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Jehovah's Witnesses sexual abuse 08:15 - Nov 20 with 5062 viewssolemio

If there is anyone surprised that these appalling people told victims to keep quiet so that the name of Jehovah was not besmirched you must be living in a fools' paradise. (BBC News Front Page)

Mind you, some Christian denominations are very little better than the Witnesses in this regard. JWs are not Christians as they do not believe Jesus Christ was God.
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Jehovah's Witnesses sexual abuse on 08:24 - Nov 20 with 4391 viewsimsureazzure

You are guilty of religious discrimination and a hate crime.
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Jehovah's Witnesses sexual abuse on 08:29 - Nov 20 with 4382 viewsGlasgowBlue

Blimey. Swap JWs for Muslims and Jehovah for Muhammad and see how long your post goes unchallenged.

You have condemned all members of a religion for the actions of a few.

"History is made, sadly, by people who are bystanders and do nothing. Their inaction is an excuse and a cover for intolerance".
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Jehovah's Witnesses sexual abuse on 08:31 - Nov 20 with 4374 viewsBluebell

Jehovah's Witnesses sexual abuse on 08:29 - Nov 20 by GlasgowBlue

Blimey. Swap JWs for Muslims and Jehovah for Muhammad and see how long your post goes unchallenged.

You have condemned all members of a religion for the actions of a few.


You beat me to it GB. I was going to say similar.
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Jehovah's Witnesses sexual abuse on 08:36 - Nov 20 with 4353 viewsBenters

Jehovah's Witnesses sexual abuse on 08:29 - Nov 20 by GlasgowBlue

Blimey. Swap JWs for Muslims and Jehovah for Muhammad and see how long your post goes unchallenged.

You have condemned all members of a religion for the actions of a few.


Indeed i was going to say the same, with a bit of Rotherham added in for good measure.

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Jehovah's Witnesses sexual abuse on 08:37 - Nov 20 with 4354 viewsbluelou

Wow.

PS I think a lot of religions would agree that Jesus wasn't God.

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Jehovah's Witnesses sexual abuse on 08:49 - Nov 20 with 4315 viewssolemio

Jehovah's Witnesses sexual abuse on 08:37 - Nov 20 by bluelou

Wow.

PS I think a lot of religions would agree that Jesus wasn't God.


Yes, but not Christian religions. Christians believe in the doctrine of the Trinity.
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Jehovah's Witnesses sexual abuse on 08:54 - Nov 20 with 4304 viewsDubtractor

Jehovah's Witnesses sexual abuse on 08:29 - Nov 20 by GlasgowBlue

Blimey. Swap JWs for Muslims and Jehovah for Muhammad and see how long your post goes unchallenged.

You have condemned all members of a religion for the actions of a few.


I'm not sure the "what about muslims" angle is necessary here.

The OP is offensive without needing to make comparisons.

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Jehovah's Witnesses sexual abuse on 08:54 - Nov 20 by Dubtractor

I'm not sure the "what about muslims" angle is necessary here.

The OP is offensive without needing to make comparisons.


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Jehovah's Witnesses sexual abuse on 09:07 - Nov 20 with 4246 viewssolemio

Jehovah's Witnesses sexual abuse on 08:29 - Nov 20 by GlasgowBlue

Blimey. Swap JWs for Muslims and Jehovah for Muhammad and see how long your post goes unchallenged.

You have condemned all members of a religion for the actions of a few.


One of the points of my post was that I feared there would be very little notice taken of this news compared with similar news concerning Muslims.

I don't hate Jehovah's Witnesses (I don't hate whole groups of people), but in my working life I saw the really bad effect that parents of that faith had on their children, 90% of whom were really unpleasant to other children.

I am not normally a prejudiced person, and I can think of no other group about whom I would have made such a statement. I try to judge folk as individuals not as members of any sort of group. I was probably ill-advised to make the post I did, and it was a prejudiced post, but I still feel it. Other religious denominations are not institutionally exclusive in the sense that they condemn non-believers in the way that JWs appear to me to do.

I shall quite understand if Admin do delete this thread.
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Jehovah's Witnesses sexual abuse on 09:07 - Nov 20 with 4245 viewsWD19

People linked with football did it too. All people who like football are clearly wrong 'uns.

Well either that, or you are a twonk of Morrisey proportions.....I'm not sure....
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Jehovah's Witnesses sexual abuse on 09:10 - Nov 20 with 4234 viewsDubtractor

Jehovah's Witnesses sexual abuse on 09:07 - Nov 20 by solemio

One of the points of my post was that I feared there would be very little notice taken of this news compared with similar news concerning Muslims.

I don't hate Jehovah's Witnesses (I don't hate whole groups of people), but in my working life I saw the really bad effect that parents of that faith had on their children, 90% of whom were really unpleasant to other children.

I am not normally a prejudiced person, and I can think of no other group about whom I would have made such a statement. I try to judge folk as individuals not as members of any sort of group. I was probably ill-advised to make the post I did, and it was a prejudiced post, but I still feel it. Other religious denominations are not institutionally exclusive in the sense that they condemn non-believers in the way that JWs appear to me to do.

I shall quite understand if Admin do delete this thread.


I know a number of JW's and they are, without exception, kind hearted and pleasant people.

I don't get their, or any other, faith but each to their own.

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Jehovah's Witnesses sexual abuse on 09:17 - Nov 20 with 4204 viewsBlueBadger

I have news for you. Atheists, as well as religious people are guilty of this as well.

These people are called idiots and BB is their leader.
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Jehovah's Witnesses sexual abuse on 09:22 - Nov 20 with 4191 viewssolemio

Jehovah's Witnesses sexual abuse on 09:10 - Nov 20 by Dubtractor

I know a number of JW's and they are, without exception, kind hearted and pleasant people.

I don't get their, or any other, faith but each to their own.


I am genuinely pleased to hear that your experience is better than mine.
I am quite prepared to believe that I have been unlucky (9 out of 11).

Despite the comments folk have made, and despite the fact that my op gave the wrong impression, I would deprecate anyone who condemned all members of a group for the actions of a few.

It is the official reaction of the senior JWs who didn't want the name of Jehovah besmirched that I would wish to condemn - ditto BBC in the cases of Savile, Stuart Hall and quite a lot of others.
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Jehovah's Witnesses sexual abuse on 09:51 - Nov 20 with 4129 viewssolemio

Jehovah's Witnesses sexual abuse on 09:17 - Nov 20 by BlueBadger

I have news for you. Atheists, as well as religious people are guilty of this as well.


Indeed, but they haven't got an Atheists' organisation covering up for them!
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Jehovah's Witnesses sexual abuse on 09:54 - Nov 20 with 4121 viewsBlueBadger

Jehovah's Witnesses sexual abuse on 09:51 - Nov 20 by solemio

Indeed, but they haven't got an Atheists' organisation covering up for them!


No, but they DO have friends, colleagues, professional bodies and employers...
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These people are called idiots and BB is their leader.
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Jehovah's Witnesses sexual abuse on 10:04 - Nov 20 with 4101 viewsgiant_ullaa

Jehovah's Witnesses sexual abuse on 09:51 - Nov 20 by solemio

Indeed, but they haven't got an Atheists' organisation covering up for them!


Blinded by bigotry.

There are wronguns in all walks of life and their organisations, be it work or otherwise, have often covered up their actions to protect reputations.

Has anyone ever looked at their own postings for last day or so? Oh my... so sorry.
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Jehovah's Witnesses sexual abuse on 10:05 - Nov 20 with 4096 viewsgiant_ullaa

Jehovah's Witnesses sexual abuse on 09:54 - Nov 20 by BlueBadger

No, but they DO have friends, colleagues, professional bodies and employers...
[Post edited 20 Nov 2017 9:59]


sorry for doubling up your point.

Has anyone ever looked at their own postings for last day or so? Oh my... so sorry.
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Jehovah's Witnesses sexual abuse on 10:06 - Nov 20 with 4085 viewsBlueBadger

Jehovah's Witnesses sexual abuse on 10:05 - Nov 20 by giant_ullaa

sorry for doubling up your point.


No worries. It never hurts to reinforce a sensible point, I find.

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Jehovah's Witnesses sexual abuse on 10:15 - Nov 20 with 4059 viewsfactual_blue

http://videos.sapo.pt/0hI7JzogBcpIp9Jnf0VC

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Jehovah's Witnesses sexual abuse on 10:34 - Nov 20 with 4022 viewssolemio

Jehovah's Witnesses sexual abuse on 10:04 - Nov 20 by giant_ullaa

Blinded by bigotry.

There are wronguns in all walks of life and their organisations, be it work or otherwise, have often covered up their actions to protect reputations.


Given that I totally agree with every word of your second paragraph I'm not quite sure why I need its truth over-emphasised to me.
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Jehovah's Witnesses sexual abuse on 11:43 - Nov 20 with 3947 viewsGeoffSentence

Jehovah's Witnesses sexual abuse on 09:10 - Nov 20 by Dubtractor

I know a number of JW's and they are, without exception, kind hearted and pleasant people.

I don't get their, or any other, faith but each to their own.


I am going to go all Kevin Beattie on you here, I agreee 100%.

I don't understand why people turn to religions but also like you all the JWs I have met have been thoroughly nice, decent people.

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Jehovah's Witnesses sexual abuse on 14:01 - Nov 20 with 3825 viewsElmswell_Blue

Jehovah's Witnesses sexual abuse on 08:29 - Nov 20 by GlasgowBlue

Blimey. Swap JWs for Muslims and Jehovah for Muhammad and see how long your post goes unchallenged.

You have condemned all members of a religion for the actions of a few.


Blimey GB - we agree on something!
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Jehovah's Witnesses sexual abuse on 14:10 - Nov 20 with 3810 viewsGlasgowBlue

Jehovah's Witnesses sexual abuse on 08:54 - Nov 20 by Dubtractor

I'm not sure the "what about muslims" angle is necessary here.

The OP is offensive without needing to make comparisons.


I think it's a fair compassion because we often hear or see instances where the majority of decent British Muslims are pilloried for the actions of a very small minority who carry out acts in the name of their religion.

By using a religion where the majority are often condemned for the actions of the few I thought it might help the op see how his post was wrong.

"History is made, sadly, by people who are bystanders and do nothing. Their inaction is an excuse and a cover for intolerance".
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Jehovah's Witnesses sexual abuse on 14:12 - Nov 20 with 3805 viewsGlasgowBlue

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You're trying too hard today libby.

"History is made, sadly, by people who are bystanders and do nothing. Their inaction is an excuse and a cover for intolerance".
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Jehovah's Witnesses sexual abuse on 14:33 - Nov 20 with 3773 viewsRyorry

Going to stick my neck out and say that whilst I fully appreciate you shouldn't have posted this, for all the reasons that others have said (stigmatising/stereotyping, labelling a group etc) - I can kinda understand where you're coming from.

I think many people have an instant reaction to Jehovahs Witnesses, as a result of being intrusively and inconveniently door-stepped by them, something which no other group of people in the UK does on behalf of their religion, as far as I'm aware. Such intrusiveness sets up negative views in the minds of many (including myself) to them as a group. Sorry, but that's a human reaction, tho of course it may well be overturned by individual JWs we come across in future who are *not* evangelising.

We do carry our experiences and memories through with us, they help form our reactions to people in later life, however unfairly. Personally I can never forget one other student in my year at college for social work training, who related his experiences of being brought up in an orphanage/school run by Jesuits. He was beaten and abused by them almost every day he was there, his hatred of them was palpable, and over 40 years later, I can still remember his face and his body language as he told us all that.

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