Legal advice needed. Sparks if you're around 19:49 - Jun 26 with 8834 views | pistonbroke | Can anyone advise Today my boy received a summons in the post for allegedly throwing a cigarette. Butt out of his car window , apparently an enforcement officer reckons he see him do it , but the thing is the letter was dated 21st may but the alleged offence was 8th June , how can they pre empt an offence and secondly if he denies it surely without photographic evidence. It's one persons word against another | | | | |
Legal advice needed. Sparks if you're around on 19:52 - Jun 26 with 8802 views | sparks | No idea- not my thing. Sounds like a typo though. One word against another can of course be a problem if one of those people is an officer of the law. Difficult to prove beyond reasonably doubt thougg one imagines. | |
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Legal advice needed. Sparks if you're around on 20:00 - Jun 26 with 8745 views | pistonbroke |
Legal advice needed. Sparks if you're around on 19:52 - Jun 26 by sparks | No idea- not my thing. Sounds like a typo though. One word against another can of course be a problem if one of those people is an officer of the law. Difficult to prove beyond reasonably doubt thougg one imagines. |
Ok thanks anyway | | | |
Legal advice needed. Sparks if you're around on 20:29 - Jun 26 with 8650 views | Radlett_blue | I am no lawyer, but I believe people have got off offences if the old bill or CPS make elementary errors such as getting the date wrong. | |
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Legal advice needed. Sparks if you're around on 20:32 - Jun 26 with 8640 views | Lord_Lucan |
Legal advice needed. Sparks if you're around on 20:00 - Jun 26 by pistonbroke | Ok thanks anyway |
Just tell him to go not guilty and advise the bench that he doesn't smoke. If in the extremely unlikely event they have footage of the incident and catch him out it's hardly a hanging offence. | |
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Legal advice needed. Sparks if you're around on 20:39 - Jun 26 with 8605 views | Pinewoodblue | Did he receive a summons or just a fixed penalty notice? Be surprised if it was a summons. | |
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Legal advice needed. Sparks if you're around on 20:45 - Jun 26 with 8565 views | m14_blue | Did he do it? If yes, pay the fine. If no, contest it. | | | |
Legal advice needed. Sparks if you're around on 20:52 - Jun 26 with 8539 views | pistonbroke |
Legal advice needed. Sparks if you're around on 20:32 - Jun 26 by Lord_Lucan | Just tell him to go not guilty and advise the bench that he doesn't smoke. If in the extremely unlikely event they have footage of the incident and catch him out it's hardly a hanging offence. |
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Legal advice needed. Sparks if you're around on 20:52 - Jun 26 with 8532 views | pistonbroke |
Legal advice needed. Sparks if you're around on 20:39 - Jun 26 by Pinewoodblue | Did he receive a summons or just a fixed penalty notice? Be surprised if it was a summons. |
Was a fixed penalty thing | | | |
Legal advice needed. Sparks if you're around on 23:54 - Jun 26 with 8199 views | Swansea_Blue |
Legal advice needed. Sparks if you're around on 20:45 - Jun 26 by m14_blue | Did he do it? If yes, pay the fine. If no, contest it. |
This. I hate it when people chuck their fag ends or any sort of rubbish out of their cars/vans. | |
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Legal advice needed. Sparks if you're around on 01:50 - Jun 27 with 8110 views | FrowsyArmLarry |
Legal advice needed. Sparks if you're around on 23:54 - Jun 26 by Swansea_Blue | This. I hate it when people chuck their fag ends or any sort of rubbish out of their cars/vans. |
A lot of cars don't have ashtrays now | | | |
Legal advice needed. Sparks if you're around on 06:48 - Jun 27 with 7993 views | BackToRussia |
Legal advice needed. Sparks if you're around on 01:50 - Jun 27 by FrowsyArmLarry | A lot of cars don't have ashtrays now |
Does your car have a rubbish bin? No but you don't chuck garbage out of the window do you. | |
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Legal advice needed. Sparks if you're around on 06:49 - Jun 27 with 7992 views | blueconscience |
Legal advice needed. Sparks if you're around on 01:50 - Jun 27 by FrowsyArmLarry | A lot of cars don't have ashtrays now |
Then don't smoke in the car. | |
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Legal advice needed. Sparks if you're around on 07:09 - Jun 27 with 7954 views | FrowsyArmLarry |
Legal advice needed. Sparks if you're around on 06:49 - Jun 27 by blueconscience | Then don't smoke in the car. |
I don't smoke, but I couldn't care less if someone throws a fag butt out of the window. | | | |
Legal advice needed. Sparks if you're around on 08:49 - Jun 27 with 7837 views | factual_blue |
Legal advice needed. Sparks if you're around on 20:52 - Jun 26 by pistonbroke | Was a fixed penalty thing |
Did he do it? | |
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Legal advice needed. Sparks if you're around on 08:52 - Jun 27 with 7828 views | Radlett_blue |
Legal advice needed. Sparks if you're around on 07:09 - Jun 27 by FrowsyArmLarry | I don't smoke, but I couldn't care less if someone throws a fag butt out of the window. |
Where do you stand on drink cans & empty cigarette packets? | |
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Legal advice needed. Sparks if you're around on 08:56 - Jun 27 with 7815 views | bluelagos |
Legal advice needed. Sparks if you're around on 08:52 - Jun 27 by Radlett_blue | Where do you stand on drink cans & empty cigarette packets? |
On the lids. | |
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Legal advice needed. Sparks if you're around on 11:16 - Jun 27 with 7709 views | ipswich78 |
Legal advice needed. Sparks if you're around on 07:09 - Jun 27 by FrowsyArmLarry | I don't smoke, but I couldn't care less if someone throws a fag butt out of the window. |
Really? You are happy with people littering, especially something which doesn't easily biodegrade? I just can't get my head around that mindset you're demonstrating. | |
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Legal advice needed. Sparks if you're around on 11:23 - Jun 27 with 7684 views | giant_stow |
Legal advice needed. Sparks if you're around on 07:09 - Jun 27 by FrowsyArmLarry | I don't smoke, but I couldn't care less if someone throws a fag butt out of the window. |
5 down arrows and counting - you scum! It's a tiny fag butt on a dirty old road with loads of car detritus and fumes - if your detractors really cared about the environment, they wouldnt be driving motor cars. | |
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Legal advice needed. Sparks if you're around on 14:45 - Jun 27 with 7560 views | ipswich78 |
Legal advice needed. Sparks if you're around on 11:23 - Jun 27 by giant_stow | 5 down arrows and counting - you scum! It's a tiny fag butt on a dirty old road with loads of car detritus and fumes - if your detractors really cared about the environment, they wouldnt be driving motor cars. |
Not necessarily, I drive because I have to not because I choose to. I drive the most economical vehicle and pollution free vehicle I can afford that also suits my needs from a family perspective. You choose to smoke. You choose to throw the cigarette butt out of the window. | |
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Legal advice needed. Sparks if you're around on 15:29 - Jun 27 with 7481 views | Meadowlark | Mate recently got fined for this...he doesn't even smoke! Problem is it's a fixed penalty. If you appeal or plead not-guilty, they ramp up the potential amount and of course it's also a time consuming process. Then you have to prove your innocence. Legalised theft. | | | |
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