| Soros wasn't the most popular with some of our previous posters on 13:59 - Oct 18 with 7029 views | BergholtBru |
Quite, many of the world`s rich do donate massive sums to charity. |  |
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| Soros wasn't the most popular with some of our previous posters on 14:13 - Oct 18 with 7004 views | WeWereZombies |
| Soros wasn't the most popular with some of our previous posters on 13:59 - Oct 18 by BergholtBru |
Quite, many of the world`s rich do donate massive sums to charity. |
Although, if you read the article, he is having some difficulty with the right wing ruling party in Hungary because of his stance on migration.
But true, a massive sum. Almost enough to cover the benefits bill of a very small nation for a year. |  |
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| Soros wasn't the most popular with some of our previous posters on 14:17 - Oct 18 with 6991 views | StokieBlue |
| Soros wasn't the most popular with some of our previous posters on 14:13 - Oct 18 by WeWereZombies |
Although, if you read the article, he is having some difficulty with the right wing ruling party in Hungary because of his stance on migration.
But true, a massive sum. Almost enough to cover the benefits bill of a very small nation for a year. |
That's a good thing surely? The fact that he is arguing with his compatriots about being right-wing and stopping immigration goes in his favour.
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| Soros wasn't the most popular with some of our previous posters on 14:22 - Oct 18 with 6978 views | WeWereZombies |
| Soros wasn't the most popular with some of our previous posters on 14:17 - Oct 18 by StokieBlue |
That's a good thing surely? The fact that he is arguing with his compatriots about being right-wing and stopping immigration goes in his favour.
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It is a good thing that he is establishing institutes with universal principles. Very honourable. I could be reading too much into BergholtBru's posts on other threads, or perhaps that spat about teachers has changed him? | |
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| Soros wasn't the most popular with some of our previous posters on 14:57 - Oct 18 with 6944 views | caught-in-limbo |
Go on then, I'll bite.
Some describe George Soros as a financial terrorist, others as a Robin Hood figure. I don't think he has a genuinely charitable bone in his body - if there's nothing in it for him, he doesn't give.
He bet against the pound in 1992 which contributed to the collapse of the Bank of England. I'm not saying his actions were illegal, but they were definitely unethical in my opinion. Some people will say that it was good for the country that we were out of the ERM, but he cost the country billions and he made a billion in the process for himself.
"build vibrant and tolerant democracies"
He breaks countries up by fomenting discord along ethnic, religious or cultural lines in countries, stable or otherwise. He gives big donations to support "democracy" in these areas even if his actions promote a cause which is illegal or unconstitutional in those countries. Although his donations to date have been small, he has also contributed to Catalan independence. I would be surprised if he doesn't make further donations to try to break up Spain.
There are many people all over the world who justifiably have every reason to moan about George Soros' generosity.
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| Soros wasn't the most popular with some of our previous posters on 15:00 - Oct 18 with 6934 views | J2BLUE |
| Soros wasn't the most popular with some of our previous posters on 14:17 - Oct 18 by StokieBlue |
That's a good thing surely? The fact that he is arguing with his compatriots about being right-wing and stopping immigration goes in his favour.
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He's an illuminati henchman. Then again, so is anyone with any power/fame whatsoever... |  |
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| Soros wasn't the most popular with some of our previous posters on 15:01 - Oct 18 with 6930 views | WeWereZombies |
| Soros wasn't the most popular with some of our previous posters on 14:57 - Oct 18 by caught-in-limbo |
Go on then, I'll bite.
Some describe George Soros as a financial terrorist, others as a Robin Hood figure. I don't think he has a genuinely charitable bone in his body - if there's nothing in it for him, he doesn't give.
He bet against the pound in 1992 which contributed to the collapse of the Bank of England. I'm not saying his actions were illegal, but they were definitely unethical in my opinion. Some people will say that it was good for the country that we were out of the ERM, but he cost the country billions and he made a billion in the process for himself.
"build vibrant and tolerant democracies"
He breaks countries up by fomenting discord along ethnic, religious or cultural lines in countries, stable or otherwise. He gives big donations to support "democracy" in these areas even if his actions promote a cause which is illegal or unconstitutional in those countries. Although his donations to date have been small, he has also contributed to Catalan independence. I would be surprised if he doesn't make further donations to try to break up Spain.
There are many people all over the world who justifiably have every reason to moan about George Soros' generosity.
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I was impressed that he had got Michael Ignatieff in to head up his university in Budapest. | |
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| Soros wasn't the most popular with some of our previous posters on 15:35 - Oct 18 with 6896 views | StokieBlue |
| Soros wasn't the most popular with some of our previous posters on 14:57 - Oct 18 by caught-in-limbo |
Go on then, I'll bite.
Some describe George Soros as a financial terrorist, others as a Robin Hood figure. I don't think he has a genuinely charitable bone in his body - if there's nothing in it for him, he doesn't give.
He bet against the pound in 1992 which contributed to the collapse of the Bank of England. I'm not saying his actions were illegal, but they were definitely unethical in my opinion. Some people will say that it was good for the country that we were out of the ERM, but he cost the country billions and he made a billion in the process for himself.
"build vibrant and tolerant democracies"
He breaks countries up by fomenting discord along ethnic, religious or cultural lines in countries, stable or otherwise. He gives big donations to support "democracy" in these areas even if his actions promote a cause which is illegal or unconstitutional in those countries. Although his donations to date have been small, he has also contributed to Catalan independence. I would be surprised if he doesn't make further donations to try to break up Spain.
There are many people all over the world who justifiably have every reason to moan about George Soros' generosity.
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Are you saying that nobody can ever trade against a currency? Do you buy EUR/GBP/USD at a rate which is high in the knowledge that you may use them at some point in the future because you are travelling?
He saw that the agreement the UK had entered into with regards to the ERM was completely unworkable and bet against it being a success. Fixed exchange rates between countries with completely different policies (especially as Germany was undergoing reunification) was never going to work. He did force us out of the ERM and made a good profit but it would have happened at some point anyway. The pound was devalued by 15% but it started a huge expansion of the UK economy and overall was better for the country than continuing down the ERM route.
You can certainly argue the ethics but the government of the time put the pound in the position where it could be attacked.
If he wanted to force the breakup of Spain why didn't he give all 18bn to Catalonia? I would be interested to hear what you think is in it for him?
I am sure he's far from perfect but surely it's better he gives away this money to a charity rather than hordes it himself?
Maybe it's because he's a lizard and one day he will pop out of his human suit for us all to see.
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| Soros wasn't the most popular with some of our previous posters on 15:47 - Oct 18 with 6876 views | caught-in-limbo |
| Soros wasn't the most popular with some of our previous posters on 15:35 - Oct 18 by StokieBlue |
Are you saying that nobody can ever trade against a currency? Do you buy EUR/GBP/USD at a rate which is high in the knowledge that you may use them at some point in the future because you are travelling?
He saw that the agreement the UK had entered into with regards to the ERM was completely unworkable and bet against it being a success. Fixed exchange rates between countries with completely different policies (especially as Germany was undergoing reunification) was never going to work. He did force us out of the ERM and made a good profit but it would have happened at some point anyway. The pound was devalued by 15% but it started a huge expansion of the UK economy and overall was better for the country than continuing down the ERM route.
You can certainly argue the ethics but the government of the time put the pound in the position where it could be attacked.
If he wanted to force the breakup of Spain why didn't he give all 18bn to Catalonia? I would be interested to hear what you think is in it for him?
I am sure he's far from perfect but surely it's better he gives away this money to a charity rather than hordes it himself?
Maybe it's because he's a lizard and one day he will pop out of his human suit for us all to see.
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I'd rather he kept his money to himself than provoke the break up of countries, communities and families all over the world in the name of "democracy". I don't call that charity. | |
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| Soros wasn't the most popular with some of our previous posters on 16:04 - Oct 18 with 6849 views | StokieBlue |
| Soros wasn't the most popular with some of our previous posters on 15:47 - Oct 18 by caught-in-limbo |
I'd rather he kept his money to himself than provoke the break up of countries, communities and families all over the world in the name of "democracy". I don't call that charity. |
"fomenting discord along ethnic, religious or cultural lines"
Surely the majority of families are aligned along one of those axis yet you say he is breaking up families? Countries I could accept, families seems like emotive language you've added.
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| Soros wasn't the most popular with some of our previous posters on 16:21 - Oct 18 with 6822 views | No9 |
The main gripe that I have with this is that it makes governments discard their natural duty of care for their citizens hoping that charities, either organised or as individuals, will do what they should be doing. |  | | |
| Soros wasn't the most popular with some of our previous posters on 16:53 - Oct 18 with 6811 views | caught-in-limbo |
| Soros wasn't the most popular with some of our previous posters on 16:04 - Oct 18 by StokieBlue |
"fomenting discord along ethnic, religious or cultural lines"
Surely the majority of families are aligned along one of those axis yet you say he is breaking up families? Countries I could accept, families seems like emotive language you've added.
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My language isn't emotive. If you've known any Irish, Basques or Catalans in your life, you'll know how independence struggles can break families. In fact you don't need to know anybody from these countries you just need to think a little bit more and overreact less. [Post edited 18 Oct 2017 17:38]
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| Soros wasn't the most popular with some of our previous posters on 16:54 - Oct 18 with 6805 views | SpruceMoose |
| Soros wasn't the most popular with some of our previous posters on 16:21 - Oct 18 by No9 |
The main gripe that I have with this is that it makes governments discard their natural duty of care for their citizens hoping that charities, either organised or as individuals, will do what they should be doing. |
Or... it's picking up the slack when those countries have already discarded their natural duty of care for their citizens? |  |
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| Soros wasn't the most popular with some of our previous posters on 16:56 - Oct 18 with 6799 views | StokieBlue |
| Soros wasn't the most popular with some of our previous posters on 16:53 - Oct 18 by caught-in-limbo |
My language isn't emotive. If you've known any Irish, Basques or Catalans in your life, you'll know how independence struggles can break families. In fact you don't need to know anybody from these countries you just need to think a little bit more and overreact less. [Post edited 18 Oct 2017 17:38]
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You didn't reply to the question of what is in it for him to do as you are claiming.
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| Soros wasn't the most popular with some of our previous posters on 17:11 - Oct 18 with 6779 views | No9 |
| Soros wasn't the most popular with some of our previous posters on 16:54 - Oct 18 by SpruceMoose |
Or... it's picking up the slack when those countries have already discarded their natural duty of care for their citizens? |
I have seen examples in Africa of cases where people were provided with items that should have been provided by government, came from other sources, the government just sat back & expected the other sources to continue looking after their people. | | | |
| Soros wasn't the most popular with some of our previous posters on 17:14 - Oct 18 with 6775 views | caught-in-limbo |
| Soros wasn't the most popular with some of our previous posters on 16:56 - Oct 18 by StokieBlue |
You didn't reply to the question of what is in it for him to do as you are claiming.
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That's right, I didn't, because I don't know.
But I'm sure it's really innocent and just down to his generous nature - I mean, I doubt there'd be anything in it for him. He probably went on holiday to Salou once, got chatting to a bloke in a pub about the evil, oppressive regime in Madrid which was ruining his very existence and thought he'd help out. | |
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| Soros wasn't the most popular with some of our previous posters on 17:17 - Oct 18 with 6771 views | StokieBlue |
| Soros wasn't the most popular with some of our previous posters on 17:14 - Oct 18 by caught-in-limbo |
That's right, I didn't, because I don't know.
But I'm sure it's really innocent and just down to his generous nature - I mean, I doubt there'd be anything in it for him. He probably went on holiday to Salou once, got chatting to a bloke in a pub about the evil, oppressive regime in Madrid which was ruining his very existence and thought he'd help out. |
So you don't have any motive for his actions or any statement from him on why he does things, you've just taken 2 and 2 and got 5.
Pretty much the standard M.O.
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| Soros wasn't the most popular with some of our previous posters on 17:36 - Oct 18 with 6755 views | caught-in-limbo |
| Soros wasn't the most popular with some of our previous posters on 17:17 - Oct 18 by StokieBlue |
So you don't have any motive for his actions or any statement from him on why he does things, you've just taken 2 and 2 and got 5.
Pretty much the standard M.O.
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You pointed out that I hadn't answered your question about why he'd given a small quantity of his money towards Catalan independence and I replied "That's right, I didn't, because I don't know."
Then you accuse me of taking 2 and 2 and getting 5.
If you're going to set little traps for me to fall into, you've got to wait until I fall into them before you can start celebrating.
Pretty much the standard M.O.
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| Soros wasn't the most popular with some of our previous posters on 18:03 - Oct 18 with 6702 views | SouthBucksBlue |
| Soros wasn't the most popular with some of our previous posters on 15:35 - Oct 18 by StokieBlue |
Are you saying that nobody can ever trade against a currency? Do you buy EUR/GBP/USD at a rate which is high in the knowledge that you may use them at some point in the future because you are travelling?
He saw that the agreement the UK had entered into with regards to the ERM was completely unworkable and bet against it being a success. Fixed exchange rates between countries with completely different policies (especially as Germany was undergoing reunification) was never going to work. He did force us out of the ERM and made a good profit but it would have happened at some point anyway. The pound was devalued by 15% but it started a huge expansion of the UK economy and overall was better for the country than continuing down the ERM route.
You can certainly argue the ethics but the government of the time put the pound in the position where it could be attacked.
If he wanted to force the breakup of Spain why didn't he give all 18bn to Catalonia? I would be interested to hear what you think is in it for him?
I am sure he's far from perfect but surely it's better he gives away this money to a charity rather than hordes it himself?
Maybe it's because he's a lizard and one day he will pop out of his human suit for us all to see.
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It's not really his money to give though is it. A simplified viewpoint is that unless you're selling a product or service which is of higher value to the acquirer than the cost to the producer then when you gain somebody loses. Hedge funds are just financial gambling instruments. When he made a billion from the pound, where did that money come from? Devalued pension funds, higher mortgage interest payments...?
Financial terrorist for me. An in my view unacceptable facet of a 'free market'. | | | |
| Soros wasn't the most popular with some of our previous posters on 19:14 - Oct 18 with 6653 views | J2BLUE |
| Soros wasn't the most popular with some of our previous posters on 17:36 - Oct 18 by caught-in-limbo |
You pointed out that I hadn't answered your question about why he'd given a small quantity of his money towards Catalan independence and I replied "That's right, I didn't, because I don't know."
Then you accuse me of taking 2 and 2 and getting 5.
If you're going to set little traps for me to fall into, you've got to wait until I fall into them before you can start celebrating.
Pretty much the standard M.O.
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You said above: if there's nothing in it for him, he doesn't give.
Now you can't say what's in it for him because you don't know.
I'd say you fell in that one. | |
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| Soros wasn't the most popular with some of our previous posters on 19:58 - Oct 18 with 6618 views | caught-in-limbo |
| Soros wasn't the most popular with some of our previous posters on 19:14 - Oct 18 by J2BLUE |
You said above: if there's nothing in it for him, he doesn't give.
Now you can't say what's in it for him because you don't know.
I'd say you fell in that one. |
It's my birthday on January 1st.
I know that my daughter won't get me nothing.
But I don't know what she'll get me.
I'm sure she knows what she's got me. How should I know?
I know Soros won't give if there's nothing in it for him.
He has given something, so I believe there's something in it for him - but I don't know what it is.
I'm sure he knows what's in it for him. Why should I know?
I've fallen for nothing. [Post edited 18 Oct 2017 20:01]
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| Soros wasn't the most popular with some of our previous posters on 20:11 - Oct 18 with 6596 views | J2BLUE |
| Soros wasn't the most popular with some of our previous posters on 19:58 - Oct 18 by caught-in-limbo |
It's my birthday on January 1st.
I know that my daughter won't get me nothing.
But I don't know what she'll get me.
I'm sure she knows what she's got me. How should I know?
I know Soros won't give if there's nothing in it for him.
He has given something, so I believe there's something in it for him - but I don't know what it is.
I'm sure he knows what's in it for him. Why should I know?
I've fallen for nothing. [Post edited 18 Oct 2017 20:01]
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That's a clever way of saying I have no proof so can't answer. | |
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| Soros wasn't the most popular with some of our previous posters on 20:16 - Oct 18 with 6588 views | SpruceMoose |
| Soros wasn't the most popular with some of our previous posters on 19:58 - Oct 18 by caught-in-limbo |
It's my birthday on January 1st.
I know that my daughter won't get me nothing.
But I don't know what she'll get me.
I'm sure she knows what she's got me. How should I know?
I know Soros won't give if there's nothing in it for him.
He has given something, so I believe there's something in it for him - but I don't know what it is.
I'm sure he knows what's in it for him. Why should I know?
I've fallen for nothing. [Post edited 18 Oct 2017 20:01]
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Yeah, that doesn't really work. | |
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| Soros wasn't the most popular with some of our previous posters on 20:18 - Oct 18 with 6586 views | caught-in-limbo |
| Soros wasn't the most popular with some of our previous posters on 20:11 - Oct 18 by J2BLUE |
That's a clever way of saying I have no proof so can't answer. |
OK, let's go through it:
Proof of what?
Can't answer what? | |
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| Soros wasn't the most popular with some of our previous posters on 20:19 - Oct 18 with 6584 views | caught-in-limbo |
| Soros wasn't the most popular with some of our previous posters on 20:16 - Oct 18 by SpruceMoose |
Yeah, that doesn't really work. |
Why not? | |
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