Am I missing the point? 14:31 - Jun 10 with 2026 views | MattinLondon | Judging by Facebook and the Internet in general if I didn't know better I would have thought that labour won. Ok, they did better than what was expected but it's like a championship side losing 1-0 to Chelsea instead of a predicted 4-0. They still lost. | | | | |
Am I missing the point? on 14:41 - Jun 10 with 1973 views | Swansea_Blue | It does seem a bit strange, but you have to remember what a mess Labour were in. They're much stronger and the Tories, and May in particular are weaker now. But it needs to be kept in perspective. It's still a failure, and pretty damning that they couldn't beat a party who were standing on a ticket of killing foxes and stealing homes from the elderly! | |
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Am I missing the point? on 15:18 - Jun 10 with 1905 views | TractorWood | They are galvanised and briefly tasted the thought of upsetting the apple cart. A bit like our play off season. | |
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Am I missing the point? on 15:22 - Jun 10 with 1895 views | m14_blue |
Am I missing the point? on 14:41 - Jun 10 by Swansea_Blue | It does seem a bit strange, but you have to remember what a mess Labour were in. They're much stronger and the Tories, and May in particular are weaker now. But it needs to be kept in perspective. It's still a failure, and pretty damning that they couldn't beat a party who were standing on a ticket of killing foxes and stealing homes from the elderly! |
I think all these football analogies rather miss the point that this was an election called by the tories with the express intention of wiping Labour off the political map. In that context, a hugely weakened Conservative party, a lame duck prime minister and an energised opposition backed by a young and growing support base is a great result for Labour. I'm no Corbynite but credit where it's due. | | | |
Am I missing the point? on 15:48 - Jun 10 with 1851 views | Swansea_Blue |
Am I missing the point? on 15:22 - Jun 10 by m14_blue | I think all these football analogies rather miss the point that this was an election called by the tories with the express intention of wiping Labour off the political map. In that context, a hugely weakened Conservative party, a lame duck prime minister and an energised opposition backed by a young and growing support base is a great result for Labour. I'm no Corbynite but credit where it's due. |
He's done well compared to what was expected. Although I heard this morning that once the constituency boundaries come into force in 2018, they'll effectively have 80 seats less than the Tories. A lot of catching up to do still. But yep, he's done well. May's had a shocker and it serves her right for putting her ambition ahead of her duty. | |
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Am I missing the point? on 15:56 - Jun 10 with 1826 views | BlueBadger |
Am I missing the point? on 15:22 - Jun 10 by m14_blue | I think all these football analogies rather miss the point that this was an election called by the tories with the express intention of wiping Labour off the political map. In that context, a hugely weakened Conservative party, a lame duck prime minister and an energised opposition backed by a young and growing support base is a great result for Labour. I'm no Corbynite but credit where it's due. |
Corbyn asking for May to resign... by BlueBadger 9 Jun 2017 18:01If we're doing football analogies, this would make the Tories Norwich City circa 94/95. Expected to qualify in a high position, miles away from their rivals and ending up relegated, albeit with a higher points total.
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Am I missing the point? on 16:03 - Jun 10 with 1816 views | Trequartista |
Am I missing the point? on 14:41 - Jun 10 by Swansea_Blue | It does seem a bit strange, but you have to remember what a mess Labour were in. They're much stronger and the Tories, and May in particular are weaker now. But it needs to be kept in perspective. It's still a failure, and pretty damning that they couldn't beat a party who were standing on a ticket of killing foxes and stealing homes from the elderly! |
And also for a socialist party to get 12.8 million votes and 40% when we were constantly told (mostly by blairites) that a socialist party is unelectable. That is more votes than David Cameron in 2015, David Cameron in 2010, Ed Miliband, Gordon Brown, Tony Blair in 2005, Tony Blair in 2001 or Neil Kinnock | |
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Am I missing the point? on 16:18 - Jun 10 with 1794 views | Binner | A bit like north of the border, really, People are saying how badly SNP did. The truth is that they won a landslide victory in Scotland; just not as big a landslide as previously. | |
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Am I missing the point? on 00:00 - Jun 11 with 1623 views | Coastalblue |
Am I missing the point? on 15:22 - Jun 10 by m14_blue | I think all these football analogies rather miss the point that this was an election called by the tories with the express intention of wiping Labour off the political map. In that context, a hugely weakened Conservative party, a lame duck prime minister and an energised opposition backed by a young and growing support base is a great result for Labour. I'm no Corbynite but credit where it's due. |
I do agree with all of that, but still feel he's probably missed his chance. The election campaign after a rocky start turned into an almost perfect storm for Labour with the appalling Tory campaign, I seriously doubt it will pan out the same way again, or that they can motivate the youth vote to get off their arses a second time. | |
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Am I missing the point? on 00:25 - Jun 11 with 1606 views | TIB | I think the replay with Lincoln this season sums it up really...Red vs Blue...the Reds had their moment, but in reality, they are still a few leagues behind. | |
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Am I missing the point? on 08:18 - Jun 11 with 1510 views | m14_blue |
Am I missing the point? on 00:00 - Jun 11 by Coastalblue | I do agree with all of that, but still feel he's probably missed his chance. The election campaign after a rocky start turned into an almost perfect storm for Labour with the appalling Tory campaign, I seriously doubt it will pan out the same way again, or that they can motivate the youth vote to get off their arses a second time. |
Not sure I agree about the youth vote, why would they be any less motivated next time? You're right though, it's very unlikely that the tories will be quite so shambolic ever again. Unless Boris is in charge of course. | | | |
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