| Micks local Derby history as a manager 17:48 - Oct 16 with 7555 views | textbackup |
Makes really really poor reading, you'd naturally think he'd get his teams bang up for them, but in 19 local derbies (Sunderland, wolves, Ipswich) he's won 2! Drawn 5, lost 12
That's really surprises me |  |
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| Micks local Derby history as a manager on 17:50 - Oct 16 with 7038 views | Dennyx4 |
Didn't he get sacked after losing one, whilst at Wolves 5-0 to WBA |  | | |
| Micks local Derby history as a manager on 17:57 - Oct 16 with 7007 views | textbackup |
| Micks local Derby history as a manager on 17:50 - Oct 16 by Dennyx4 |
Didn't he get sacked after losing one, whilst at Wolves 5-0 to WBA |
5-1 believe, at home | |
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| Micks local Derby history as a manager on 18:06 - Oct 16 with 6983 views | StNeotsBlue |
His play off record is equally poor.
Hopefully Sunday will be different and we will win 17-0. [Post edited 16 Oct 2017 19:04]
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| Micks local Derby history as a manager on 18:09 - Oct 16 with 6976 views | Wacko |
Proper men |  |
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| Micks local Derby history as a manager on 18:18 - Oct 16 with 6952 views | itfcjoe |
Ditto - looked at it before and it really surprised me how poorly he’s done in Big one off games. Play offs and derby record really poor |  |
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| Micks local Derby history as a manager on 18:29 - Oct 16 with 6915 views | textbackup |
| Micks local Derby history as a manager on 18:18 - Oct 16 by itfcjoe |
Ditto - looked at it before and it really surprised me how poorly he’s done in Big one off games. Play offs and derby record really poor |
Glad you agree or it would look as tho I'm being anti MM LOL, but this was an actual observation.
I wonder if he gives off something that rubs off on the players, or if he just worries so much about losing that he makes poor choices | |
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| Micks local Derby history as a manager on 18:31 - Oct 16 with 6899 views | jaykay |
| Micks local Derby history as a manager on 18:18 - Oct 16 by itfcjoe |
Ditto - looked at it before and it really surprised me how poorly he’s done in Big one off games. Play offs and derby record really poor |
the only play off game of any sort he has won is against mighty iran |  |
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| Micks local Derby history as a manager on 18:39 - Oct 16 with 6869 views | monty_radio |
Football wisdom has it that such occasions owe much to passion. I wonder if safety first is an inappropriate response against fired up teams and crowds? Put it down to coincidence if you will, but 10% success requires some sort of explanation. | |
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| Micks local Derby history as a manager on 18:40 - Oct 16 with 6872 views | portmanking |
When you consider how much respect he pays to the opposition every week - talking them up to the high heavens - and the way he sets his sides up to negate the opposition, is it any wonder why his sides don't tend to make their mark on derby games?! | | | |
| Micks local Derby history as a manager on 18:58 - Oct 16 with 6830 views | itfcjoe |
| Micks local Derby history as a manager on 18:29 - Oct 16 by textbackup |
Glad you agree or it would look as tho I'm being anti MM LOL, but this was an actual observation.
I wonder if he gives off something that rubs off on the players, or if he just worries so much about losing that he makes poor choices |
Always feels as though he treats it as just another game which history suggests in these specific games it doesn’t work | |
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| Micks local Derby history as a manager on 19:00 - Oct 16 with 6818 views | Benters |
Lost 12?
Mick out! |  |
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| Micks local Derby history as a manager on 19:07 - Oct 16 with 6792 views | The_Romford_Blue |
| Micks local Derby history as a manager on 18:29 - Oct 16 by textbackup |
Glad you agree or it would look as tho I'm being anti MM LOL, but this was an actual observation.
I wonder if he gives off something that rubs off on the players, or if he just worries so much about losing that he makes poor choices |
On this one, it's a fair point.
I too have been suprised when seeing his derby games record. |  |
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| Micks local Derby history as a manager on 19:20 - Oct 16 with 6754 views | Pinewoodblue |
| Micks local Derby history as a manager on 19:07 - Oct 16 by The_Romford_Blue |
On this one, it's a fair point.
I too have been suprised when seeing his derby games record. |
Better than his cup record. |  |
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| Micks local Derby history as a manager on 19:22 - Oct 16 with 6748 views | SpruceMoose |
| Micks local Derby history as a manager on 19:00 - Oct 16 by Benters |
Lost 12?
Mick out! |
Benters Out! |  |
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| Micks local Derby history as a manager on 19:27 - Oct 16 with 6724 views | olimar |
| Micks local Derby history as a manager on 18:58 - Oct 16 by itfcjoe |
Always feels as though he treats it as just another game which history suggests in these specific games it doesn’t work |
Is this another aspect of his pragmatism v romanticism that rubs fans up the wrong way?
He always lets the context of the result dictate his approach- be it a cup game at Manchester United in a competition he doesnt believe we can win, a league game at Manchester United when he thinks the upcoming midweek fixture is more winnable, a derby match when a draw would be a good result for the league position.
As long as you deliver an end result that everyone accepts was worth it- promotion/avoiding relegation- then its all fine. But the problem comes when the end result isnt acceptable, or the benefit isnt perceptible to anyone. | | | |
| Micks local Derby history as a manager on 19:56 - Oct 16 with 6665 views | Garv |
If he tells his players similar to what he tells the fans, 'it's just another game, Celtic vs Rangers is bigger' etc then it's no surprise. He may not be doing that, in which case I don't know what the problem is.
As a fan you want players and manager to give their all and show some ambition in these games. Not many of Mick's games against them have screamed ambition to me. |  |
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| Micks local Derby history as a manager on 19:59 - Oct 16 with 6650 views | Reuser_is_God |
| Micks local Derby history as a manager on 18:31 - Oct 16 by jaykay |
the only play off game of any sort he has won is against mighty iran |
He never mentions that either... |  |
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| Micks local Derby history as a manager on 20:02 - Oct 16 with 6635 views | Reuser_is_God |
Better than his cup record | |
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| Micks local Derby history as a manager on 21:03 - Oct 16 with 6532 views | LankHenners |
| Micks local Derby history as a manager on 18:58 - Oct 16 by itfcjoe |
Always feels as though he treats it as just another game which history suggests in these specific games it doesn’t work |
I’d say that’s exactly it - taking the season a game at a time, looking at each one as no different to the last helps breed the sort of consistency which gets teams towards the top of the table. However, in the one-off games where you need to be that extra bit fired up, the above tactic falls apart if the opposition manager treats it like the special game it is as they can get the edge if they start with menace and you spend the whole match trying to pull yourself back into the game. |  |
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| Micks local Derby history as a manager on 21:16 - Oct 16 with 6505 views | Reuser_is_God |
| Micks local Derby history as a manager on 21:03 - Oct 16 by LankHenners |
I’d say that’s exactly it - taking the season a game at a time, looking at each one as no different to the last helps breed the sort of consistency which gets teams towards the top of the table. However, in the one-off games where you need to be that extra bit fired up, the above tactic falls apart if the opposition manager treats it like the special game it is as they can get the edge if they start with menace and you spend the whole match trying to pull yourself back into the game. |
Which is what has happened pretty much every time we've played them under MM.
Hopefully someone of Micks experience will have realised this & it'll be a bit different on Sunday &, of course, the crowd can help with this. | |
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| Micks local Derby history as a manager on 21:21 - Oct 16 with 6494 views | textbackup |
| Micks local Derby history as a manager on 21:16 - Oct 16 by Reuser_is_God |
Which is what has happened pretty much every time we've played them under MM.
Hopefully someone of Micks experience will have realised this & it'll be a bit different on Sunday &, of course, the crowd can help with this. |
I genuinely don't believe he'll do anything different, it'll be safety first and we'll be 1-0 down as they'll fly at us. | |
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| Micks local Derby history as a manager on 21:27 - Oct 16 with 6479 views | TractorWood |
| Micks local Derby history as a manager on 21:21 - Oct 16 by textbackup |
I genuinely don't believe he'll do anything different, it'll be safety first and we'll be 1-0 down as they'll fly at us. |
I want to think we can win it but know he will set up to negate and then feel our way through the game. This normally means we concede first and then battle our way to our draw as oppose to just attacking them from the outset. |  |
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| Micks local Derby history as a manager on 21:37 - Oct 16 with 6448 views | textbackup |
| Micks local Derby history as a manager on 21:27 - Oct 16 by TractorWood |
I want to think we can win it but know he will set up to negate and then feel our way through the game. This normally means we concede first and then battle our way to our draw as oppose to just attacking them from the outset. |
It's so obvious to so many. But they'll tell you that's not the case | |
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| Micks local Derby history as a manager on 21:50 - Oct 16 with 6423 views | itfcjoe |
| Micks local Derby history as a manager on 21:37 - Oct 16 by textbackup |
It's so obvious to so many. But they'll tell you that's not the case |
I don’t think that’s how we played against them last year - started really fast but they scored on their first attack after 20 odd minutes.
Game died out in 2nd half but, in what was a rarity last year, we started quickly | |
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| Micks local Derby history as a manager on 22:01 - Oct 16 with 6380 views | textbackup |
| Micks local Derby history as a manager on 21:50 - Oct 16 by itfcjoe |
I don’t think that’s how we played against them last year - started really fast but they scored on their first attack after 20 odd minutes.
Game died out in 2nd half but, in what was a rarity last year, we started quickly |
I can't remember that far back. however I do remember us not having many shots that game and that even though it was a local Derby I was bored | |
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