| Who culled all those threads? 12:12 - Jul 11 with 2720 views | WD19 |
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| Who culled all those threads? on 13:58 - Jul 11 with 2686 views | Ryorry |
Gav is a bar steward, official end of 
And Callis still needs to get out into the countryside to observe the very "ethical mass production" of lambs and beef cattle on the hoof in their lovely green fields, as they wander round relaxed, untroubled, eating, sleeping and generally living the life of riley :) |  |
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| Who culled all those threads? on 14:01 - Jul 11 with 2670 views | GlasgowBlue |
TAKING DOWN A THREAD IS LITTLE BETTER THAN RAPE OR CHILD ABUSE. I SHOWED MY THIS TO MY GF (HI BABE LUV U TO THE MOON AND BACK) AND SHE AGREES!!! |  |
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| Who culled all those threads? on 14:02 - Jul 11 with 2665 views | monytowbray |
| Who culled all those threads? on 13:58 - Jul 11 by Ryorry |
Gav is a bar steward, official end of
And Callis still needs to get out into the countryside to observe the very "ethical mass production" of lambs and beef cattle on the hoof in their lovely green fields, as they wander round relaxed, untroubled, eating, sleeping and generally living the life of riley :) |
I grew up in the countryside, I know it exists. But it accounts for a small majority of meat on shop shelves in this country. |  |
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| Who culled all those threads? on 14:03 - Jul 11 with 2654 views | monytowbray |
| Who culled all those threads? on 14:01 - Jul 11 by GlasgowBlue |
TAKING DOWN A THREAD IS LITTLE BETTER THAN RAPE OR CHILD ABUSE. I SHOWED MY THIS TO MY GF (HI BABE LUV U TO THE MOON AND BACK) AND SHE AGREES!!! |
I like the way you are still pretending that's what I said, despite being told by several posters, including myself, that it wasn't. You can go back and read it if you want. You did the same by claiming I likened voting tory to supporting the IRA. I never said that, again, go back and read it.
Newcy showed the thread to his other half and it was fine. Double standards.
Keep making a fool of yourself though. [Post edited 11 Jul 2017 14:04]
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| Who culled all those threads? on 14:06 - Jul 11 with 2635 views | Ryorry |
| Who culled all those threads? on 14:02 - Jul 11 by monytowbray |
I grew up in the countryside, I know it exists. But it accounts for a small majority of meat on shop shelves in this country. |
If 99% (Campassion in World Farming UK figures) of lambs, eg, is a "small majority", then you're right!  | |
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| Who culled all those threads? on 14:07 - Jul 11 with 2630 views | Swansea_Blue |
Hmm. Over zealous use of the ban hammer if you ask me. But then it's got nothing to do with me so I'll get back in my box. |  |
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| Who culled all those threads? on 14:09 - Jul 11 with 2621 views | monytowbray |
| Who culled all those threads? on 14:06 - Jul 11 by Ryorry |
If 99% (Campassion in World Farming UK figures) of lambs, eg, is a "small majority", then you're right! |
Do you really believe that? We don't have enough space to produce that much meat. I suggest you do some research outside of people who want to ensure you never question purchasing meat. | |
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| Who culled all those threads? on 14:10 - Jul 11 with 2615 views | BelvedereBrunswick |
| Who culled all those threads? on 13:58 - Jul 11 by Ryorry |
Gav is a bar steward, official end of
And Callis still needs to get out into the countryside to observe the very "ethical mass production" of lambs and beef cattle on the hoof in their lovely green fields, as they wander round relaxed, untroubled, eating, sleeping and generally living the life of riley :) |
I don't know the exact % of battery farms vs these green pastures of Old McDonald happy farms you speak of, but what I do know is that you are not taking the crops grown to feed / trade situation in your point.
Something like 5 billion hectares of deforested Brazil is used to feed livestock that's slaughtered know Europe. Which part of that makes sense? |  | | |
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| Who culled all those threads? on 14:11 - Jul 11 with 2611 views | Ryorry |
| Who culled all those threads? on 14:07 - Jul 11 by Swansea_Blue |
Hmm. Over zealous use of the ban hammer if you ask me. But then it's got nothing to do with me so I'll get back in my box. |
In general, I approve of locking threads rather than deleting, but TWTD history is that the Hydra always spawns many babies before people eventually get bored. Lingering unresolved stuff. I'd been searching the thread for a particular post for ages in order to reply to it when the warning was given, so didn't see it. | |
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| Who culled all those threads? on 14:14 - Jul 11 with 2594 views | Ryorry |
| Who culled all those threads? on 14:09 - Jul 11 by monytowbray |
Do you really believe that? We don't have enough space to produce that much meat. I suggest you do some research outside of people who want to ensure you never question purchasing meat. |
https://www.ciwf.org.uk/farm-animals/sheep/
"Sheep farming today
Most sheep are farmed outdoors in extensive systems, with less than 1% kept in intensive systems (although this is still several million animals). Some sheep may be housed over winter but otherwise housing is generally reserved for lambing, fattening of some lambs and for milking sheep." | |
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| Who culled all those threads? on 14:16 - Jul 11 with 2586 views | NewcyBlue |
| Who culled all those threads? on 14:03 - Jul 11 by monytowbray |
I like the way you are still pretending that's what I said, despite being told by several posters, including myself, that it wasn't. You can go back and read it if you want. You did the same by claiming I likened voting tory to supporting the IRA. I never said that, again, go back and read it.
Newcy showed the thread to his other half and it was fine. Double standards.
Keep making a fool of yourself though. [Post edited 11 Jul 2017 14:04]
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Although I didn't show her the thread mate. I said I had shown her various threads and posts and you stick out to her.
It wasn't a thread specific comment.
This vegan pizza of yours, is it as good as you say it is? I did a decent one with asparagus and tendestem broccoli. It was epic. |  |
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| Who culled all those threads? on 14:17 - Jul 11 with 2576 views | monytowbray |
| Who culled all those threads? on 14:16 - Jul 11 by NewcyBlue |
Although I didn't show her the thread mate. I said I had shown her various threads and posts and you stick out to her.
It wasn't a thread specific comment.
This vegan pizza of yours, is it as good as you say it is? I did a decent one with asparagus and tendestem broccoli. It was epic. |
I'm not taking issue with you mate, just the logic of others to use it as a put down.
And yes, I'll put the recipe up soon :) | |
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| Who culled all those threads? on 14:18 - Jul 11 with 2564 views | Ryorry |
| Who culled all those threads? on 14:10 - Jul 11 by BelvedereBrunswick |
I don't know the exact % of battery farms vs these green pastures of Old McDonald happy farms you speak of, but what I do know is that you are not taking the crops grown to feed / trade situation in your point.
Something like 5 billion hectares of deforested Brazil is used to feed livestock that's slaughtered know Europe. Which part of that makes sense? |
I agree with you on the environmental aspect, but was referring to Callis' post on p.20 of the locked thread that it was impossible to ethically mass-produce meat from an animal welfare perspective.
As I said before my thread was deleted, I'm rather envious of the life that the vast majority of UK lambs and beef cattle have! | |
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| Who culled all those threads? on 14:20 - Jul 11 with 2550 views | NewcyBlue |
| Who culled all those threads? on 14:17 - Jul 11 by monytowbray |
I'm not taking issue with you mate, just the logic of others to use it as a put down.
And yes, I'll put the recipe up soon :) |
Ta. I make a mean Thai Curry, I think the only thing you would need an alternative for is fish sauce. | |
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| Who culled all those threads? on 14:22 - Jul 11 with 2538 views | monytowbray |
| Who culled all those threads? on 14:14 - Jul 11 by Ryorry |
https://www.ciwf.org.uk/farm-animals/sheep/
"Sheep farming today
Most sheep are farmed outdoors in extensive systems, with less than 1% kept in intensive systems (although this is still several million animals). Some sheep may be housed over winter but otherwise housing is generally reserved for lambing, fattening of some lambs and for milking sheep." |
"Most sheep are farmed outdoors in extensive systems, with less than 1% kept in intensive systems (although this is still several million animals). Some sheep may be housed over winter but otherwise housing is generally reserved for lambing, fattening of some lambs and for milking sheep.
Although the vast majority of sheep are not intensively farmed, there are still significant concerns for sheep and lamb welfare."
You sort of proved my point with that very link. Still millions and still a concern.
Plus that's just sheep. 50% of UK eggs are from battery farms. 8% of dairy is intensively farmed (by our definition, without considering continually inpregnating cattle as quite a dire thing to do). 40% of the world's meat is via intensive farming.
We can't support the growing population, demand of convenience and competitively low pricing whilst also being ethical in meat production. It's impossible. Plus, what the industry shows on packaging and as as ethical farming and what defines ethical farming regulation are quite different things. [Post edited 11 Jul 2017 14:25]
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| Who culled all those threads? on 14:32 - Jul 11 with 2510 views | Ryorry |
| Who culled all those threads? on 14:22 - Jul 11 by monytowbray |
"Most sheep are farmed outdoors in extensive systems, with less than 1% kept in intensive systems (although this is still several million animals). Some sheep may be housed over winter but otherwise housing is generally reserved for lambing, fattening of some lambs and for milking sheep.
Although the vast majority of sheep are not intensively farmed, there are still significant concerns for sheep and lamb welfare."
You sort of proved my point with that very link. Still millions and still a concern.
Plus that's just sheep. 50% of UK eggs are from battery farms. 8% of dairy is intensively farmed (by our definition, without considering continually inpregnating cattle as quite a dire thing to do). 40% of the world's meat is via intensive farming.
We can't support the growing population, demand of convenience and competitively low pricing whilst also being ethical in meat production. It's impossible. Plus, what the industry shows on packaging and as as ethical farming and what defines ethical farming regulation are quite different things. [Post edited 11 Jul 2017 14:25]
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I agree with you on the population/space/environmental aspect, but your focus on the locked thread was animal welfare.
Round here, the village butchers all use locally sourced animals (one butchers even has its own farm), everything is traceable to the individual farm, and you can see your meat grazing happily in the fields in the years before it reaches the shops. Same with eggs - I buy from my neighbours, whose hens I see running round their fields scratching and pecking away at the grass and worms from dawn to dusk. On the locked thread, you completely ignored everyone who said they similarly only buy ethically produced stuff - and it is mass produced in the UK - as I said, you've only to look out of your car windows driving the length and breadth of the UK and its rural areas.
Cruelty does go on in some places of course, and every effort should be made to stamp that out. But it's not the case for the majority of UK farm animals.
I haven't eaten or drunk dairy products for 30 years btw as I'm allergic, so not commenting on that. [Post edited 11 Jul 2017 14:34]
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| Who culled all those threads? on 14:38 - Jul 11 with 2481 views | monytowbray |
| Who culled all those threads? on 14:32 - Jul 11 by Ryorry |
I agree with you on the population/space/environmental aspect, but your focus on the locked thread was animal welfare.
Round here, the village butchers all use locally sourced animals (one butchers even has its own farm), everything is traceable to the individual farm, and you can see your meat grazing happily in the fields in the years before it reaches the shops. Same with eggs - I buy from my neighbours, whose hens I see running round their fields scratching and pecking away at the grass and worms from dawn to dusk. On the locked thread, you completely ignored everyone who said they similarly only buy ethically produced stuff - and it is mass produced in the UK - as I said, you've only to look out of your car windows driving the length and breadth of the UK and its rural areas.
Cruelty does go on in some places of course, and every effort should be made to stamp that out. But it's not the case for the majority of UK farm animals.
I haven't eaten or drunk dairy products for 30 years btw as I'm allergic, so not commenting on that. [Post edited 11 Jul 2017 14:34]
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Whilst I agree not all animals are farmed in terrible conditions, the fact intensive farming exists is enough for me to say something has to give and stop eating meat.
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| Who culled all those threads? on 14:42 - Jul 11 with 2463 views | GavTWTD |
Can we stop these new threads now please. |  |
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