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Raqqa has fallen 13:59 - Oct 17 with 9553 viewsGuthrum

According to Kurdish/Syrian forces the last pockets of resistance in the Islamic State's "capital" have been taken. That leaves only a few towns in the middle Euphrates valley under their control (which Assad's Syrian Army are rapidly advancing through).

Good Lord! Whatever is it?
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Raqqa has fallen on 23:58 - Oct 17 with 2689 viewsRoyal_Blue

Who is going to manage Newcastle now then?
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Raqqa has fallen on 00:12 - Oct 18 with 2684 viewsGuthrum

Raqqa has fallen on 20:09 - Oct 17 by Bluesquid

That 7% figure comes from an article from Russia Today.


Who conducted their poll ... and how? I mean it's going to be pretty difficult to work out a representative sample, given the disparity (sectarian, political and cultural/ethnic) of those who have fled Syria, let alone reaching them.

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Raqqa has fallen on 01:36 - Oct 18 with 2661 viewsBluesquid

Raqqa has fallen on 00:12 - Oct 18 by Guthrum

Who conducted their poll ... and how? I mean it's going to be pretty difficult to work out a representative sample, given the disparity (sectarian, political and cultural/ethnic) of those who have fled Syria, let alone reaching them.


Well it doesn't really matter does it?

Because you will just say that those refugees that took part in the survey must of been predominantly pro-Assad Alawite Shias who are often pretty fond of massacres and atrocities themselves.
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Raqqa has fallen on 11:03 - Oct 18 with 2608 viewsstickymockwell

Well help him up then!

Give him a ball and a yard of grass
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Raqqa has fallen on 12:39 - Oct 18 with 2588 viewsBluesquid

Raqqa has fallen on 22:48 - Oct 17 by GlasgowBlue

UNHCR , Amnesty International.

Certainly not Putin's propaganda chanel.


"400 face-to-face interviews between February 12 and March 12, 2017 with Syrian refugees aged 18 to 24 living in camps and settlements in Jordan and Lebanon."

"Asked ‘Which of the following, if any, is the most important thing that needs to happen for you to be able to return to Syria?’

Two answers dominated the responses: 47 per cent said ‘the war ends’, while 25 per cent said ‘Daesh leaves Syria’. Trailing far behind were ‘the economic situation improves’, chosen by 8 per cent of the respondents, and ‘Bashar Al Assad leaves’, chosen by 7 per cent. "

http://arabyouthsurvey.com/syrian-refugees/index.html
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Raqqa has fallen on 12:14 - Oct 19 with 2544 viewsBluesquid

Raqqa has fallen on 12:39 - Oct 18 by Bluesquid

"400 face-to-face interviews between February 12 and March 12, 2017 with Syrian refugees aged 18 to 24 living in camps and settlements in Jordan and Lebanon."

"Asked ‘Which of the following, if any, is the most important thing that needs to happen for you to be able to return to Syria?’

Two answers dominated the responses: 47 per cent said ‘the war ends’, while 25 per cent said ‘Daesh leaves Syria’. Trailing far behind were ‘the economic situation improves’, chosen by 8 per cent of the respondents, and ‘Bashar Al Assad leaves’, chosen by 7 per cent. "

http://arabyouthsurvey.com/syrian-refugees/index.html


GlasgowBlue, do you accept these findings from the survey?
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Raqqa has fallen on 13:50 - Oct 19 with 2518 viewsGlasgowBlue

Raqqa has fallen on 12:14 - Oct 19 by Bluesquid

GlasgowBlue, do you accept these findings from the survey?


The survey was carried out by pubklic relations firm Burson-Marsteller. A quick google of Burson-Marsteller shows

https://corporatewatch.org/content/burson-marsteller-corporate-crimes

B-M has worked for a host of regimes with appalling human rights records including the notoriously repressive and corrupt government of Saudi Arabia, the Romanian dictator Nicolae Ceaucescu, and the governments of Sri Lanka and Singapore.

Now onto your survey. Since 2011 there have been some 5.1 million Syrians who have fled the country as refugees. This "survey" has spoken to just 400 of these people. That is just 0.007% of the refugees who have fled Syria.

You are a constant apologist for the Assad regimer on this board squidders. Tell me, do you accept the UN report that Assad has used chemical weapons on his own civillian population? Do you agree with this report from Human Rights Watch

https://www.hrw.org/report/2017/05/01/death-chemicals/syrian-governments-widespr

that Assad has used chemical weapons against his own civiillian population? Or do you comtinue to defend his governmnet and his acgttions?

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Raqqa has fallen on 14:20 - Oct 19 with 2506 viewsBluesquid

Raqqa has fallen on 13:50 - Oct 19 by GlasgowBlue

The survey was carried out by pubklic relations firm Burson-Marsteller. A quick google of Burson-Marsteller shows

https://corporatewatch.org/content/burson-marsteller-corporate-crimes

B-M has worked for a host of regimes with appalling human rights records including the notoriously repressive and corrupt government of Saudi Arabia, the Romanian dictator Nicolae Ceaucescu, and the governments of Sri Lanka and Singapore.

Now onto your survey. Since 2011 there have been some 5.1 million Syrians who have fled the country as refugees. This "survey" has spoken to just 400 of these people. That is just 0.007% of the refugees who have fled Syria.

You are a constant apologist for the Assad regimer on this board squidders. Tell me, do you accept the UN report that Assad has used chemical weapons on his own civillian population? Do you agree with this report from Human Rights Watch

https://www.hrw.org/report/2017/05/01/death-chemicals/syrian-governments-widespr

that Assad has used chemical weapons against his own civiillian population? Or do you comtinue to defend his governmnet and his acgttions?


Of the refugees questioned more were concerned about the economic situation than the chemical weapon using civilian slaughterer Assad, now that says quite alot really doesn't it?

Clearly, they do not see him as the problem do they? But we are told by the likes of you sitting in the UK that he is?

Assad is no angel, Syria under him took part in the CIA rendition program which the UK supported.
He is no worse than the other secular leader in the ME but a whole lot better that Saudi, Kuwait, UAE, Bahrain etc who the UK actually arm, support and have good relations with.

An apologst for Assad?
Well the best way to avoid a repeat of the disasters of Iraq and Libya where we were deceived (yes, that's right Libya as well, see the commons report) is to try to shine a light on the BS propaganda that is peddled from most of our politicans and media and people like you.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/libya-david-cameron-isis-islamic-s

I do not accept that he used chemical weapons.

Human Rights Watch?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/7987701/George-Soros-
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Raqqa has fallen on 14:32 - Oct 19 with 2494 viewsGlasgowBlue

Raqqa has fallen on 14:20 - Oct 19 by Bluesquid

Of the refugees questioned more were concerned about the economic situation than the chemical weapon using civilian slaughterer Assad, now that says quite alot really doesn't it?

Clearly, they do not see him as the problem do they? But we are told by the likes of you sitting in the UK that he is?

Assad is no angel, Syria under him took part in the CIA rendition program which the UK supported.
He is no worse than the other secular leader in the ME but a whole lot better that Saudi, Kuwait, UAE, Bahrain etc who the UK actually arm, support and have good relations with.

An apologst for Assad?
Well the best way to avoid a repeat of the disasters of Iraq and Libya where we were deceived (yes, that's right Libya as well, see the commons report) is to try to shine a light on the BS propaganda that is peddled from most of our politicans and media and people like you.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/libya-david-cameron-isis-islamic-s

I do not accept that he used chemical weapons.

Human Rights Watch?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/7987701/George-Soros-
[Post edited 19 Oct 2017 14:25]


So you don't accpet the evdice produced by the United Nations?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/sep/06/syrian-regime-dropped-sarin-on-reb

"Assad is no angel". That's like saying Sadam Hussien was a bit of a rascal.

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Raqqa has fallen on 14:44 - Oct 19 with 2489 viewsRadlett_blue

Raqqa has fallen on 14:20 - Oct 19 by Bluesquid

Of the refugees questioned more were concerned about the economic situation than the chemical weapon using civilian slaughterer Assad, now that says quite alot really doesn't it?

Clearly, they do not see him as the problem do they? But we are told by the likes of you sitting in the UK that he is?

Assad is no angel, Syria under him took part in the CIA rendition program which the UK supported.
He is no worse than the other secular leader in the ME but a whole lot better that Saudi, Kuwait, UAE, Bahrain etc who the UK actually arm, support and have good relations with.

An apologst for Assad?
Well the best way to avoid a repeat of the disasters of Iraq and Libya where we were deceived (yes, that's right Libya as well, see the commons report) is to try to shine a light on the BS propaganda that is peddled from most of our politicans and media and people like you.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/libya-david-cameron-isis-islamic-s

I do not accept that he used chemical weapons.

Human Rights Watch?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/7987701/George-Soros-
[Post edited 19 Oct 2017 14:25]


Please can you explain to me how the Assad regime in Syria is superior to that in Kuwait?

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Raqqa has fallen on 14:51 - Oct 19 with 2482 viewsBluesquid

Raqqa has fallen on 14:32 - Oct 19 by GlasgowBlue

So you don't accpet the evdice produced by the United Nations?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/sep/06/syrian-regime-dropped-sarin-on-reb

"Assad is no angel". That's like saying Sadam Hussien was a bit of a rascal.


Are the UN always right?

Do you not think it's possible that they may be wrong?

"a host of regimes with appalling human rights records including the notoriously repressive and corrupt government of Saudi Arabia"

This is the UN today...

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/sep/29/uk-and-saudi-arabia-in-secret-de
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Raqqa has fallen on 15:01 - Oct 19 with 2475 viewsBluesquid

Raqqa has fallen on 14:44 - Oct 19 by Radlett_blue

Please can you explain to me how the Assad regime in Syria is superior to that in Kuwait?


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Raqqa has fallen on 15:17 - Oct 19 with 2458 viewsRadlett_blue

Raqqa has fallen on 15:01 - Oct 19 by Bluesquid



Yes, like most Islamic states, Kuwait is not especially tolerant in matters of religion (although it is generally more tolerant than some). However, that still doesn't make its regime worse than Assad's - Kuwait has not massacred many of its citizens.

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Raqqa has fallen on 15:33 - Oct 19 with 2449 viewsBluesquid

Raqqa has fallen on 15:17 - Oct 19 by Radlett_blue

Yes, like most Islamic states, Kuwait is not especially tolerant in matters of religion (although it is generally more tolerant than some). However, that still doesn't make its regime worse than Assad's - Kuwait has not massacred many of its citizens.


Well thats fair enough, an error on my part for perhaps including them.

Superior over Kuwaits regime?

Under Kuwait's political system, the prime minister has always been a senior member of the ruling family appointed by the emir regardless of the outcome of an election.

In Syria -

Majority: Direct election, simple majority vote with preferential system.
Voters select one list from among a series of lists of parliamentary candidates. Two thirds of the candidates on each list are from the NPF, which itself is guaranteed 131 seats.
51% of the Deputies must be workers and farmers. The other 80 seats are allocated to independent candidates.
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