| Universal Credit stories on 09:05 - Oct 18 with 4219 views | factual_blue |
It is. I told one of our esteemed tory posters more than five years ago it would be an utter disaster. In many ways it's even worse.
The money it's costing you, by the way, is eye-wateringly obscene. |  |
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| Universal Credit stories on 09:08 - Oct 18 with 4214 views | Steve_M |
Comparing it to Stalin is inappropriate and will divert a load of people to complaining about that rather than the travesty of Universal Credit.
The incredible thing about UC though is that there were pilot schemes which demonstrated the exact problems that are now being seen nationally - delays in payment, hopeless bureaucracy, the inadequacy of the IT system. Instead of learning from the pilot schemes the government have ploughed on regardless, showing once again IDS is unfit to be making decisions about people's lives. |  |
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| Universal Credit stories on 09:11 - Oct 18 with 4197 views | StokieBlue |
That's a very distasteful comparison.
On UC specifically I do agree the whole situation seems to have been handled poorly. I should do some more reading around it when time allows.
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| Universal Credit stories on 09:12 - Oct 18 with 4200 views | hype313 |
| Universal Credit stories on 09:08 - Oct 18 by Steve_M |
Comparing it to Stalin is inappropriate and will divert a load of people to complaining about that rather than the travesty of Universal Credit.
The incredible thing about UC though is that there were pilot schemes which demonstrated the exact problems that are now being seen nationally - delays in payment, hopeless bureaucracy, the inadequacy of the IT system. Instead of learning from the pilot schemes the government have ploughed on regardless, showing once again IDS is unfit to be making decisions about people's lives. |
IDS is unfit to make a decision about going to the pub, let alone national social security. |  |
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| Universal Credit stories on 09:51 - Oct 18 with 4158 views | Guthrum |
UC was a not unreasonable concept which was trashed by interdepartmental shenanegans, politicking, ideology, poor drafting, inept planning, lack of funding and dreadfully bad execution. |  |
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| Universal Credit stories on 09:57 - Oct 18 with 4153 views | Guthrum |
| Universal Credit stories on 09:08 - Oct 18 by Steve_M |
Comparing it to Stalin is inappropriate and will divert a load of people to complaining about that rather than the travesty of Universal Credit.
The incredible thing about UC though is that there were pilot schemes which demonstrated the exact problems that are now being seen nationally - delays in payment, hopeless bureaucracy, the inadequacy of the IT system. Instead of learning from the pilot schemes the government have ploughed on regardless, showing once again IDS is unfit to be making decisions about people's lives. |
To be fair to IDS, I have it on tolerably good authority that he resigned precisely because other people's interference was fast making UC unworkable. I don't get the impression he ever intended it to be so harsh or cause problems to recipients. | |
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| Universal Credit stories on 10:37 - Oct 18 with 4087 views | Archer4721 |
| Universal Credit stories on 09:05 - Oct 18 by factual_blue |
It is. I told one of our esteemed tory posters more than five years ago it would be an utter disaster. In many ways it's even worse.
The money it's costing you, by the way, is eye-wateringly obscene. |
The telephone help line for claimants charge 55 pence a minute!
It's a really disgusting situation and does seem like a purge on poor people tbh.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/universal-credit-helpline-call-cha [Post edited 18 Oct 2017 10:41]
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| Universal Credit stories on 10:47 - Oct 18 with 4072 views | brazil1982 |
They've even got a sad dog picture in there! |  | | |
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| Universal Credit stories on 10:56 - Oct 18 with 4041 views | Archer4721 |
| Universal Credit stories on 09:11 - Oct 18 by StokieBlue |
That's a very distasteful comparison.
On UC specifically I do agree the whole situation seems to have been handled poorly. I should do some more reading around it when time allows.
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It's another great victory for Jeremy Corbyn who has pressurised the government over this in recent days.. | | | |
| Universal Credit stories on 12:16 - Oct 18 with 3984 views | factual_blue |
| Universal Credit stories on 09:57 - Oct 18 by Guthrum |
To be fair to IDS, I have it on tolerably good authority that he resigned precisely because other people's interference was fast making UC unworkable. I don't get the impression he ever intended it to be so harsh or cause problems to recipients. |
HMT has wanted to stop UC since before it started. | |
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| Universal Credit stories on 13:22 - Oct 18 with 3909 views | factual_blue |
| Universal Credit stories on 09:08 - Oct 18 by Steve_M |
Comparing it to Stalin is inappropriate and will divert a load of people to complaining about that rather than the travesty of Universal Credit.
The incredible thing about UC though is that there were pilot schemes which demonstrated the exact problems that are now being seen nationally - delays in payment, hopeless bureaucracy, the inadequacy of the IT system. Instead of learning from the pilot schemes the government have ploughed on regardless, showing once again IDS is unfit to be making decisions about people's lives. |
IDS is the nub of the problem. You've identified the issues that came up. He refused to be told and those who were willing to 'speak truth to power' were 'purged', to use the Stalinist metaphor.
IDS was, by the end of his tenure at DWP, the only person left there believing it would work. To mix dictators, he was like Hitler in the bunker, believing Army Group Steiner was coming to the rescue. | |
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| Universal Credit stories on 15:08 - Oct 18 with 3858 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
| Universal Credit stories on 10:56 - Oct 18 by Archer4721 |
It's another great victory for Jeremy Corbyn who has pressurised the government over this in recent days.. |
Another victory?
Mustve missed his last one. |  |
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| Universal Credit stories on 16:44 - Oct 18 with 3806 views | No9 |
| Universal Credit stories on 15:08 - Oct 18 by Marshalls_Mullet |
Another victory?
Mustve missed his last one. |
Just about everyone is rubbing Mrs May's nose in it aren't they? | | | |
| Universal Credit stories on 16:59 - Oct 18 with 3797 views | jeera |
Now scrapping that aren't they?
Been a lot of pressure over it, and rightly so of course. |  |
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| Universal Credit stories on 17:23 - Oct 18 with 3781 views | jaykay |
| Universal Credit stories on 09:51 - Oct 18 by Guthrum |
UC was a not unreasonable concept which was trashed by interdepartmental shenanegans, politicking, ideology, poor drafting, inept planning, lack of funding and dreadfully bad execution. |
echos of todays goverment |  |
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| Universal Credit stories on 18:53 - Oct 18 with 3740 views | FrowsyArmLarry |
It’s actually charged at local rate, unfortunately a lot of mobile plans don’t include 0845 numbers in their free minutes and charge anything up to 50p a minute to access them.... hence the 55p figure.
Good job they’ve changed that now but it was something that should have been avoided from the start |  | | |
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