| this 20 - 1 salary ratio proposed by labour 09:28 - May 12 with 3851 views | sparks |
Does it apply to football? If not why not. If so then the impact would be enormous. Tea lady at old Trafford would need to be on 15k a week... |  |
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| this 20 - 1 salary ratio proposed by labour on 09:49 - May 12 with 2366 views | J2BLUE |
I'll be the tea lady for 15k a week. |  |
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| this 20 - 1 salary ratio proposed by labour on 09:58 - May 12 with 2345 views | TLA |
That sounds reasonable - hard work, providing a service for hundreds of people, a listening ear etc. That seems worth 1/20th of what Wayne Rooney deserves to me, if not, a little more. |  | | |
| this 20 - 1 salary ratio proposed by labour on 09:59 - May 12 with 2329 views | BlueBadger |
| this 20 - 1 salary ratio proposed by labour on 09:58 - May 12 by TLA |
That sounds reasonable - hard work, providing a service for hundreds of people, a listening ear etc. That seems worth 1/20th of what Wayne Rooney deserves to me, if not, a little more. |
An idle thought has just occurred to me that if we paid the catering staff at PR on a piece rate they'd probably all starve. |  |
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| this 20 - 1 salary ratio proposed by labour on 10:00 - May 12 with 2331 views | chicoazul |
It's almost like they havent quite thought things through isnt it. |  |
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| this 20 - 1 salary ratio proposed by labour on 10:11 - May 12 with 2299 views | No9 |
It depends on which benchmark you use doesn't it?
It may surprise you that not all footballers get paid vast sums of money.
But how do you put a value on any persons services?
Do you believe that if anyone goes to work hey should be paid enough to live on? |  | | |
| this 20 - 1 salary ratio proposed by labour on 10:12 - May 12 with 2300 views | unbelievablue |
She starting left-back then? |  |
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| this 20 - 1 salary ratio proposed by labour on 10:13 - May 12 with 2294 views | unbelievablue |
Originally proposed by Cameron, in 2010, for the Public Sector. | |
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| this 20 - 1 salary ratio proposed by labour on 10:16 - May 12 with 2269 views | sparks |
| this 20 - 1 salary ratio proposed by labour on 10:11 - May 12 by No9 |
It depends on which benchmark you use doesn't it?
It may surprise you that not all footballers get paid vast sums of money.
But how do you put a value on any persons services?
Do you believe that if anyone goes to work hey should be paid enough to live on? |
How should this proposal work for football? | |
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| this 20 - 1 salary ratio proposed by labour on 10:17 - May 12 with 2258 views | unbelievablue |
| this 20 - 1 salary ratio proposed by labour on 10:16 - May 12 by sparks |
How should this proposal work for football? |
It wouldn't, obviously. Next. | |
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| this 20 - 1 salary ratio proposed by labour on 10:31 - May 12 with 2219 views | No9 |
| this 20 - 1 salary ratio proposed by labour on 10:16 - May 12 by sparks |
How should this proposal work for football? |
Football is an aberation
How do you value people should those at the bottom starve?
The worst job in the world is the one when you do a full weeks work you still can't pay the bills.
It is clear you see no value in people | | | |
| this 20 - 1 salary ratio proposed by labour on 10:42 - May 12 with 2195 views | sparks |
| this 20 - 1 salary ratio proposed by labour on 10:31 - May 12 by No9 |
Football is an aberation
How do you value people should those at the bottom starve?
The worst job in the world is the one when you do a full weeks work you still can't pay the bills.
It is clear you see no value in people |
Stop Straw manning and explain how this works. Is a pragmatic exception made for football? What is the moral justification? Or is it an economic or practical justification?
If so what other businesses would have grounds to seek exemptions? | |
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| this 20 - 1 salary ratio proposed by labour on 10:42 - May 12 with 2191 views | unbelievablue |
| this 20 - 1 salary ratio proposed by labour on 10:42 - May 12 by sparks |
Stop Straw manning and explain how this works. Is a pragmatic exception made for football? What is the moral justification? Or is it an economic or practical justification?
If so what other businesses would have grounds to seek exemptions? |
You must be really bored today. | |
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| this 20 - 1 salary ratio proposed by labour on 10:43 - May 12 with 2181 views | J2BLUE |
| this 20 - 1 salary ratio proposed by labour on 10:42 - May 12 by unbelievablue |
You must be really bored today. |
It's a fair question. It seems a really poorly thought out idea. | |
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| this 20 - 1 salary ratio proposed by labour on 10:46 - May 12 with 2172 views | No9 |
| this 20 - 1 salary ratio proposed by labour on 10:42 - May 12 by sparks |
Stop Straw manning and explain how this works. Is a pragmatic exception made for football? What is the moral justification? Or is it an economic or practical justification?
If so what other businesses would have grounds to seek exemptions? |
Can you explain why you don't value people
If you don't want the tea lady to earn a living wage would you have her put down?
Is that your world, can't you accept the Pl is an aberation and not all footballers earn that amount? | | | |
| this 20 - 1 salary ratio proposed by labour on 10:49 - May 12 with 2155 views | sparks |
| this 20 - 1 salary ratio proposed by labour on 10:46 - May 12 by No9 |
Can you explain why you don't value people
If you don't want the tea lady to earn a living wage would you have her put down?
Is that your world, can't you accept the Pl is an aberation and not all footballers earn that amount? |
Absolutely barking.
How do you consider the policy would or should apply? That's all I've asked. I've made no value judgments or comment on the principles at all. | |
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| this 20 - 1 salary ratio proposed by labour on 10:50 - May 12 with 2142 views | Darth_Koont |
How is that a government contract? |  |
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| this 20 - 1 salary ratio proposed by labour on 10:52 - May 12 with 2129 views | unbelievablue |
| this 20 - 1 salary ratio proposed by labour on 10:50 - May 12 by Darth_Koont |
How is that a government contract? |
He said something in an interview about footballers, basically. | |
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| this 20 - 1 salary ratio proposed by labour on 10:53 - May 12 with 2123 views | No9 |
| this 20 - 1 salary ratio proposed by labour on 10:49 - May 12 by sparks |
Absolutely barking.
How do you consider the policy would or should apply? That's all I've asked. I've made no value judgments or comment on the principles at all. |
Not as barking as your implication that peole shouldn't earn a living wage or your refusal to accept the PL is an aberration.
Are these players on fatastic waages or is it salted away in a tax have in a business called ' Me Footballer' | | | |
| this 20 - 1 salary ratio proposed by labour on 10:53 - May 12 with 2119 views | No9 |
| this 20 - 1 salary ratio proposed by labour on 10:49 - May 12 by sparks |
Absolutely barking.
How do you consider the policy would or should apply? That's all I've asked. I've made no value judgments or comment on the principles at all. |
I'm off out now | | | |
| this 20 - 1 salary ratio proposed by labour on 10:55 - May 12 with 2119 views | MJallday |
| this 20 - 1 salary ratio proposed by labour on 10:43 - May 12 by J2BLUE |
It's a fair question. It seems a really poorly thought out idea. |
it is a completly poorly thought out idea.
it wouldnt work in the football industy, and there are other sports industries that would fair just as poorly
pretty much every ftse 250 company would fall foul of it, as they pay their boards (let alone cheif execs) more thank 400k+ (assuming 20k for lowest member of staff)
most of the financial industry would get hit, quite a lot of the IT and healthcare industry too
labour talks about people working hard with one hand, but then vilifys and penalises
them for working hard and getting paid the market rate next. its a flawed policy and an outdated way of thinking |  |
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| this 20 - 1 salary ratio proposed by labour on 10:55 - May 12 with 2111 views | unbelievablue |
| this 20 - 1 salary ratio proposed by labour on 10:55 - May 12 by MJallday |
it is a completly poorly thought out idea.
it wouldnt work in the football industy, and there are other sports industries that would fair just as poorly
pretty much every ftse 250 company would fall foul of it, as they pay their boards (let alone cheif execs) more thank 400k+ (assuming 20k for lowest member of staff)
most of the financial industry would get hit, quite a lot of the IT and healthcare industry too
labour talks about people working hard with one hand, but then vilifys and penalises
them for working hard and getting paid the market rate next. its a flawed policy and an outdated way of thinking |
It's also not even a Labour policy. | |
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| this 20 - 1 salary ratio proposed by labour on 10:56 - May 12 with 2109 views | sparks |
| this 20 - 1 salary ratio proposed by labour on 10:53 - May 12 by No9 |
Not as barking as your implication that peole shouldn't earn a living wage or your refusal to accept the PL is an aberration.
Are these players on fatastic waages or is it salted away in a tax have in a business called ' Me Footballer' |
I have implied nothing. You are dishonest in that assertion. The PL is plainly unusual and if you like an aberration. Stop evading. It's getting embarrassing. How do you think this should apply in the real world? | |
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| this 20 - 1 salary ratio proposed by labour on 10:58 - May 12 with 2097 views | sparks |
| this 20 - 1 salary ratio proposed by labour on 10:56 - May 12 by sparks |
I have implied nothing. You are dishonest in that assertion. The PL is plainly unusual and if you like an aberration. Stop evading. It's getting embarrassing. How do you think this should apply in the real world? |
He's legged it. I think we have the answer... | |
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| this 20 - 1 salary ratio proposed by labour on 10:59 - May 12 with 2092 views | Darth_Koont |
| this 20 - 1 salary ratio proposed by labour on 10:52 - May 12 by unbelievablue |
He said something in an interview about footballers, basically. |
What was the context then?
Football is an example of what SHOULDN'T be used to normalise high pay in other industries. It's an enclosed market with an extremely limited supply of top-end talent. Really nothing like the rest of the private and public sector. | |
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| this 20 - 1 salary ratio proposed by labour on 11:02 - May 12 with 2071 views | kizaitfc |
Think Jose sacked the tea lady, Eva Carneiro gate all over again I heard | |
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