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World Cup finals draw 13:28 - Nov 16 with 25105 viewsSuperfrans

Takes place on December 1.
Who do we fancy in the draw? One team from each pot.

Pot 1: Russia, Germany, Brazil, Portugal, Argentina, Belgium, Poland, France
Pot 2: Spain, Peru, Switzerland, England, Colombia, Mexico, Uruguay, Croatia
Pot 3: Denmark, Iceland, Costa Rica, Sweden, Tunisia, Egypt, Senegal, Iran
Pot 4: Serbia, Nigeria, Australia, Japan, Morocco, Panama, South Korea, Saudi Arabia

For me, best draw would be: Russia, England, Iran, Australia.
Worst draw: Brazil, England, Iceland, Serbia.

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World Cup finals draw on 13:29 - Nov 16 with 11580 viewsCaptainObvious

why are spain in pot 2?

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World Cup finals draw on 13:30 - Nov 16 with 11575 viewsKieran_Knows

I think we all know we're going to get knocked out by Sweden in the last 16, so it's irrelevant with who we get in the group.

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World Cup finals draw on 13:31 - Nov 16 with 11569 viewsJ2BLUE

I'd like: Russia, Iran, Morocco

I'd hate: Brazil, Denmark, South Korea

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World Cup finals draw on 13:31 - Nov 16 with 11568 viewsSpruceMoose

World Cup finals draw on 13:29 - Nov 16 by CaptainObvious

why are spain in pot 2?


And why are Poland in Pot 1?

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World Cup finals draw on 13:31 - Nov 16 with 11568 viewsC_HealyIsAPleasure

Not sure I’d fancy Russia purely as on home soil. Plus I wouldn’t mind Iceland actually, you would hope lightning doesn’t strike twice

For me:
Best - Poland, Iran and Panama
Worst - Germany, Sweden and Serbia (not sure it’s actually possible to have 4 Euro teams in which case sub Brazil in for Germany)

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World Cup finals draw on 13:40 - Nov 16 with 11532 viewsThe_Romford_Blue

I think the only team England could beat from pot 1 is Russia. So hopefully them.

Spain would beat us in pot 2. Uruguay are not the team they were so is winnable. Same with Colombia. Don't know much about Peru. That suggests we should beat them. The Swiss, Mexico and Croatia we can win but they could quite easily win themselves. 50/50 games.

Sweden would be a tough game and best if avoided. Denmark, Egypt and Iceland are potential banan skins. We should be beating Costa Rica, Tunisia, Senegal and Iran.

Pot 4 is full of sides that would sit back for a point and England should be beating. The only one I'd say could be tricky in a group stage game from that lot is Nigeria. They look a useful team this time around. I'd want the Aussies or Morocco if I had a choice.





Ideal - Russia, Costa Rica and Morocco


Worst case - Germany, Sweden and Nigeria

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World Cup finals draw on 13:42 - Nov 16 with 11522 viewsSpruceMoose

Using this...

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/nov/16/world-cup-finals-create-your-ow

I got...

Brazil, England, Senegal, Serbia.

England predicted to get Belgium in the knock outs, and losing to them. Belgium go on to win the tournament.

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World Cup finals draw on 13:53 - Nov 16 with 11487 viewsStenvict

World Cup finals draw on 13:42 - Nov 16 by SpruceMoose

Using this...

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/nov/16/world-cup-finals-create-your-ow

I got...

Brazil, England, Senegal, Serbia.

England predicted to get Belgium in the knock outs, and losing to them. Belgium go on to win the tournament.


England beat Argentina in the final when I did it.

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World Cup finals draw on 13:55 - Nov 16 with 11478 viewsSpruceMoose

World Cup finals draw on 13:53 - Nov 16 by Stenvict

England beat Argentina in the final when I did it.


So we can safely judge it to be a pile of dung then.

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World Cup finals draw on 14:12 - Nov 16 with 11442 viewstextbackup

Whoever we get we'll scrape through to last 16, then fail miserably

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Realistically, unless we get... on 14:16 - Nov 16 with 11439 viewsBloots

....Russia or Poland out of pot 1, then we are going to struggle to qualify.

Poland would still be a problem to be honest.

Grim.

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We'd come bottom of that group. (n/t) on 14:16 - Nov 16 with 11431 viewsBloots

World Cup finals draw on 13:42 - Nov 16 by SpruceMoose

Using this...

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/nov/16/world-cup-finals-create-your-ow

I got...

Brazil, England, Senegal, Serbia.

England predicted to get Belgium in the knock outs, and losing to them. Belgium go on to win the tournament.



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World Cup finals draw on 14:19 - Nov 16 with 11426 viewsunstableblue

Best - Poland, England, Tunisia, Australia
Worst - Brazil, England, Costa Rica, Serbia

France and Germany would also be a nightmare

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World Cup finals draw on 14:19 - Nov 16 with 11425 viewsKing_of_Portman_Rd

World Cup finals draw on 13:29 - Nov 16 by CaptainObvious

why are spain in pot 2?


Pot 2 looks pretty strong.. As does majority of Pot 3 for that matter.

There is going to be the "Group of Death" or whatever they label it as that will probably have the 'best' of the 2nd and 3rd pot.

I'd love us to avoid Sweden and would be happy to get the chance to beat Australia in any sport. Portugal, Iran, Australia if I could pick them myself
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Why are England in pot 2? (n/t) on 14:20 - Nov 16 with 11424 viewsBloots

World Cup finals draw on 13:31 - Nov 16 by SpruceMoose

And why are Poland in Pot 1?



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World Cup finals draw on 14:25 - Nov 16 with 11404 viewsBackToRussia

Hope we get a hard group so we're out by game 2.

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World Cup finals draw on 14:30 - Nov 16 with 11395 viewsSuperfrans

World Cup finals draw on 13:29 - Nov 16 by CaptainObvious

why are spain in pot 2?


Didn't really clock that. That's bonkers, isn't it.

At least we won't play them... until later in the tournament.
Just weird not to have Italy there.

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World Cup finals draw on 14:42 - Nov 16 with 11372 viewsCaptainObvious

World Cup finals draw on 14:30 - Nov 16 by Superfrans

Didn't really clock that. That's bonkers, isn't it.

At least we won't play them... until later in the tournament.
Just weird not to have Italy there.


it will be those infamous fifa rankings i suspect. anything beyond the last 4 years will count for very little.

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World Cup finals draw on 14:44 - Nov 16 with 11367 viewsJakeITFC

World Cup finals draw on 13:40 - Nov 16 by The_Romford_Blue

I think the only team England could beat from pot 1 is Russia. So hopefully them.

Spain would beat us in pot 2. Uruguay are not the team they were so is winnable. Same with Colombia. Don't know much about Peru. That suggests we should beat them. The Swiss, Mexico and Croatia we can win but they could quite easily win themselves. 50/50 games.

Sweden would be a tough game and best if avoided. Denmark, Egypt and Iceland are potential banan skins. We should be beating Costa Rica, Tunisia, Senegal and Iran.

Pot 4 is full of sides that would sit back for a point and England should be beating. The only one I'd say could be tricky in a group stage game from that lot is Nigeria. They look a useful team this time around. I'd want the Aussies or Morocco if I had a choice.





Ideal - Russia, Costa Rica and Morocco


Worst case - Germany, Sweden and Nigeria


A lot of that is nonsense.
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World Cup finals draw on 14:48 - Nov 16 with 11358 viewsSpruceMoose

World Cup finals draw on 14:44 - Nov 16 by JakeITFC

A lot of that is nonsense.


Which bits?

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World Cup finals draw on 15:16 - Nov 16 with 11316 viewsThe_Romford_Blue

World Cup finals draw on 14:44 - Nov 16 by JakeITFC

A lot of that is nonsense.


You spelt 'an opinion' wrong

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World Cup finals draw on 15:19 - Nov 16 with 11304 viewsReuser_is_God

World Cup finals draw on 14:25 - Nov 16 by BackToRussia

Hope we get a hard group so we're out by game 2.


Wow.

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Why are England in pot 2? (n/t) on 15:22 - Nov 16 with 11292 viewsReuser_is_God

Why are England in pot 2? (n/t) on 14:20 - Nov 16 by Bloots



Because we qualified with an almost perfect record?

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World Cup finals draw on 15:30 - Nov 16 with 11269 viewsJ2BLUE

World Cup finals draw on 13:40 - Nov 16 by The_Romford_Blue

I think the only team England could beat from pot 1 is Russia. So hopefully them.

Spain would beat us in pot 2. Uruguay are not the team they were so is winnable. Same with Colombia. Don't know much about Peru. That suggests we should beat them. The Swiss, Mexico and Croatia we can win but they could quite easily win themselves. 50/50 games.

Sweden would be a tough game and best if avoided. Denmark, Egypt and Iceland are potential banan skins. We should be beating Costa Rica, Tunisia, Senegal and Iran.

Pot 4 is full of sides that would sit back for a point and England should be beating. The only one I'd say could be tricky in a group stage game from that lot is Nigeria. They look a useful team this time around. I'd want the Aussies or Morocco if I had a choice.





Ideal - Russia, Costa Rica and Morocco


Worst case - Germany, Sweden and Nigeria


You fear way too many sides. Not saying we're world beaters but we shouldn't fear anyone in pots 3 or 4. There are better sides like Denmark but we should be beating them. If we can't then we have no business in the knockout stages.

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World Cup finals draw on 15:40 - Nov 16 with 11247 viewsfactual_blue

World Cup finals draw on 15:19 - Nov 16 by Reuser_is_God

Wow.


He's just being brutally realistic.

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