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Legal advice needed. Sparks if you're around 19:49 - Jun 26 with 8834 viewspistonbroke

Can anyone advise
Today my boy received a summons in the post for allegedly throwing a cigarette. Butt out of his car window , apparently an enforcement officer reckons he see him do it , but the thing is the letter was dated 21st may but the alleged offence was 8th June , how can they pre empt an offence and secondly if he denies it surely without photographic evidence. It's one persons word against another
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Legal advice needed. Sparks if you're around on 19:52 - Jun 26 with 8802 viewssparks

No idea- not my thing. Sounds like a typo though.

One word against another can of course be a problem if one of those people is an officer of the law. Difficult to prove beyond reasonably doubt thougg one imagines.

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Legal advice needed. Sparks if you're around on 20:00 - Jun 26 with 8745 viewspistonbroke

Legal advice needed. Sparks if you're around on 19:52 - Jun 26 by sparks

No idea- not my thing. Sounds like a typo though.

One word against another can of course be a problem if one of those people is an officer of the law. Difficult to prove beyond reasonably doubt thougg one imagines.


Ok thanks anyway
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Legal advice needed. Sparks if you're around on 20:29 - Jun 26 with 8650 viewsRadlett_blue

I am no lawyer, but I believe people have got off offences if the old bill or CPS make elementary errors such as getting the date wrong.

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Legal advice needed. Sparks if you're around on 20:32 - Jun 26 with 8640 viewsLord_Lucan

Legal advice needed. Sparks if you're around on 20:00 - Jun 26 by pistonbroke

Ok thanks anyway


Just tell him to go not guilty and advise the bench that he doesn't smoke.

If in the extremely unlikely event they have footage of the incident and catch him out it's hardly a hanging offence.

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Legal advice needed. Sparks if you're around on 20:39 - Jun 26 with 8605 viewsPinewoodblue

Did he receive a summons or just a fixed penalty notice? Be surprised if it was a summons.

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Legal advice needed. Sparks if you're around on 20:43 - Jun 26 with 8576 viewsSitfcB

http://www.ipswichstar.co.uk/news/court-fines-ipswich-woman-for-flinging-dog-end


Surely the date being wrong must be a typo?

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Legal advice needed. Sparks if you're around on 20:45 - Jun 26 with 8565 viewsm14_blue

Did he do it?

If yes, pay the fine. If no, contest it.
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Legal advice needed. Sparks if you're around on 20:52 - Jun 26 with 8539 viewspistonbroke

Legal advice needed. Sparks if you're around on 20:32 - Jun 26 by Lord_Lucan

Just tell him to go not guilty and advise the bench that he doesn't smoke.

If in the extremely unlikely event they have footage of the incident and catch him out it's hardly a hanging offence.


That's what I told him to do
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Legal advice needed. Sparks if you're around on 20:52 - Jun 26 with 8532 viewspistonbroke

Legal advice needed. Sparks if you're around on 20:39 - Jun 26 by Pinewoodblue

Did he receive a summons or just a fixed penalty notice? Be surprised if it was a summons.


Was a fixed penalty thing
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Legal advice needed. Sparks if you're around on 23:54 - Jun 26 with 8199 viewsSwansea_Blue

Legal advice needed. Sparks if you're around on 20:45 - Jun 26 by m14_blue

Did he do it?

If yes, pay the fine. If no, contest it.


This.

I hate it when people chuck their fag ends or any sort of rubbish out of their cars/vans.

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Legal advice needed. Sparks if you're around on 00:31 - Jun 27 with 8161 viewsBLUEBEAT

For info:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-39882434

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Legal advice needed. Sparks if you're around on 01:50 - Jun 27 with 8110 viewsFrowsyArmLarry

Legal advice needed. Sparks if you're around on 23:54 - Jun 26 by Swansea_Blue

This.

I hate it when people chuck their fag ends or any sort of rubbish out of their cars/vans.


A lot of cars don't have ashtrays now
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Legal advice needed. Sparks if you're around on 06:48 - Jun 27 with 7993 viewsBackToRussia

Legal advice needed. Sparks if you're around on 01:50 - Jun 27 by FrowsyArmLarry

A lot of cars don't have ashtrays now


Does your car have a rubbish bin? No but you don't chuck garbage out of the window do you.

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Legal advice needed. Sparks if you're around on 06:49 - Jun 27 with 7992 viewsblueconscience

Legal advice needed. Sparks if you're around on 01:50 - Jun 27 by FrowsyArmLarry

A lot of cars don't have ashtrays now


Then don't smoke in the car.

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Legal advice needed. Sparks if you're around on 07:09 - Jun 27 with 7954 viewsFrowsyArmLarry

Legal advice needed. Sparks if you're around on 06:49 - Jun 27 by blueconscience

Then don't smoke in the car.


I don't smoke, but I couldn't care less if someone throws a fag butt out of the window.
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Legal advice needed. Sparks if you're around on 08:49 - Jun 27 with 7837 viewsfactual_blue

Legal advice needed. Sparks if you're around on 20:52 - Jun 26 by pistonbroke

Was a fixed penalty thing


Did he do it?

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Legal advice needed. Sparks if you're around on 08:52 - Jun 27 with 7828 viewsRadlett_blue

Legal advice needed. Sparks if you're around on 07:09 - Jun 27 by FrowsyArmLarry

I don't smoke, but I couldn't care less if someone throws a fag butt out of the window.


Where do you stand on drink cans & empty cigarette packets?

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Legal advice needed. Sparks if you're around on 08:56 - Jun 27 with 7815 viewsbluelagos

Legal advice needed. Sparks if you're around on 08:52 - Jun 27 by Radlett_blue

Where do you stand on drink cans & empty cigarette packets?


On the lids.

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Legal advice needed. Sparks if you're around on 11:16 - Jun 27 with 7709 viewsipswich78

Legal advice needed. Sparks if you're around on 07:09 - Jun 27 by FrowsyArmLarry

I don't smoke, but I couldn't care less if someone throws a fag butt out of the window.


Really? You are happy with people littering, especially something which doesn't easily biodegrade?

I just can't get my head around that mindset you're demonstrating.

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Legal advice needed. Sparks if you're around on 11:23 - Jun 27 with 7684 viewsgiant_stow

Legal advice needed. Sparks if you're around on 07:09 - Jun 27 by FrowsyArmLarry

I don't smoke, but I couldn't care less if someone throws a fag butt out of the window.


5 down arrows and counting - you scum!

It's a tiny fag butt on a dirty old road with loads of car detritus and fumes - if your detractors really cared about the environment, they wouldnt be driving motor cars.

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Legal advice needed. Sparks if you're around on 14:45 - Jun 27 with 7560 viewsipswich78

Legal advice needed. Sparks if you're around on 11:23 - Jun 27 by giant_stow

5 down arrows and counting - you scum!

It's a tiny fag butt on a dirty old road with loads of car detritus and fumes - if your detractors really cared about the environment, they wouldnt be driving motor cars.


Not necessarily, I drive because I have to not because I choose to. I drive the most economical vehicle and pollution free vehicle I can afford that also suits my needs from a family perspective.

You choose to smoke. You choose to throw the cigarette butt out of the window.

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Legal advice needed. Sparks if you're around on 15:29 - Jun 27 with 7481 viewsMeadowlark

Mate recently got fined for this...he doesn't even smoke!
Problem is it's a fixed penalty. If you appeal or plead not-guilty, they ramp up the potential amount and of course it's also a time consuming process.
Then you have to prove your innocence.
Legalised theft.
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