| Brexiteers should read this Economist leader... on 10:03 - Jul 24 with 5417 views | No9 |
| Brexiteers should read this Economist leader... on 09:31 - Jul 24 by StokieBlue |
I know you look to turn every post into a Tory bash but why have you taken article about Corbyn wanting an impossible free trade agreement and turned it into one about Fox?
They are both rubbish.
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It is simple really.
Corbyn was on TV yesterday saying he would like a deal most people see as being impossible.
Fox was on TV yesterday saying the impossible is what we are going to get = no problems
Add to that Coryn is the leader of a party that may never be in power, Fox is in the cabinet.
Fox, not Corbyn is the story & the fact Rees-Mogg is now second favourite (in the Indy) show where this is going. |  | |  |
| Brexiteers should read this Economist leader... on 10:17 - Jul 24 with 5409 views | StokieBlue |
| Brexiteers should read this Economist leader... on 10:03 - Jul 24 by No9 |
It is simple really.
Corbyn was on TV yesterday saying he would like a deal most people see as being impossible.
Fox was on TV yesterday saying the impossible is what we are going to get = no problems
Add to that Coryn is the leader of a party that may never be in power, Fox is in the cabinet.
Fox, not Corbyn is the story & the fact Rees-Mogg is now second favourite (in the Indy) show where this is going. |
Not sure that is a very good answer as to why you turn every post into an anti-Tory rant regardless of the subject.
I've already agreed both are totally rubbish.
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| Brexiteers should read this Economist leader... on 10:22 - Jul 24 with 5404 views | No9 |
| Brexiteers should read this Economist leader... on 10:17 - Jul 24 by StokieBlue |
Not sure that is a very good answer as to why you turn every post into an anti-Tory rant regardless of the subject.
I've already agreed both are totally rubbish.
SB |
The tories are in govnment are are making a total hash of things
The tories were in government making a referendum real a total undemocratic mess
The tories have been at war for 40+ years over the EU
Any good reson not for this to be an anti tory rant?
IF the tories had any real quality they would have stemmed this back in the 80's | | | |
| Brexiteers should read this Economist leader... on 10:38 - Jul 24 with 5391 views | No9 |
| Brexiteers should read this Economist leader... on 10:14 - Jul 23 by Steve_M |
And car manufacturers. Anyone with enough of a vocal lobby group will gain some concessions from the UK government. Those small businesses, integrated into European supply chains that lack the voice won't.
Then we'll re-create Euratom, and European regulatory agencies in order to allow business regulatory convergence at great cost. |
Car makers, like the wing maker Airbus & chopper makers, need components and materials from the EU to exist.
The farmers recently woke up to the fact the mediteranian climate offers a much longer and more sympathetic growing conditions. | | | |
| Brexiteers should read this Economist leader... on 13:28 - Jul 24 with 5373 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Brexiteers should read this Economist leader... on 09:59 - Jul 23 by Dolly2.0 |
Met up with the gang for the first time in a while last night, and talk briefly got onto Brexit. One of my mates, who's a city banker, reckons it's a disaster.
He said banks like Deutsche Bundesbank will relocate from London because they won't need offices here anymore - and this will see a loss of 20,000 jobs. Not just people who work there, but people in the coffee and sandwich shops and bars that service all these people. |
I would have thought you'd have been delighted to be rid of those evil bankers? |  |
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| Brexiteers should read this Economist leader... on 15:07 - Jul 24 with 5348 views | caught-in-limbo |
| Brexiteers should read this Economist leader... on 21:57 - Jul 23 by StokieBlue |
Technically they don't need offices here now. DB have signed a 25 year lease on a new building on Moorgate. They will have to move EUR clearing to within the EU but seems unlikely they would shell out so much and then walk away from London for other trading given the infrastructure here.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2017/03/23/deutsche-bank-commits-london-secu
Of course, if Brexit is a complete balls-up they might write it off and try and sub-let the lease if possible. Certainly the way things are looking at the moment the job losses are going to be substantial with the knock-on effects you describe also being substantial.
Hopefully common sense will prevail with the whole thing and a sensible "brexit" will be sorted out which means things are hardly any different to how they were before with regards to basically everything.
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"Hopefully common sense will prevail with the whole thing and a sensible "brexit" will be sorted out which means things are hardly any different to how they were before with regards to basically everything. "
That is the way out.
I'll be interested to see if the press spin it as hard or soft Brexit though and then what percentage of the population realise that nothing has happened.
I personally think when all is done and Brexit finally happens, Britain's links with Europe will be greater than they were pre-referendum. |  |
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| Brexiteers should read this Economist leader... on 15:18 - Jul 24 with 5337 views | No9 |
| Brexiteers should read this Economist leader... on 15:07 - Jul 24 by caught-in-limbo |
"Hopefully common sense will prevail with the whole thing and a sensible "brexit" will be sorted out which means things are hardly any different to how they were before with regards to basically everything. "
That is the way out.
I'll be interested to see if the press spin it as hard or soft Brexit though and then what percentage of the population realise that nothing has happened.
I personally think when all is done and Brexit finally happens, Britain's links with Europe will be greater than they were pre-referendum. |
"I personally think when all is done and Brexit finally happens, Britain's links with Europe will be greater than they were pre-referendum."
An interesting comment, what makes you think that?
The likes of Fox, Rees-Mogg, Cash, Redwood et al would prefer to be a part of the USA.
How do you think the UK will function without materials and components from the EU
& we need some 60% of vegetables & 40 of fruit either directly from the EU or, on the Rotterdam passport | | | |
| Brexiteers should read this Economist leader... on 16:31 - Jul 24 with 5312 views | chicoazul |
| Brexiteers should read this Economist leader... on 10:03 - Jul 24 by No9 |
It is simple really.
Corbyn was on TV yesterday saying he would like a deal most people see as being impossible.
Fox was on TV yesterday saying the impossible is what we are going to get = no problems
Add to that Coryn is the leader of a party that may never be in power, Fox is in the cabinet.
Fox, not Corbyn is the story & the fact Rees-Mogg is now second favourite (in the Indy) show where this is going. |
Corbyn is almost entirely to blame for Brexit even happening in the first place. |  |
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| Brexiteers should read this Economist leader... on 18:30 - Jul 24 with 5276 views | noggin |
| Brexiteers should read this Economist leader... on 16:31 - Jul 24 by chicoazul |
Corbyn is almost entirely to blame for Brexit even happening in the first place. |
So it wasn't the wish of the people? |  |
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| Brexiteers should read this Economist leader... on 21:36 - Jul 24 with 5246 views | caught-in-limbo |
| Brexiteers should read this Economist leader... on 15:18 - Jul 24 by No9 |
"I personally think when all is done and Brexit finally happens, Britain's links with Europe will be greater than they were pre-referendum."
An interesting comment, what makes you think that?
The likes of Fox, Rees-Mogg, Cash, Redwood et al would prefer to be a part of the USA.
How do you think the UK will function without materials and components from the EU
& we need some 60% of vegetables & 40 of fruit either directly from the EU or, on the Rotterdam passport |
Two of the biggest areas which mark a sovereign country's independence are its laws and its military.
The press are constantly telling us about the complexities of disentangling our laws from that of the EU following the Brexit vote but:
"700 EU laws introduced in Britain since EU referendum - and 1,200 expected before Brexit"
source:
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/820319/700-EU-laws-Britain-EU-referendum-1-200-
There's also plenty of news from the Government assuring us how we will not be part of a "dangerous" EU army, yet since Brexit there have been ongoing military deals between Britain and other EU countries since Brexit:
with France
http://www.politico.eu/article/brexit-or-not-france-and-britain-deepen-military-
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-and-france-strengthen-defence-cooperation-
with the Netherlands
http://www.monch.com/mpg/news/23-conflict-analysis/1754-uknl.html
https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/united-kingdom-agrees-stronger-defence-partnersh
with Germany
http://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2017/07/21/amid-brexit-germany-and-uk-t
https://www.ft.com/content/2deb3c7c-0ca7-11e7-b030-768954394623
with Norway
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-norway-britain-defence-idUSKBN13520Q
http://www.defensenews.com/digital-show-dailies/surface-navy-association/2017/01
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-and-norway-agree-new-cooperation-on-mariti
with Finland
http://www.finlandtimes.fi/national/2016/07/10/28461/Finland,-Britain-sign-defen
And those are the only countries I've checked. I imagine there are similar plans for greater co-operation with Spain, Italy and Poland too.
As I keep saying: don't pay much attention to what the politicians say, look at what's actually happening. | |
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| Brexiteers should read this Economist leader... on 23:22 - Jul 24 with 5210 views | Freddies_Ears |
| Brexiteers should read this Economist leader... on 10:38 - Jul 24 by No9 |
Car makers, like the wing maker Airbus & chopper makers, need components and materials from the EU to exist.
The farmers recently woke up to the fact the mediteranian climate offers a much longer and more sympathetic growing conditions. |
Indeed. The export boom hasn't happened, despite the weak £, and a big factor is that UK assembles rather than manufactures. So the cost of imported parts that we then assemble has gone up, taking away the currency advantage. Slight generalisation, but it holds good for the major exporters. | | | |
| (No subject) (n/t) on 08:05 - Jul 25 with 5179 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Brexiteers should read this Economist leader... on 23:22 - Jul 24 by Freddies_Ears |
Indeed. The export boom hasn't happened, despite the weak £, and a big factor is that UK assembles rather than manufactures. So the cost of imported parts that we then assemble has gone up, taking away the currency advantage. Slight generalisation, but it holds good for the major exporters. |
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| Brexiteers should read this Economist leader... (n/t) on 08:06 - Jul 25 with 5179 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Brexiteers should read this Economist leader... on 23:22 - Jul 24 by Freddies_Ears |
Indeed. The export boom hasn't happened, despite the weak £, and a big factor is that UK assembles rather than manufactures. So the cost of imported parts that we then assemble has gone up, taking away the currency advantage. Slight generalisation, but it holds good for the major exporters. |
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| (No subject) (n/t) on 08:11 - Jul 25 with 5174 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
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| Brexiteers should read this Economist leader... on 08:25 - Jul 25 with 5166 views | No9 |
The UK's balance of trade for Q1 2017 was nearly £17 Bn- next release due tomorrow.
Annualised that is a near disaster - no matter what the media says.
Add to that Mr Hammond has had to admit the deficit increased this year & the IMF have lowered the UK growth forecast from 2% to 1.7%
On thop of that the UK has now fallen behind ALL EU countries including Greece.
Please explain how any of that is a success story | | | |
| Brexiteers should read this Economist leader... on 08:38 - Jul 25 with 5158 views | GlasgowBlue |
| Brexiteers should read this Economist leader... on 08:25 - Jul 25 by No9 |
The UK's balance of trade for Q1 2017 was nearly £17 Bn- next release due tomorrow.
Annualised that is a near disaster - no matter what the media says.
Add to that Mr Hammond has had to admit the deficit increased this year & the IMF have lowered the UK growth forecast from 2% to 1.7%
On thop of that the UK has now fallen behind ALL EU countries including Greece.
Please explain how any of that is a success story |
"On thop of that the UK has now fallen behind ALL EU countries including Greece"
The UK's predicted growth of 1.7% is actually more than France (1.5%) and Italy (1.3%). Not sure how that makes Britain "fallen behind ALL EU countries".
Germany is forecast to grow 1.8%. Wow! A whole 0.1% more than Britain.
The UK's “downgrade” to 1.7% this year is from the IMF. The same IMF who before the referendum result forecast the UK would "plunge into recession" this year and had to massively upgrade their original prediction.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/jun/18/imf-says-brexit-would-trigger-u
Never let facts get in the way of a good rant freddo. | |
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| Brexiteers should read this Economist leader... on 10:39 - Jul 25 with 5123 views | No9 |
| Brexiteers should read this Economist leader... on 08:38 - Jul 25 by GlasgowBlue |
"On thop of that the UK has now fallen behind ALL EU countries including Greece"
The UK's predicted growth of 1.7% is actually more than France (1.5%) and Italy (1.3%). Not sure how that makes Britain "fallen behind ALL EU countries".
Germany is forecast to grow 1.8%. Wow! A whole 0.1% more than Britain.
The UK's “downgrade” to 1.7% this year is from the IMF. The same IMF who before the referendum result forecast the UK would "plunge into recession" this year and had to massively upgrade their original prediction.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2016/jun/18/imf-says-brexit-would-trigger-u
Never let facts get in the way of a good rant freddo. |
FYI
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jul/24/brexit-economy-sterling-fall-hi | | | |
| Brexiteers should read this Economist leader... on 10:43 - Jul 25 with 5120 views | Juggsy |
| Brexiteers should read this Economist leader... on 09:31 - Jul 24 by StokieBlue |
I know you look to turn every post into a Tory bash but why have you taken article about Corbyn wanting an impossible free trade agreement and turned it into one about Fox?
They are both rubbish.
SB |
We're all Brexiteers now. It was voted on, get over it.
Edit: didn't mean to quote that post, sorry :p
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| Brexiteers should read this Economist leader... on 10:45 - Jul 25 with 5113 views | GlasgowBlue |
The IMF forecast was published yesterday ffs. | |
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