| A massive moment for the poor of the USA on 06:36 - Jul 28 with 5874 views | connorscontract |
McCain came good!
Trump's repeal fails.
Twitter gonna be great today! All yours Mr President... take it away please...
McCain fake Senator and fake War Hero! Fake vote! CNN! Blub! |  | |  |
| A massive moment for the poor of the USA on 06:44 - Jul 28 with 5857 views | ElderGrizzly |
| A massive moment for the poor of the USA on 06:36 - Jul 28 by connorscontract |
McCain came good!
Trump's repeal fails.
Twitter gonna be great today! All yours Mr President... take it away please...
McCain fake Senator and fake War Hero! Fake vote! CNN! Blub! |
Indeed. Failed by one vote.
Did you see Pence and everyone trying to persuade McCain on the floor of the senate?
Makes this tweet rather lovely :)
Thos will come back again though, in an even 'skinnier' form [Post edited 28 Jul 2017 6:45]
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| A massive moment for the poor of the USA on 06:49 - Jul 28 with 5846 views | connorscontract |
| A massive moment for the poor of the USA on 06:44 - Jul 28 by ElderGrizzly |
Indeed. Failed by one vote.
Did you see Pence and everyone trying to persuade McCain on the floor of the senate?
Makes this tweet rather lovely :)
Thos will come back again though, in an even 'skinnier' form [Post edited 28 Jul 2017 6:45]
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Haven't seen it yet, just following Guardian feed on phone.
Hilarious that Pence came to Chair session, so that he could get a casting vote, made a grand entrance, spent an age talking to McCain, then slunk away when McCain told him where to go.
That tweet from Trump is a doozy (as i think the Americans say...) Better screenshot it now because it's sure to be deleted! | | | |
| A massive moment for the poor of the USA on 06:52 - Jul 28 with 5843 views | ElderGrizzly |
| A massive moment for the poor of the USA on 06:49 - Jul 28 by connorscontract |
Haven't seen it yet, just following Guardian feed on phone.
Hilarious that Pence came to Chair session, so that he could get a casting vote, made a grand entrance, spent an age talking to McCain, then slunk away when McCain told him where to go.
That tweet from Trump is a doozy (as i think the Americans say...) Better screenshot it now because it's sure to be deleted! |
Some of the US analysts are saying Trump's tweet to the Alaskan senator threatening her and her state probably lost it, as she was most likely to turn.
Hopefully they can find a true solution to healthcare for these poorer Americans, not this rich man's tax break Turtle Neck was trying to push through.
And of course Trump previously said this about 'hero' McCain
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| A massive moment for the poor of the USA on 07:12 - Jul 28 with 5788 views | homer_123 |
| A massive moment for the poor of the USA on 06:44 - Jul 28 by ElderGrizzly |
Indeed. Failed by one vote.
Did you see Pence and everyone trying to persuade McCain on the floor of the senate?
Makes this tweet rather lovely :)
Thos will come back again though, in an even 'skinnier' form [Post edited 28 Jul 2017 6:45]
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Failed by 2 votes wasn't it? 49 to 51? |  |
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| A massive moment for the poor of the USA on 07:23 - Jul 28 with 5764 views | ElderGrizzly |
| A massive moment for the poor of the USA on 07:12 - Jul 28 by homer_123 |
Failed by 2 votes wasn't it? 49 to 51? |
Technically one, as if a 50/50 split, Pence casts the deciding vote. | | | |
| A massive moment for the poor of the USA on 07:42 - Jul 28 with 5729 views | homer_123 |
| A massive moment for the poor of the USA on 07:23 - Jul 28 by ElderGrizzly |
Technically one, as if a 50/50 split, Pence casts the deciding vote. |
Pence was waiting to cast it and had to skulk off once McCain popped the knife in as he couldn't vote. 3 reps voted against. [Post edited 28 Jul 2017 7:42]
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| A massive moment for the poor of the USA on 07:52 - Jul 28 with 5692 views | ElderGrizzly |
I know it was 49/51, but if it was 50/50, the bill would have passed. So, the Republicans were 1 vote away which is where i was getting at. | | | |
| A massive moment for the poor of the USA on 08:09 - Jul 28 with 5668 views | connorscontract |
If McCain had not turned up it would have been 49 to repeal, 50 to keep.
With him voting to keep, it was 49 repeal to 51 keep.
Had he voted with his party it would have been 50 to 50 and Pence as Vice President can take the Chair and place a casting vote.
So Trump lost by one (of three) Senators not voting with the Party. | | | |
| A massive moment for the poor of the USA on 08:11 - Jul 28 with 5657 views | connorscontract |
| A massive moment for the poor of the USA on 06:52 - Jul 28 by ElderGrizzly |
Some of the US analysts are saying Trump's tweet to the Alaskan senator threatening her and her state probably lost it, as she was most likely to turn.
Hopefully they can find a true solution to healthcare for these poorer Americans, not this rich man's tax break Turtle Neck was trying to push through.
And of course Trump previously said this about 'hero' McCain
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Yes, I remember it well. Revenge is a dish best served cold... | | | |
| A massive moment for the poor of the USA on 08:15 - Jul 28 with 5651 views | factual_blue |
| A massive moment for the poor of the USA on 06:36 - Jul 28 by connorscontract |
McCain came good!
Trump's repeal fails.
Twitter gonna be great today! All yours Mr President... take it away please...
McCain fake Senator and fake War Hero! Fake vote! CNN! Blub! |
Revenge is a dish best served cold. trump once observed of McCain that he preferred war heroes who didn't get captured.
This is worth a read
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-40485357 |  |
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| A massive moment for the poor of the USA on 08:17 - Jul 28 with 5639 views | factual_blue |
| A massive moment for the poor of the USA on 08:11 - Jul 28 by connorscontract |
Yes, I remember it well. Revenge is a dish best served cold... |
Whoops - didn't see this before I posted basically the same thing. Great minds, innit. | |
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| A massive moment for the poor of the USA on 08:31 - Jul 28 with 5592 views | factual_blue |
| A massive moment for the poor of the USA on 08:09 - Jul 28 by connorscontract |
If McCain had not turned up it would have been 49 to repeal, 50 to keep.
With him voting to keep, it was 49 repeal to 51 keep.
Had he voted with his party it would have been 50 to 50 and Pence as Vice President can take the Chair and place a casting vote.
So Trump lost by one (of three) Senators not voting with the Party. |
A casting vote should, in all votes be used to defeat a change so that the motion can be put again, which is perfectly logical and right. Not the sort of nicety that bothers trumpy-wumpy.
By the way, does anybody on here still think he's great? | |
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| A massive moment for the poor of the USA on 08:32 - Jul 28 with 5585 views | ElderGrizzly |
| A massive moment for the poor of the USA on 08:17 - Jul 28 by factual_blue |
Whoops - didn't see this before I posted basically the same thing. Great minds, innit. |
Trump wumpy is upset
Typically, he now wants people to suffer, rather than find a way to help the poor and uninsured | | | |
| A massive moment for the poor of the USA on 09:15 - Jul 28 with 5516 views | No9 |
Could & can't ever understand a nation that doesn't want decent health care - apart from the fact some could get very rich (going to happen here) on the American system. | | | |
| A massive moment for the poor of the USA on 09:45 - Jul 28 with 5477 views | BlueBadger |
| A massive moment for the poor of the USA on 09:15 - Jul 28 by No9 |
Could & can't ever understand a nation that doesn't want decent health care - apart from the fact some could get very rich (going to happen here) on the American system. |
Because 'communism', apparently. |  |
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| A massive moment for the poor of the USA on 09:47 - Jul 28 with 5470 views | ElderGrizzly |
| A massive moment for the poor of the USA on 09:45 - Jul 28 by BlueBadger |
Because 'communism', apparently. |
And when idiots like Ted Cruz peddle lies like this
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| A massive moment for the poor of the USA on 09:49 - Jul 28 with 5469 views | BlueBadger |
| A massive moment for the poor of the USA on 09:47 - Jul 28 by ElderGrizzly |
And when idiots like Ted Cruz peddle lies like this
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I like how these pricks are always 'pro-life' when it comes to people with no quality of life or collections of cells in wombs, but not when it comes to say, rape victims, poor people or people from ethnic minorities.
It's also pretty bloody disingenuous of him to be equating an indpendent judiciary with 'the government'. [Post edited 28 Jul 2017 9:50]
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| A massive moment for the poor of the USA on 10:12 - Jul 28 with 5423 views | factual_blue |
| A massive moment for the poor of the USA on 09:49 - Jul 28 by BlueBadger |
I like how these pricks are always 'pro-life' when it comes to people with no quality of life or collections of cells in wombs, but not when it comes to say, rape victims, poor people or people from ethnic minorities.
It's also pretty bloody disingenuous of him to be equating an indpendent judiciary with 'the government'. [Post edited 28 Jul 2017 9:50]
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It's not disingenuous, it's ignorance. He is really stupid, but at least his election pushes the brexit vote into second place as 'most ignorant piece of voting 2016'. | |
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| A massive moment for the poor of the USA on 10:15 - Jul 28 with 5413 views | BlueBadger |
| A massive moment for the poor of the USA on 10:12 - Jul 28 by factual_blue |
It's not disingenuous, it's ignorance. He is really stupid, but at least his election pushes the brexit vote into second place as 'most ignorant piece of voting 2016'. |
My favourite thing this week is seeing wingnuts the world over using the Gard case as proof that universal/socialised healthcare is A Bad Thing, whilst ignoring the fact that without it, the poor little b*gger wouldn't have lasted this long as he'd have either been denied care on the 'pre-existing condition' grounds or the costs of 9 months' worth of level 3 care would have bankrupted his parents long before it got to this point. [Post edited 28 Jul 2017 10:30]
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| A massive moment for the poor of the USA on 10:19 - Jul 28 with 5401 views | factual_blue |
| A massive moment for the poor of the USA on 10:15 - Jul 28 by BlueBadger |
My favourite thing this week is seeing wingnuts the world over using the Gard case as proof that universal/socialised healthcare is A Bad Thing, whilst ignoring the fact that without it, the poor little b*gger wouldn't have lasted this long as he'd have either been denied care on the 'pre-existing condition' grounds or the costs of 9 months' worth of level 3 care would have bankrupted his parents long before it got to this point. [Post edited 28 Jul 2017 10:30]
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An interesting piece in this week's Private Eye. The torrent of pieces in the daily mail about brave little Charlie are all written by the same journalist. Except she isn't a mail journalist. She's the media agent and spokeswoman for the Gard family.
I wonder which newspaper has paid the Gard family a six figure sum for their story.....? | |
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| A massive moment for the poor of the USA on 10:22 - Jul 28 with 5387 views | No9 |
| A massive moment for the poor of the USA on 10:19 - Jul 28 by factual_blue |
An interesting piece in this week's Private Eye. The torrent of pieces in the daily mail about brave little Charlie are all written by the same journalist. Except she isn't a mail journalist. She's the media agent and spokeswoman for the Gard family.
I wonder which newspaper has paid the Gard family a six figure sum for their story.....? |
I presuming, coming from you that story is true.
It shows just how low the DM can sink to manufacture something like that is disgraceful | | | |
| A massive moment for the poor of the USA on 12:16 - Jul 28 with 5289 views | J2BLUE |
| A massive moment for the poor of the USA on 09:47 - Jul 28 by ElderGrizzly |
And when idiots like Ted Cruz peddle lies like this
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It makes my blood boil when deeply religious people say they'll pray for someone going through something like that. |  |
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| A massive moment for the poor of the USA on 13:21 - Jul 28 with 5238 views | No9 |
| A massive moment for the poor of the USA on 12:16 - Jul 28 by J2BLUE |
It makes my blood boil when deeply religious people say they'll pray for someone going through something like that. |
deeply religious people? | | | |
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