| Tristan Nydam 12:54 - Jun 27 with 6244 views | clive_baker |
I've heard good things, how likely are we to see him get involved this season?
If Bishop can get and stay fit he could be like a new signing. Plus Nydam, Dozzell, Huws, Ward, Webster, Rowe, Celina, Kenlock. Some exciting young players potentially, I hope to see a few of them kick on this season. With the experience around them of Bart, Taylor, Chambers, McGoldrick, Garner etc. we could potentially have a side worth watching.
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| Tristan Nydam on 13:35 - Jun 27 with 6140 views | itfcjoe |
I heard last year that before injury Mick had stood him up in front of first team squad and told them he is 'his diamond'.
Think he'd have been involved last year if stays fit - him and Doz a great combo as Nydam has serious energy - like Dyer did |  |
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| Tristan Nydam on 13:35 - Jun 27 by itfcjoe |
I heard last year that before injury Mick had stood him up in front of first team squad and told them he is 'his diamond'.
Think he'd have been involved last year if stays fit - him and Doz a great combo as Nydam has serious energy - like Dyer did |
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| Tristan Nydam on 13:49 - Jun 27 with 6043 views | Vic |
I really hope, and expect, this to be the season that Dozell emerges as a player of real worth. It's a massive season for Bishop as well. If he doesn't kick on then he'll spend his whole carer in div 1 or 2. Nydam pushing through with a few games ready for this time next year would be great, but what would be even better is if he could burst into the scenes like Bishop did, but manage to keep it up.
Other teams have 17 or 18 yr olds that play 20 games a season and show real talent. Used to happen with us in the past, all the way back to the mid 70's - Warky, Burley, Dozzer an, then again with Wright and Dyer and Bramble. It's about time we had another one or two. |  |
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| Tristan Nydam on 13:49 - Jun 27 by Vic |
I really hope, and expect, this to be the season that Dozell emerges as a player of real worth. It's a massive season for Bishop as well. If he doesn't kick on then he'll spend his whole carer in div 1 or 2. Nydam pushing through with a few games ready for this time next year would be great, but what would be even better is if he could burst into the scenes like Bishop did, but manage to keep it up.
Other teams have 17 or 18 yr olds that play 20 games a season and show real talent. Used to happen with us in the past, all the way back to the mid 70's - Warky, Burley, Dozzer an, then again with Wright and Dyer and Bramble. It's about time we had another one or two. |
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| Tristan Nydam on 13:59 - Jun 27 with 5979 views | TIB |
I don't know much about this lad...but would we be looking at McGinn, Tunicliffe, Adeyemi etc if Mick believed the likes of Bishop, Dozzell and Nydam would be featuring regularly this season?
Either way, it's good to hear of a talented youth coming through  |  |
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| Tristan Nydam on 14:00 - Jun 27 with 5972 views | itfcjoe |
| Tristan Nydam on 13:49 - Jun 27 by Vic |
I really hope, and expect, this to be the season that Dozell emerges as a player of real worth. It's a massive season for Bishop as well. If he doesn't kick on then he'll spend his whole carer in div 1 or 2. Nydam pushing through with a few games ready for this time next year would be great, but what would be even better is if he could burst into the scenes like Bishop did, but manage to keep it up.
Other teams have 17 or 18 yr olds that play 20 games a season and show real talent. Used to happen with us in the past, all the way back to the mid 70's - Warky, Burley, Dozzer an, then again with Wright and Dyer and Bramble. It's about time we had another one or two. |
"Other teams have 17 or 18 yr olds that play 20 games a season and show real talent"
That really isn't the case any more | |
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| Tristan Nydam on 14:01 - Jun 27 with 5950 views | Vic |
True! Why is that? Too hard to get them off their phones for long enough? | |
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| Tristan Nydam on 13:59 - Jun 27 by TIB |
I don't know much about this lad...but would we be looking at McGinn, Tunicliffe, Adeyemi etc if Mick believed the likes of Bishop, Dozzell and Nydam would be featuring regularly this season?
Either way, it's good to hear of a talented youth coming through |
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| Tristan Nydam on 14:05 - Jun 27 with 5915 views | DanTheMan |
| Tristan Nydam on 14:01 - Jun 27 by Vic |
True! Why is that? Too hard to get them off their phones for long enough? |
Because unless they are incredibly good, there is not enough reward for doing it. You won't be as competitive with a very young player in the team, and the division is incredibly competitive. Everyone is trying to squeeze that extra 10% out of them.
And we do it better than most, as hard as that is to believe. |  |
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| Tristan Nydam on 14:06 - Jun 27 with 5900 views | Coastalblue |
| Tristan Nydam on 14:01 - Jun 27 by Vic |
True! Why is that? Too hard to get them off their phones for long enough? |
May be more to do with how physically demanding the game is now, the players are true athletes compared to past eras when drinking and smoking was often the norm.
One of the last youngsters we had come through in that way must have been Wickham? He was a big physical specimen. |  |
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| Tristan Nydam on 14:01 - Jun 27 by Vic |
True! Why is that? Too hard to get them off their phones for long enough? |
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| Tristan Nydam on 14:12 - Jun 27 with 5864 views | Guthrum |
I really hope his mentality/attitude can stay strong and well-grounded during the process of transition to the first team. Seems to be a particular danger.. |  |
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| Tristan Nydam on 14:12 - Jun 27 by Guthrum |
I really hope his mentality/attitude can stay strong and well-grounded during the process of transition to the first team. Seems to be a particular danger.. |
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| Tristan Nydam on 15:41 - Jun 27 with 5646 views | Swailsey |
I'm guessing because of the number of young players who go off the rails/have questionable attitude problems/find the pressure hard to deal with after breaking through.
Jet, Bishop, Sonny Pike, Benyu, O'Conner, Morrison, Adu, B.Clarke v2, Logan, that 15 year old lad from Barnsley etc.
* not suggesting all of the above have attitude problems, but they have all struggled with certain issues. [Post edited 27 Jun 2017 16:42]
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| Tristan Nydam on 15:41 - Jun 27 by Swailsey |
I'm guessing because of the number of young players who go off the rails/have questionable attitude problems/find the pressure hard to deal with after breaking through.
Jet, Bishop, Sonny Pike, Benyu, O'Conner, Morrison, Adu, B.Clarke v2, Logan, that 15 year old lad from Barnsley etc.
* not suggesting all of the above have attitude problems, but they have all struggled with certain issues. [Post edited 27 Jun 2017 16:42]
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| Tristan Nydam on 16:50 - Jun 27 with 5494 views | Kieran_Knows |
| Tristan Nydam on 14:00 - Jun 27 by itfcjoe |
"Other teams have 17 or 18 yr olds that play 20 games a season and show real talent"
That really isn't the case any more |
I mean, it's not like you have the stats to back that up, do you Joe......? |  |
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| Tristan Nydam on 19:05 - Jun 27 with 5290 views | Guthrum |
| Tristan Nydam on 15:41 - Jun 27 by Swailsey |
I'm guessing because of the number of young players who go off the rails/have questionable attitude problems/find the pressure hard to deal with after breaking through.
Jet, Bishop, Sonny Pike, Benyu, O'Conner, Morrison, Adu, B.Clarke v2, Logan, that 15 year old lad from Barnsley etc.
* not suggesting all of the above have attitude problems, but they have all struggled with certain issues. [Post edited 27 Jun 2017 16:42]
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Yes, that is exactly what I was alluding to. Making the step up seems to come with a particular set of stresses, temptations and challenges. The late teens is not necessarily the easiest phase of life anyway, now suddenly they are presented with vast prospects and serious income - plus intense pressure and scrutiny.
Not everybody is able to keep a grip under those circumstances and, of course, if a player's concentration and/or fitness falters, at this level they will quickly find themselves falling away, out of the manager's plans. Seasons slip by and all too soon they end up in the category of "not having fulfilled their potential".
I'm making a generic point, not specifically saying anything about Nydam and his level-headedness. | |
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| Tristan Nydam on 19:36 - Jun 27 with 5216 views | clive_baker |
| Tristan Nydam on 14:00 - Jun 27 by itfcjoe |
"Other teams have 17 or 18 yr olds that play 20 games a season and show real talent"
That really isn't the case any more |
I don't think anyone can expect anything like 20 games a season. If Nydam gets on the bench 5 times and the field once or twice, perhaps in the cup that's real progress. If I was Dozzell I would be targeting 10 appearances and pushing for that, it's a healthy ambition IMO. Bishop should be targeting getting fit and establishing himself in the side, as should Webster. Kenlock should have ambitions to be first choice at left back ahead of Knudsen. Huws and Ward should be looking to kick on and improve on last season, establishing themselves as firm fixtures in the midfield. | |
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| Tristan Nydam on 20:00 - Jun 27 with 5171 views | Crock |
Deisler suffered with depression and was also injured a lot. |  |
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| Tristan Nydam on 20:10 - Jun 27 with 5150 views | Mullet |
| Tristan Nydam on 19:36 - Jun 27 by clive_baker |
I don't think anyone can expect anything like 20 games a season. If Nydam gets on the bench 5 times and the field once or twice, perhaps in the cup that's real progress. If I was Dozzell I would be targeting 10 appearances and pushing for that, it's a healthy ambition IMO. Bishop should be targeting getting fit and establishing himself in the side, as should Webster. Kenlock should have ambitions to be first choice at left back ahead of Knudsen. Huws and Ward should be looking to kick on and improve on last season, establishing themselves as firm fixtures in the midfield. |
I wouldn't be against Dozzell starting the season on loan and getting lots of first team games in ready to step up. Last year was such the wrong season for him, the side was all wrong and he suffered for it.
If the U23's can't give him the right challenge, then a short stint away to come in with some experience and momentum might be just what he needs.
It's really Bishop and Hyam that should be fighting for berths in the squad this season, if we get Huws and McGinn/another I'd like to see the kids who didn't quite cut it last season given regular matches as we seem to be doing with Emmanuel. |  |
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| Tristan Nydam on 20:00 - Jun 27 by Crock |
Deisler suffered with depression and was also injured a lot. |
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| Tristan Nydam on 20:56 - Jun 27 with 5021 views | itfcjoe |
| Tristan Nydam on 19:36 - Jun 27 by clive_baker |
I don't think anyone can expect anything like 20 games a season. If Nydam gets on the bench 5 times and the field once or twice, perhaps in the cup that's real progress. If I was Dozzell I would be targeting 10 appearances and pushing for that, it's a healthy ambition IMO. Bishop should be targeting getting fit and establishing himself in the side, as should Webster. Kenlock should have ambitions to be first choice at left back ahead of Knudsen. Huws and Ward should be looking to kick on and improve on last season, establishing themselves as firm fixtures in the midfield. |
Sounds about right. The key is taking your chance when you get an opportunity- Bishop did it previously, I think Kenlock did it last year.
Neither Emmanuel or Dozzell have done as yet but both have time on their side | |
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| Tristan Nydam on 20:58 - Jun 27 with 5011 views | PhilTWTD |
Kieron's a bit of a fan, sees him as his protege. He thought he'd make his debut before the end of the season, which he might have done but for injuries.
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