chance ahead of Pitman on the basis that he wanted to see what they could do and realistically we were never likely to go down.
I don't think for one minute Mick considers either to be better than Pitman. Purely that they offer better value for money within the squad as a backup / rotation option while freeing up Pitman's wage allows us to bring in someone else who may better fit what we need from them and therefore prove to be a better option than Pitman.
Pitman is an out and out finisher in a team that had the fewest shots in the division. The additional work we need, closing people down, working hard, running in the channels and making something out of nothing, is not what Pitman excels at and the last few months especially he's looked lazy, disinterested and argued with team mates.
He'll do very well at a club that plays to his strengths but that isn't us and so I'm happy to see him go if we target someone more suitable.
Obviously if Mick is genuinely thinking Moore or Samuel are as good and we don't need to replace Pitman then it's beyond laughable. |  | | |
| Pitman who is a proven goalscorer at this level is told he can leave on 13:04 - May 10 with 3478 views | Archer4721 |
I think you might find he asked to leave some time ago. |  | | |
| Pitman who is a proven goalscorer at this level is told he can leave on 13:04 - May 10 with 3474 views | TractorWood |
| Pitman who is a proven goalscorer at this level is told he can leave on 12:46 - May 10 by Guthrum |
Pitman is a decent marksman, but he doesn't do much else (apart from have a go at his teammates). Has to have the ball fed to him in front of goal. We need more players who can create chances as well. |
This, 100%. Our unforgivable failing is not addressing our midfield and wingbacks and thus chance creation. |  |
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| Pitman who is a proven goalscorer at this level is told he can leave on 13:24 - May 10 with 3407 views | SomethingBlue |
Yet of his 451 career appearances, exactly 200 have been as a substitute. Make you wonder anything? [Post edited 10 May 2017 13:25]
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| Pitman who is a proven goalscorer at this level is told he can leave on 13:35 - May 10 with 3344 views | Guthrum |
| Pitman who is a proven goalscorer at this level is told he can leave on 13:04 - May 10 by Archer4721 |
I think you might find he asked to leave some time ago. |
That wouldn't surprise me, either. | |
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| Pitman who is a proven goalscorer at this level is told he can leave on 13:45 - May 10 with 3290 views | Mach_foreignBlue |
| Pitman who is a proven goalscorer at this level is told he can leave on 13:24 - May 10 by SomethingBlue |
Yet of his 451 career appearances, exactly 200 have been as a substitute. Make you wonder anything? [Post edited 10 May 2017 13:25]
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Therefore Kieffer Moore is more sensible option isn't he? | | | |
| Pitman who is a proven goalscorer at this level is told he can leave on 13:48 - May 10 with 3272 views | SomethingBlue |
| Pitman who is a proven goalscorer at this level is told he can leave on 13:45 - May 10 by Mach_foreignBlue |
Therefore Kieffer Moore is more sensible option isn't he? |
Let's be sensible and see who we bring in. | |
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| Pitman who is a proven goalscorer at this level is told he can leave on 13:56 - May 10 with 3248 views | Dolly2.0 |
Moore isn't the alternative to Pitman.
No doubt you'll attacking me now for something totally unrelated I said a year ago... |  |
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| Pitman who is a proven goalscorer at this level is told he can leave on 13:57 - May 10 with 3243 views | Mach_foreignBlue |
| Pitman who is a proven goalscorer at this level is told he can leave on 13:56 - May 10 by Dolly2.0 |
Moore isn't the alternative to Pitman.
No doubt you'll attacking me now for something totally unrelated I said a year ago... |
Don't be paranoid. | | | |
| Pitman who is a proven goalscorer at this level is told he can leave on 14:02 - May 10 with 3227 views | TheBlueBarca |
| Pitman who is a proven goalscorer at this level is told he can leave on 12:47 - May 10 by ASAx |
In my opinion Mick has probably decided several months ago that Pitman was not part of his long term plans.
As a free transfer, a striker and with proven quality he will be on a good wage. Probably one of the top earners after Chambers, McGoldrick and maybe a couple more.
Mick has possibly given Moore and Samuel a chance ahead of Pitman on the basis that he wanted to see what they could do and realistically we were never likely to go down.
I don't think for one minute Mick considers either to be better than Pitman. Purely that they offer better value for money within the squad as a backup / rotation option while freeing up Pitman's wage allows us to bring in someone else who may better fit what we need from them and therefore prove to be a better option than Pitman.
Pitman is an out and out finisher in a team that had the fewest shots in the division. The additional work we need, closing people down, working hard, running in the channels and making something out of nothing, is not what Pitman excels at and the last few months especially he's looked lazy, disinterested and argued with team mates.
He'll do very well at a club that plays to his strengths but that isn't us and so I'm happy to see him go if we target someone more suitable.
Obviously if Mick is genuinely thinking Moore or Samuel are as good and we don't need to replace Pitman then it's beyond laughable. |
I think your last sentence sums up old Mick perfectly. He's totally lost the plot here, he's only in the job because our owner is too worried about his own losses to change him. |  |
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| Pitman who is a proven goalscorer at this level is told he can leave on 14:09 - May 10 with 3203 views | Dolly2.0 |
| Pitman who is a proven goalscorer at this level is told he can leave on 13:57 - May 10 by Mach_foreignBlue |
Don't be paranoid. |
Haha. That's exactly what you did yesterday!
So anyway, to the point again - Moore isn't the option instead of Pitman. The two are not related (unless you think Mick has totally taken leave of his senses). | |
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| Pitman who is a proven goalscorer at this level is told he can leave on 14:10 - May 10 with 3196 views | Dolly2.0 |
| Pitman who is a proven goalscorer at this level is told he can leave on 14:02 - May 10 by TheBlueBarca |
I think your last sentence sums up old Mick perfectly. He's totally lost the plot here, he's only in the job because our owner is too worried about his own losses to change him. |
Where has Mick said we don't need to replace Pitman? | |
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| Pitman who is a proven goalscorer at this level is told he can leave on 14:12 - May 10 with 3186 views | TheBlueBarca |
| Pitman who is a proven goalscorer at this level is told he can leave on 14:10 - May 10 by Dolly2.0 |
Where has Mick said we don't need to replace Pitman? |
He's probably already lined up Dominic Samuel for the job and another Leon Best type to eat wagers here. | |
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| Pitman who is a proven goalscorer at this level is told he can leave on 14:17 - May 10 with 3163 views | chicoazul |
| Pitman who is a proven goalscorer at this level is told he can leave on 12:46 - May 10 by Guthrum |
Pitman is a decent marksman, but he doesn't do much else (apart from have a go at his teammates). Has to have the ball fed to him in front of goal. We need more players who can create chances as well. |
You say being a great finisher who is determined to win like it's a bad thing. Goals win games, Pits when he played properly scored what was it 14 or whatever in his first season with us. He got the joint-third most assists last season despite making many fewer appearances than most. Youre talking rubbish. |  |
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| Pitman who is a proven goalscorer at this level is told he can leave on 14:18 - May 10 with 3147 views | chicoazul |
| Pitman who is a proven goalscorer at this level is told he can leave on 13:04 - May 10 by Archer4721 |
I think you might find he asked to leave some time ago. |
Like I said earlier we already let one homesick cry baby leave who is a good player. | |
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| Pitman who is a proven goalscorer at this level is told he can leave on 14:19 - May 10 with 3135 views | Dolly2.0 |
| Pitman who is a proven goalscorer at this level is told he can leave on 14:12 - May 10 by TheBlueBarca |
He's probably already lined up Dominic Samuel for the job and another Leon Best type to eat wagers here. |
Seeing as Mick bombed out Best himself, I very much doubt it. | |
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| Pitman who is a proven goalscorer at this level is told he can leave on 14:23 - May 10 with 3115 views | chicoazul |
| Pitman who is a proven goalscorer at this level is told he can leave on 13:24 - May 10 by SomethingBlue |
Yet of his 451 career appearances, exactly 200 have been as a substitute. Make you wonder anything? [Post edited 10 May 2017 13:25]
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Similarly he has an almost 1 in 3 career average according to Wikipedia stats. You seriously think we are going to get a player with that sort of quality to replace him? Who cares if he only starts or finishes games but doesnt do both? I can't think of a better player to bring on with 30 minutes left than someone who has a 1 in 3 average despite all those sub appearances. | |
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| Pitman who is a proven goalscorer at this level is told he can leave on 14:34 - May 10 with 3089 views | Mach_foreignBlue |
| Pitman who is a proven goalscorer at this level is told he can leave on 14:09 - May 10 by Dolly2.0 |
Haha. That's exactly what you did yesterday!
So anyway, to the point again - Moore isn't the option instead of Pitman. The two are not related (unless you think Mick has totally taken leave of his senses). |
Once again: don't be paranoid. You don't need to mention 'attacking yourself'. Just get focused on OP.
The past experiences will have taught us that any bizarre decision from this club is possible. That one from last August for example (Best as an option to replace Murphy). So you cannot entirely rule out the option of Moore instead of Pitman. | | | |
| Pitman who is a proven goalscorer at this level is told he can leave on 14:46 - May 10 with 3061 views | monty_radio |
Pitman seems to be seen as either lazy or proven. But given that he can actually control a football, score goals and attempt passes that others don't see, he'll know there'll be shedloads of takers. If it's a champ side he goes to, and they play him as a second striker, he'll be delighted to score against Mick. There'll be no muted celebration either! | |
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| Pitman who is a proven goalscorer at this level is told he can leave on 14:49 - May 10 with 3052 views | Reuser_is_God |
| Pitman who is a proven goalscorer at this level is told he can leave on 12:47 - May 10 by ASAx |
In my opinion Mick has probably decided several months ago that Pitman was not part of his long term plans.
As a free transfer, a striker and with proven quality he will be on a good wage. Probably one of the top earners after Chambers, McGoldrick and maybe a couple more.
Mick has possibly given Moore and Samuel a chance ahead of Pitman on the basis that he wanted to see what they could do and realistically we were never likely to go down.
I don't think for one minute Mick considers either to be better than Pitman. Purely that they offer better value for money within the squad as a backup / rotation option while freeing up Pitman's wage allows us to bring in someone else who may better fit what we need from them and therefore prove to be a better option than Pitman.
Pitman is an out and out finisher in a team that had the fewest shots in the division. The additional work we need, closing people down, working hard, running in the channels and making something out of nothing, is not what Pitman excels at and the last few months especially he's looked lazy, disinterested and argued with team mates.
He'll do very well at a club that plays to his strengths but that isn't us and so I'm happy to see him go if we target someone more suitable.
Obviously if Mick is genuinely thinking Moore or Samuel are as good and we don't need to replace Pitman then it's beyond laughable. |
Nailed it. |  |
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| Pitman who is a proven goalscorer at this level is told he can leave on 14:51 - May 10 with 3038 views | Archer4721 |
| Pitman who is a proven goalscorer at this level is told he can leave on 14:18 - May 10 by chicoazul |
Like I said earlier we already let one homesick cry baby leave who is a good player. |
Who's that then? | | | |
| Pitman who is a proven goalscorer at this level is told he can leave on 14:56 - May 10 with 3017 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Pitman who is a proven goalscorer at this level is told he can leave on 14:34 - May 10 by Mach_foreignBlue |
Once again: don't be paranoid. You don't need to mention 'attacking yourself'. Just get focused on OP.
The past experiences will have taught us that any bizarre decision from this club is possible. That one from last August for example (Best as an option to replace Murphy). So you cannot entirely rule out the option of Moore instead of Pitman. |
Nope, but it's probably not worth crying about it until we see what transpires |  |
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| Pitman who is a proven goalscorer at this level is told he can leave on 14:57 - May 10 with 3010 views | Dolly2.0 |
| Pitman who is a proven goalscorer at this level is told he can leave on 14:34 - May 10 by Mach_foreignBlue |
Once again: don't be paranoid. You don't need to mention 'attacking yourself'. Just get focused on OP.
The past experiences will have taught us that any bizarre decision from this club is possible. That one from last August for example (Best as an option to replace Murphy). So you cannot entirely rule out the option of Moore instead of Pitman. |
Priceless. Why didn't you focus on the OP the other day then?
Best wasn't a replacement for Murphy. He was here before Newcastle came sniffing and Murphy put in his transfer request.
Moore is a totally different player to Pitman. One is not instead of the other, unless Mick has had his brain removed. | |
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| Pitman who is a proven goalscorer at this level is told he can leave on 15:03 - May 10 with 2992 views | chislehurstblue |
| Pitman who is a proven goalscorer at this level is told he can leave on 14:02 - May 10 by TheBlueBarca |
I think your last sentence sums up old Mick perfectly. He's totally lost the plot here, he's only in the job because our owner is too worried about his own losses to change him. |
Wow you really are out for MM
Take a step back for a minute. He hasnt the plot, ME hasnt made millions by employing or continuing to employ people that arent up to the job. Think about what you are saying.
MM said himself that he wanted to see what Samual and Moore could do. He would have been aware of what Pitman brings to the team has he has obviously played a number of games for the club.
I think the majority of us would agree that if Pitman isnt going to be in the starting 11 and probably being one of the higher earners then it makes sense to off load him. It will free up wages for someone that MM believes can make more of an impact on the starting 11 as its clear he thinks Pitman isnt the answer.
Now stop blubbing and try to think of something constructive to add to the debate. |  | | |
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