| Ipswich 150/1 to win the league with skybet 12:29 - Sep 27 with 6057 views | tortoise |
That's more than we were at the start of the season!?! I mean I don't think for a moment we will, but it's a bit weird! |  | | |  |
| Ipswich 150/1 to win the league with skybet on 12:32 - Sep 27 with 5594 views | Stenvict |
The bookies clearly don't rate us at all. Almost every game this season no matter how our opposition are doing, we've been bigger odds. Last night we were 7/5 on SkyBet. | |
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| Ipswich 150/1 to win the league with skybet on 12:36 - Sep 27 with 5572 views | Freddies_Ears |
So are there still decent odds on us avoiding the drop? Get in there! | | | |
| Ipswich 150/1 to win the league with skybet on 13:08 - Sep 27 with 5471 views | J2BLUE |
| Ipswich 150/1 to win the league with skybet on 12:32 - Sep 27 by Stenvict |
The bookies clearly don't rate us at all. Almost every game this season no matter how our opposition are doing, we've been bigger odds. Last night we were 7/5 on SkyBet. |
The bookies are neutral. Their prices are based on spreading risk. If people piled on us they'd shorten the odds. It's simply mass market opinion. No one believed in Huddersfield last season. No one believed in Leicester in their title winning season until late on. Both simply couldn't happen. That's the mass opinion on us. |  |
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| Ipswich 150/1 to win the league with skybet on 13:12 - Sep 27 with 5455 views | TJS |
I think the odds are shortened / lengthened quite a bit according to the number of divs lumping on their own team.
We probably have a lot less than Leeds. |  | | |
| Ipswich 150/1 to win the league with skybet on 13:13 - Sep 27 with 5442 views | J2BLUE |
| Ipswich 150/1 to win the league with skybet on 13:12 - Sep 27 by TJS |
I think the odds are shortened / lengthened quite a bit according to the number of divs lumping on their own team.
We probably have a lot less than Leeds. |
I have coined this the 'Liverpool Delusion' | |
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| Ipswich 150/1 to win the league with skybet on 13:33 - Sep 27 with 5392 views | tortoise |
| Ipswich 150/1 to win the league with skybet on 13:12 - Sep 27 by TJS |
I think the odds are shortened / lengthened quite a bit according to the number of divs lumping on their own team.
We probably have a lot less than Leeds. |
Well we're down to 100/1 so obviously some huge money has gone on us this morning! 😂 | | | |
| Ipswich 150/1 to win the league with skybet on 15:05 - Sep 27 with 5289 views | ITFCson |
This is great news for the smart gamblers as there is value to be had.
Still 10/1 to make top 6 with one firm....yes it probably wont happen but certainly there is more than a 10% chance it will.
We are currently priced at 9/4 vs Bristol City while they are around the 5/4 mark. Yes Bristol are on good form but still so much value in this bet.
Yesterday at half time the in play betting had us and Sunderland priced the same to score the next goal. Even the Sunderland fans would probably have conceded that we were the more likely and so it proved scoring the next 2 | | | |
| Ipswich 150/1 to win the league with skybet on 15:13 - Sep 27 with 5258 views | Illinoisblue |
| Ipswich 150/1 to win the league with skybet on 15:05 - Sep 27 by ITFCson |
This is great news for the smart gamblers as there is value to be had.
Still 10/1 to make top 6 with one firm....yes it probably wont happen but certainly there is more than a 10% chance it will.
We are currently priced at 9/4 vs Bristol City while they are around the 5/4 mark. Yes Bristol are on good form but still so much value in this bet.
Yesterday at half time the in play betting had us and Sunderland priced the same to score the next goal. Even the Sunderland fans would probably have conceded that we were the more likely and so it proved scoring the next 2 |
serious question, are there really smart gamblers? That is, people who make a living from gambling? |  |
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| Ipswich 150/1 to win the league with skybet on 15:40 - Sep 27 with 5213 views | The_Romford_Blue |
| Ipswich 150/1 to win the league with skybet on 15:13 - Sep 27 by Illinoisblue |
serious question, are there really smart gamblers? That is, people who make a living from gambling? |
Anyone in profit is a smart gambler |  |
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| Ipswich 150/1 to win the league with skybet on 15:45 - Sep 27 with 5200 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Ipswich 150/1 to win the league with skybet on 15:40 - Sep 27 by The_Romford_Blue |
Anyone in profit is a smart gambler |
Surely you meant "anyone who makes a profit believes they are a smart gambler" |  |
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| Ipswich 150/1 to win the league with skybet on 15:48 - Sep 27 with 5191 views | The_Romford_Blue |
| Ipswich 150/1 to win the league with skybet on 15:45 - Sep 27 by Pinewoodblue |
Surely you meant "anyone who makes a profit believes they are a smart gambler" |
No I mean anyone in profit is a smart gambler. | |
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| Ipswich 150/1 to win the league with skybet on 15:49 - Sep 27 with 5183 views | sundaze |
| Ipswich 150/1 to win the league with skybet on 13:08 - Sep 27 by J2BLUE |
The bookies are neutral. Their prices are based on spreading risk. If people piled on us they'd shorten the odds. It's simply mass market opinion. No one believed in Huddersfield last season. No one believed in Leicester in their title winning season until late on. Both simply couldn't happen. That's the mass opinion on us. |
Spot on. Plus they will have looked at who we have played and won against and who we still have to play. Bookies, unlike fans, will have seen little yet to make them change their minds and until punters start lumping big money on Town winning the league, the odds will stay high. |  | | |
| Ipswich 150/1 to win the league with skybet on 15:52 - Sep 27 with 5175 views | The_Romford_Blue |
| Ipswich 150/1 to win the league with skybet on 15:49 - Sep 27 by sundaze |
Spot on. Plus they will have looked at who we have played and won against and who we still have to play. Bookies, unlike fans, will have seen little yet to make them change their minds and until punters start lumping big money on Town winning the league, the odds will stay high. |
Some of us lumped on Town Top Half at 3/1 at the start of the season | |
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| Ipswich 150/1 to win the league with skybet on 15:54 - Sep 27 with 5168 views | J2BLUE |
| Ipswich 150/1 to win the league with skybet on 15:13 - Sep 27 by Illinoisblue |
serious question, are there really smart gamblers? That is, people who make a living from gambling? |
There are. Not many. I think there the accepted figure is that 2% are in profit over the long term and the amount of professional gamblers are a fraction of that.
I think a lot of disbelief comes from the misconception that people simply place bets and win money based on pure gambling. Professional gamblers are more like traders than gamblers in many cases and they rely on logical moves in the market like piling on a big 4 team in a Saturday evening game because people are chasing losses and the price comes in. They then trade out before the game starts for a profit. | |
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| Ipswich 150/1 to win the league with skybet on 15:55 - Sep 27 with 5169 views | ITFCson |
| Ipswich 150/1 to win the league with skybet on 15:13 - Sep 27 by Illinoisblue |
serious question, are there really smart gamblers? That is, people who make a living from gambling? |
There are probably a lot more smart gamblers than most realise. No doubt 99% of gamblers lose but that 1% that don't is still a large number.
I subscribe to a football tipster who has over a 5% ROI on football bets over the last 3 years and this is over a huge sample size...we are talking thousands of bets....Although the last 3 months or so have been bit of a stinker for him!
There are plenty of smart bets to be had, I guess maybe what defines a smart gambler is someone who only bets on the smart bets and restrains them self from giving it back by betting on the not so smart bets | | | |
| Ipswich 150/1 to win the league with skybet on 15:57 - Sep 27 with 5159 views | ITFCson |
| Ipswich 150/1 to win the league with skybet on 15:52 - Sep 27 by The_Romford_Blue |
Some of us lumped on Town Top Half at 3/1 at the start of the season |
And some of us were a little more ambitious (stupid maybe) and lumped on top 6 at 14's | | | |
| Ipswich 150/1 to win the league with skybet on 17:22 - Sep 27 with 5049 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Ipswich 150/1 to win the league with skybet on 15:55 - Sep 27 by ITFCson |
There are probably a lot more smart gamblers than most realise. No doubt 99% of gamblers lose but that 1% that don't is still a large number.
I subscribe to a football tipster who has over a 5% ROI on football bets over the last 3 years and this is over a huge sample size...we are talking thousands of bets....Although the last 3 months or so have been bit of a stinker for him!
There are plenty of smart bets to be had, I guess maybe what defines a smart gambler is someone who only bets on the smart bets and restrains them self from giving it back by betting on the not so smart bets |
You may wish to do a bit of reading into some of the claims of football tipsters, and the links the majority of them have to gambling firms
Not to obfuscate the point that there are indeed some very smart gamblers out there [Post edited 27 Sep 2017 17:23]
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| Ipswich 150/1 to win the league with skybet on 17:25 - Sep 27 with 5037 views | SpruceMoose |
| Ipswich 150/1 to win the league with skybet on 15:48 - Sep 27 by The_Romford_Blue |
No I mean anyone in profit is a smart gambler. |
Couldn't they just be lucky? |  |
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| Ipswich 150/1 to win the league with skybet on 17:29 - Sep 27 with 5024 views | ITFCson |
| Ipswich 150/1 to win the league with skybet on 17:22 - Sep 27 by C_HealyIsAPleasure |
You may wish to do a bit of reading into some of the claims of football tipsters, and the links the majority of them have to gambling firms
Not to obfuscate the point that there are indeed some very smart gamblers out there [Post edited 27 Sep 2017 17:23]
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This guy has no links. I think he is content receiving £50 a month from every single subscriber | | | |
| Ipswich 150/1 to win the league with skybet on 17:29 - Sep 27 with 5023 views | BergholtBru |
| Ipswich 150/1 to win the league with skybet on 15:13 - Sep 27 by Illinoisblue |
serious question, are there really smart gamblers? That is, people who make a living from gambling? |
Yes, always have been. |  |
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| Ipswich 150/1 to win the league with skybet on 23:40 - Sep 27 with 4816 views | Currie10 |
| Ipswich 150/1 to win the league with skybet on 12:32 - Sep 27 by Stenvict |
The bookies clearly don't rate us at all. Almost every game this season no matter how our opposition are doing, we've been bigger odds. Last night we were 7/5 on SkyBet. |
We were much bigger if you shopped around vs Sunderland.
If we're 150-1 with Sky, dread to think what the exchanges would float us at. |  | | |
| Ipswich 150/1 to win the league with skybet on 23:44 - Sep 27 with 4808 views | The_Romford_Blue |
| Ipswich 150/1 to win the league with skybet on 23:40 - Sep 27 by Currie10 |
We were much bigger if you shopped around vs Sunderland.
If we're 150-1 with Sky, dread to think what the exchanges would float us at. |
75 on the exchange | |
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| Ipswich 150/1 to win the league with skybet on 23:50 - Sep 27 with 4792 views | Wallingford_Boy |
| Ipswich 150/1 to win the league with skybet on 15:05 - Sep 27 by ITFCson |
This is great news for the smart gamblers as there is value to be had.
Still 10/1 to make top 6 with one firm....yes it probably wont happen but certainly there is more than a 10% chance it will.
We are currently priced at 9/4 vs Bristol City while they are around the 5/4 mark. Yes Bristol are on good form but still so much value in this bet.
Yesterday at half time the in play betting had us and Sunderland priced the same to score the next goal. Even the Sunderland fans would probably have conceded that we were the more likely and so it proved scoring the next 2 |
How on earth are Bristol City clear favourites to win at Portman Road?!
Sure, we're not as good as 6th place suggests, but they are hardly Real Madrid.
I find those odds.... odd. |  |
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| Ipswich 150/1 to win the league with skybet on 01:54 - Sep 28 with 4733 views | Currie10 |
| Ipswich 150/1 to win the league with skybet on 23:44 - Sep 27 by The_Romford_Blue |
75 on the exchange |
I find it difficult to believe ( can't check now ) that we're 150-1 with a bookie and 75s with the exchange. Would be the best arbitrated bet of the century if that's the case and anyone backing us / laying us would make a small pocket ! | | | |
| Ipswich 150/1 to win the league with skybet on 03:01 - Sep 28 with 4714 views | The_Romford_Blue |
| Ipswich 150/1 to win the league with skybet on 01:54 - Sep 28 by Currie10 |
I find it difficult to believe ( can't check now ) that we're 150-1 with a bookie and 75s with the exchange. Would be the best arbitrated bet of the century if that's the case and anyone backing us / laying us would make a small pocket ! |
Just had another look and it's definetely 75 to back and 120 to lay
The latter suggests that the bookie price this morning of 150/1 with skybet is probably now 100/1. But that's just an assumption the last line. | |
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