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Corbyn's superb campaigning performance 10:20 - Jun 11 with 7302 viewsm14_blue

Makes his anonymity during the Brexit referendum even more galling.

Had he energised the youth vote to anything like the same extent 12 months ago the outcome could have been very different.

Adds fuel to the fire that maybe he was a shy brexiteer all along.
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Corbyn's superb campaigning performance on 10:37 - Jun 11 with 5051 viewsStochesStotasBlewe

Very true, i was/am a brexiteer, however, the young vote would have swung the the result firmly in favour of remain.

We have no village green, or a shop. It's very, very quiet. I can walk to the pub.

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Corbyn's superb campaigning performance on 11:09 - Jun 11 with 5006 viewsSwansea_Blue

Wouldn't have happened. He did well here because he was able to pull on the strength of his convictions. He didn't have that for the referendum, hence his half-ar5edvapproach to it.

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Corbyn's superb campaigning performance on 11:56 - Jun 11 with 4972 viewsGlasgowBlue

Because he has supported Brexit all of his political life.

As Alan Johnson, the head of Labour's EU Remain campaign, said people in Mr Corbyn's office were “actively undermining the party's efforts” with the leader "at best" unable to control them or "at worst" sympathetic to their views.

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Corbyn's superb campaigning performance on 12:31 - Jun 11 with 4954 viewsArcher4721

Why should Corbyn put all his weight behind a campaign to support Cameron and Gideon and keep them in office?


They got themselves into the mess of calling a referendum for their own political purposes so he was right to let them dig themselves out.
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Corbyn's superb campaigning performance on 12:33 - Jun 11 with 4947 viewsStokieBlue

Corbyn's superb campaigning performance on 12:31 - Jun 11 by Archer4721

Why should Corbyn put all his weight behind a campaign to support Cameron and Gideon and keep them in office?


They got themselves into the mess of calling a referendum for their own political purposes so he was right to let them dig themselves out.


So internal politics before the good of the country then?

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Corbyn's superb campaigning performance on 12:35 - Jun 11 with 4941 viewsGlasgowBlue

Corbyn's superb campaigning performance on 12:31 - Jun 11 by Archer4721

Why should Corbyn put all his weight behind a campaign to support Cameron and Gideon and keep them in office?


They got themselves into the mess of calling a referendum for their own political purposes so he was right to let them dig themselves out.


Party politics before country eh?

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Corbyn's superb campaigning performance on 12:36 - Jun 11 with 4945 viewsArcher4721

Corbyn's superb campaigning performance on 12:33 - Jun 11 by StokieBlue

So internal politics before the good of the country then?

SB


The whole thing was about internal tory politics in the first place, not the good of the country!
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Corbyn's superb campaigning performance on 12:37 - Jun 11 with 4945 viewsLuk38644

Corbyn's superb campaigning performance on 11:56 - Jun 11 by GlasgowBlue

Because he has supported Brexit all of his political life.

As Alan Johnson, the head of Labour's EU Remain campaign, said people in Mr Corbyn's office were “actively undermining the party's efforts” with the leader "at best" unable to control them or "at worst" sympathetic to their views.


I find it funny that, last June, alot of my younger peers started moaning/whining that their 'future has been ruined' by leaving the EU, yet this election, they've voted in their droves to try and elect a socialist government that has committed to leaving the EU and ending free movement, thus, leaving the single market.
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Corbyn's superb campaigning performance on 12:41 - Jun 11 with 4932 viewsArcher4721

Corbyn's superb campaigning performance on 12:35 - Jun 11 by GlasgowBlue

Party politics before country eh?


Like Theresa May did you mean?
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Corbyn's superb campaigning performance on 12:56 - Jun 11 with 4902 viewsGlasgowBlue

Corbyn's superb campaigning performance on 12:41 - Jun 11 by Archer4721

Like Theresa May did you mean?


Yes. Just like Theresa May. I'm glad you acknowledge the comparison.

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Corbyn's superb campaigning performance on 13:15 - Jun 11 with 4887 viewsbring_back_Wickham

Corbyn's superb campaigning performance on 12:41 - Jun 11 by Archer4721

Like Theresa May did you mean?


I think glassers accepts that. But I thought Corbyn was supposed to be "different"?

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Corbyn's superb campaigning performance on 13:31 - Jun 11 with 4861 viewsFrowsyArmLarry

Corbyn's superb campaigning performance on 12:31 - Jun 11 by Archer4721

Why should Corbyn put all his weight behind a campaign to support Cameron and Gideon and keep them in office?


They got themselves into the mess of calling a referendum for their own political purposes so he was right to let them dig themselves out.


For the good of the country? That was the idea wasn't it... you know, to shut down the hard right?
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Corbyn's superb campaigning performance on 13:55 - Jun 11 with 4836 viewsDolly2.0

Corbyn's superb campaigning performance on 12:37 - Jun 11 by Luk38644

I find it funny that, last June, alot of my younger peers started moaning/whining that their 'future has been ruined' by leaving the EU, yet this election, they've voted in their droves to try and elect a socialist government that has committed to leaving the EU and ending free movement, thus, leaving the single market.


Maybe your younger peers didn't vote on that one subject.

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Corbyn's superb campaigning performance on 14:07 - Jun 11 with 4811 viewsSwansea_Blue

Corbyn's superb campaigning performance on 12:56 - Jun 11 by GlasgowBlue

Yes. Just like Theresa May. I'm glad you acknowledge the comparison.


Yes. But on the other hand he wasn't willing to work towards something he doesn't believe in. That's a trait much missed in politicians. It's hard to vote for someone who has no belief in what they're saying - they can't hide it. Half the Tories, most ofbLabour and all of LD are sh*t scared of losing Brexiters and so won't stand for what they believe in. I wish they'd set their stall out and act with the courage of their convictions. At least that's one thing you can give UKIP credit for.

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Corbyn's superb campaigning performance on 14:18 - Jun 11 with 4792 viewsDolly2.0

Corbyn's superb campaigning performance on 14:07 - Jun 11 by Swansea_Blue

Yes. But on the other hand he wasn't willing to work towards something he doesn't believe in. That's a trait much missed in politicians. It's hard to vote for someone who has no belief in what they're saying - they can't hide it. Half the Tories, most ofbLabour and all of LD are sh*t scared of losing Brexiters and so won't stand for what they believe in. I wish they'd set their stall out and act with the courage of their convictions. At least that's one thing you can give UKIP credit for.


Indeed, well said. I'm no fan of UKIP but I admire them for sticking to their principles. The Tories, as we've seen, will literally just say and do whatever they think will keep them in power. Look at May's u-turns for example. And their deal with the DUP that has caused lifelong supporters like Glassers to tear up their membership.

One of the main reasons I love JC is that he has principles. Something that's been in such short supply in politics in my lifetime.

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Corbyn's superb campaigning performance on 14:24 - Jun 11 with 4786 viewsGlasgowBlue

Corbyn's superb campaigning performance on 14:07 - Jun 11 by Swansea_Blue

Yes. But on the other hand he wasn't willing to work towards something he doesn't believe in. That's a trait much missed in politicians. It's hard to vote for someone who has no belief in what they're saying - they can't hide it. Half the Tories, most ofbLabour and all of LD are sh*t scared of losing Brexiters and so won't stand for what they believe in. I wish they'd set their stall out and act with the courage of their convictions. At least that's one thing you can give UKIP credit for.


But he didn't stick to his principles. He has voted against both the Maastricht and Lisbon Treaties. He has campaigned to leave the EU all of his political life.

Had he stuck to his principles he would have joined Labour leave and campaigned on his principle to leave rather than ,making a half hearted attempt to campaign to remain.



https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jan/20/labour-eurosceptics-accuse-corb

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Corbyn's superb campaigning performance on 14:35 - Jun 11 with 4762 viewsGlasgowBlue

Corbyn's superb campaigning performance on 14:18 - Jun 11 by Dolly2.0

Indeed, well said. I'm no fan of UKIP but I admire them for sticking to their principles. The Tories, as we've seen, will literally just say and do whatever they think will keep them in power. Look at May's u-turns for example. And their deal with the DUP that has caused lifelong supporters like Glassers to tear up their membership.

One of the main reasons I love JC is that he has principles. Something that's been in such short supply in politics in my lifetime.


His principles included leaving the EU and scrapping trident. He campaigned to stay in the EU and has committed to Trident in the manifesto.

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Corbyn's superb campaigning performance on 14:36 - Jun 11 with 4758 viewsm14_blue

Corbyn's superb campaigning performance on 14:07 - Jun 11 by Swansea_Blue

Yes. But on the other hand he wasn't willing to work towards something he doesn't believe in. That's a trait much missed in politicians. It's hard to vote for someone who has no belief in what they're saying - they can't hide it. Half the Tories, most ofbLabour and all of LD are sh*t scared of losing Brexiters and so won't stand for what they believe in. I wish they'd set their stall out and act with the courage of their convictions. At least that's one thing you can give UKIP credit for.


Not sure you can level that at the Lib dems.

They've hardly been chasing the brexit vote.
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Corbyn's superb campaigning performance on 14:56 - Jun 11 with 4735 viewsDolly2.0

Corbyn's superb campaigning performance on 14:35 - Jun 11 by GlasgowBlue

His principles included leaving the EU and scrapping trident. He campaigned to stay in the EU and has committed to Trident in the manifesto.


Hang on, haven't people been massively critisising him for his lack of campaigning to stay in the EU and his desire to scrap Trident (or certainly not use it)? Your lot twist things so much I'm struggling to keep up.

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Corbyn's superb campaigning performance on 14:57 - Jun 11 with 4730 viewsNo9

Corbyn's superb campaigning performance on 12:33 - Jun 11 by StokieBlue

So internal politics before the good of the country then?

SB


Isn't that what led Mr Cameron to call for a referendum = to defat John Major's 'bastards'

had you forgotten that?
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Corbyn's superb campaigning performance on 14:58 - Jun 11 with 4727 viewsBackToRussia

Do you have a schedule of his time during the campaign? I'm sure it was packed out. What you mean was his appearances weren't in the media, perhaps because the only attention most of the media wants to give Corbyn is negative.

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Corbyn's superb campaigning performance on 15:04 - Jun 11 with 4719 viewsNo9

Corbyn's superb campaigning performance on 14:24 - Jun 11 by GlasgowBlue

But he didn't stick to his principles. He has voted against both the Maastricht and Lisbon Treaties. He has campaigned to leave the EU all of his political life.

Had he stuck to his principles he would have joined Labour leave and campaigned on his principle to leave rather than ,making a half hearted attempt to campaign to remain.



https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jan/20/labour-eurosceptics-accuse-corb


You can't really chuck that at Mr Corbyn without accepting that Mrs May was not a real 'inner' becoming a strong 'outer' =
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Corbyn's superb campaigning performance on 15:08 - Jun 11 with 4707 viewsBackToRussia

Corbyn's superb campaigning performance on 15:04 - Jun 11 by No9

You can't really chuck that at Mr Corbyn without accepting that Mrs May was not a real 'inner' becoming a strong 'outer' =


Exactly. Height of hypocrisy considering May's campaign. The campaign team were furious at her for being so absent.

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Corbyn's superb campaigning performance on 15:11 - Jun 11 with 4691 viewsGlasgowBlue

Corbyn's superb campaigning performance on 14:56 - Jun 11 by Dolly2.0

Hang on, haven't people been massively critisising him for his lack of campaigning to stay in the EU and his desire to scrap Trident (or certainly not use it)? Your lot twist things so much I'm struggling to keep up.


Yes he halfheartedly campaigned for remain. Had he stuck to his principles he would have campaigned for leave.

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Corbyn's superb campaigning performance on 15:13 - Jun 11 with 4691 viewsjas0999

I'm not a fan of a Corbyn, nor would I consider voting for him still. BUT no doubting his campaign performance was very strong. Massively better than Milliband.

Also disappointed he didn't really back to Remain campaign.
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