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The Ashes 2017/2018 Thread 16:47 - Nov 22 with 308213 viewsMaySixth

Phil - cheeky, but can you pin?? I know a fair few of us are interested in chatting about this as well as ITFC.

To kick start - series predictions?

I am going Australia 2-3 England.

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The Ashes 2017/2018 Thread on 08:22 - Dec 15 with 6216 viewsReuser_is_God

This is looking ominous.

I'd be surprised if the Aussies lose another wicket. I could probably score a few runs in a test match at Perth when the ball goes soft.

EDIT: Just that Root dropped Khawaja FFS
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The Ashes 2017/2018 Thread on 08:33 - Dec 15 with 6204 viewsHerbivore

The Ashes 2017/2018 Thread on 08:22 - Dec 15 by Reuser_is_God

This is looking ominous.

I'd be surprised if the Aussies lose another wicket. I could probably score a few runs in a test match at Perth when the ball goes soft.

EDIT: Just that Root dropped Khawaja FFS
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Khawaja looks like a wicket waiting to happen. Can't see Smith going anytime soon though.

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The Ashes 2017/2018 Thread on 08:52 - Dec 15 with 6186 viewsbluewein

The Ashes 2017/2018 Thread on 08:33 - Dec 15 by Herbivore

Khawaja looks like a wicket waiting to happen. Can't see Smith going anytime soon though.


Khawaja looks like a wicket waiting to happen, but he's up against a pretty clueless field at the moment.

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The Ashes 2017/2018 Thread on 08:56 - Dec 15 with 6185 viewsgainsboroughblue

Smith could go really big here. Unfortunately, Root was more preoccupied with bringing on Ali to get shot of Khawaja than to worry about the one man who could truly hurt us.

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The Ashes 2017/2018 Thread on 08:57 - Dec 15 with 6177 viewsReuser_is_God

The Ashes 2017/2018 Thread on 08:56 - Dec 15 by gainsboroughblue

Smith could go really big here. Unfortunately, Root was more preoccupied with bringing on Ali to get shot of Khawaja than to worry about the one man who could truly hurt us.


Root hasn't had a good day.

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The Ashes 2017/2018 Thread on 08:59 - Dec 15 with 6176 viewsgainsboroughblue

The Ashes 2017/2018 Thread on 08:57 - Dec 15 by Reuser_is_God

Root hasn't had a good day.


Now Overton looks injured

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The Ashes 2017/2018 Thread on 09:09 - Dec 15 with 6166 viewsReuser_is_God

The Ashes 2017/2018 Thread on 08:59 - Dec 15 by gainsboroughblue

Now Overton looks injured


Goes from bad to worse.

I now make us huge favourites to lose this game.

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The Ashes 2017/2018 Thread on 09:18 - Dec 15 with 6161 viewsTLA

The Ashes 2017/2018 Thread on 09:09 - Dec 15 by Reuser_is_God

Goes from bad to worse.

I now make us huge favourites to lose this game.


When we were 360 odd for 4 I thought losing was not likely. The collapse and the quick scoring rate means they could be 100 or more in front by the end of day 3.

Ooh, is the a wicket? Looks high.

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The Ashes 2017/2018 Thread on 09:20 - Dec 15 with 6155 viewsReuser_is_God

The Ashes 2017/2018 Thread on 09:18 - Dec 15 by TLA

When we were 360 odd for 4 I thought losing was not likely. The collapse and the quick scoring rate means they could be 100 or more in front by the end of day 3.

Ooh, is the a wicket? Looks high.

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Let's get another before the close.

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The Ashes 2017/2018 Thread on 09:25 - Dec 15 with 6155 viewsSamuelowen88

When was the last time the whole team acutally performed well?
We seem to always rely on one or 2 to play a blinder. If they all played to their abilities we'd be 2-0 !

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The Ashes 2017/2018 Thread on 09:27 - Dec 15 with 6148 viewsReuser_is_God

The Ashes 2017/2018 Thread on 09:25 - Dec 15 by Samuelowen88

When was the last time the whole team acutally performed well?
We seem to always rely on one or 2 to play a blinder. If they all played to their abilities we'd be 2-0 !


Cricket is very much an individual sport played as a team in fairness.

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The Ashes 2017/2018 Thread on 10:14 - Dec 15 with 6117 viewsReuser_is_God

203-3 at close then.

With Smith still there I'm say Aus are favourites. Huge first session tomorrow, we need 3/4 wickets to keep The Ashes alive.

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The Ashes 2017/2018 Thread on 10:53 - Dec 15 with 6107 viewschristiand

The Ashes 2017/2018 Thread on 10:14 - Dec 15 by Reuser_is_God

203-3 at close then.

With Smith still there I'm say Aus are favourites. Huge first session tomorrow, we need 3/4 wickets to keep The Ashes alive.


Over these two and a bit tests it has shown that the Aussies have a better bowling attack than our boys and that ultimately will be the difference.

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The Ashes 2017/2018 Thread on 11:08 - Dec 15 with 6104 viewsjimsymBLUE

The Ashes 2017/2018 Thread on 10:53 - Dec 15 by christiand

Over these two and a bit tests it has shown that the Aussies have a better bowling attack than our boys and that ultimately will be the difference.


And Smith (as much as it pains me to say it)...the blokes a phenom. Averages 62 (73 over the past 4 years)

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The Ashes 2017/2018 Thread on 13:21 - Dec 15 with 6058 viewschristiand

The Ashes 2017/2018 Thread on 11:08 - Dec 15 by jimsymBLUE

And Smith (as much as it pains me to say it)...the blokes a phenom. Averages 62 (73 over the past 4 years)


Yes he is a quality player, but Smith isn't having to face Starc, Cummins, Lyon and Hazelwood. I do think regarding the batting line ups there isn't much between them, but the bowling their is a huge chasm. The Aussies look like they can take 20 wickets due to their variety, we simply don't look capable of bowling them out twice - our bowlers all bowl at a similar speed and are all right handed, just too similar. Problem is who is out there who we can change them for? Our options are very limited, which is very depressing.
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The Ashes 2017/2018 Thread on 17:18 - Dec 15 with 6008 viewsRyorry

The Ashes 2017/2018 Thread on 07:58 - Dec 15 by Herbivore

Which is odd really as our tail have dug us out of some situations over the years. I think it shows what that extra 5mph is worth on quick wickets, they can't deal with the raw pace.


Did you hear the very interesting interval talk (think it was lunch? my times are all mixed up) about how the Aussies are coaching to put an extra 5mph on their fast bowlers? Worth hearing on catchup if not. IIrc, techniques such as slamming their trunks down into ground harder & using arms in more of a flicky slingshot action on delivery - not to mention faster run-ups!

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The Ashes 2017/2018 Thread on 23:43 - Dec 15 with 5962 viewsbournemouthblue

The Ashes 2017/2018 Thread on 09:18 - Dec 15 by TLA

When we were 360 odd for 4 I thought losing was not likely. The collapse and the quick scoring rate means they could be 100 or more in front by the end of day 3.

Ooh, is the a wicket? Looks high.

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We seem capable of a fatal collapse at any time

I fully expected us to balls it up from 300 - 4 and sure enough we've gone and lost 6 wickets for 34 runs

You don't win many test matches with batting like that

I expect the Aussies to get a lead of about 150 before finding us at some like 100 - 5 at the close of play this morning
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The Ashes 2017/2018 Thread on 01:25 - Dec 16 with 5945 viewscatch74

The Ashes 2017/2018 Thread on 10:14 - Dec 15 by Reuser_is_God

203-3 at close then.

With Smith still there I'm say Aus are favourites. Huge first session tomorrow, we need 3/4 wickets to keep The Ashes alive.


Yep, two final opportunities - early tomorrow and new ball. Broad needs to have one of his magic spells! Really worried I’m going to wake up to Smith on 200 odd and ashes more or less gone.
Fingers crossed for a great day of sport tomorrow!

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The Ashes 2017/2018 Thread on 02:24 - Dec 16 with 5930 viewsThe_Romford_Blue

G'd evening all


Should be a good watch this first session. Depending on how we play, I could be tempted into watching most of the day's play before my train leaves for FPR tomorrow

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The Ashes 2017/2018 Thread on 02:47 - Dec 16 with 5924 viewsgainsboroughblue

The Ashes 2017/2018 Thread on 02:24 - Dec 16 by The_Romford_Blue

G'd evening all


Should be a good watch this first session. Depending on how we play, I could be tempted into watching most of the day's play before my train leaves for FPR tomorrow


Hello Rommy.

Smith sitting on 98. Looks so untroubled. This could be the longest day of the tour.

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The Ashes 2017/2018 Thread on 02:52 - Dec 16 with 5921 viewsThe_Romford_Blue

The Ashes 2017/2018 Thread on 02:47 - Dec 16 by gainsboroughblue

Hello Rommy.

Smith sitting on 98. Looks so untroubled. This could be the longest day of the tour.


Evening Gainsborough. Hope you're well.

💯 up for Smith. A fantastic century from a fantastic batsman.

Unlike with Root, the captaincy has made Smith even better than what he was.


Yes this could be a tough day to watch. Though I think I've found a decent vetting angle on the Aussies scoring over a certain run rate in blocks of 15 overs. They're clearly going to continue at more than 3 an over. So at least I should make a bit of cash out the misery that will be Australian boundaries.

I predict a draw. As I said back on day 1 of the test match.

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The Ashes 2017/2018 Thread on 02:54 - Dec 16 with 5920 viewsTLA

The Ashes 2017/2018 Thread on 02:47 - Dec 16 by gainsboroughblue

Hello Rommy.

Smith sitting on 98. Looks so untroubled. This could be the longest day of the tour.


Morning.

Smith is absolute class - when he gets in, he just doesn't look movable. He's got his hundred and it would almost bed a surprise if it's not a double.

I think you're right about this being a long one...
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The Ashes 2017/2018 Thread on 02:55 - Dec 16 with 5920 viewsgainsboroughblue

The Ashes 2017/2018 Thread on 02:52 - Dec 16 by The_Romford_Blue

Evening Gainsborough. Hope you're well.

💯 up for Smith. A fantastic century from a fantastic batsman.

Unlike with Root, the captaincy has made Smith even better than what he was.


Yes this could be a tough day to watch. Though I think I've found a decent vetting angle on the Aussies scoring over a certain run rate in blocks of 15 overs. They're clearly going to continue at more than 3 an over. So at least I should make a bit of cash out the misery that will be Australian boundaries.

I predict a draw. As I said back on day 1 of the test match.


I suspect it's more likely to be a draw should the two first innings scores be in that 400 region. I think if Australia get a 150-200 lead, we could very easily crumble to a pathetic innings defeat given how momentum swings.

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The Ashes 2017/2018 Thread on 03:10 - Dec 16 with 5913 viewsThe_Romford_Blue

The Ashes 2017/2018 Thread on 02:55 - Dec 16 by gainsboroughblue

I suspect it's more likely to be a draw should the two first innings scores be in that 400 region. I think if Australia get a 150-200 lead, we could very easily crumble to a pathetic innings defeat given how momentum swings.


I predict 475 for the Aussies and then having a bowl at us tonight.


For the Aussies to win with the time remaining after that, that would probably require them getting us out for less than 250 and then chasing down 200 in the last two days.

Very doable.

Our second innings first four batsman need to stay in until lunch time on day four at the very very least. I think.


I love test cricket. It's so much better than the shirt formats.

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The Ashes 2017/2018 Thread on 03:19 - Dec 16 with 5909 viewsgainsboroughblue

The Ashes 2017/2018 Thread on 03:10 - Dec 16 by The_Romford_Blue

I predict 475 for the Aussies and then having a bowl at us tonight.


For the Aussies to win with the time remaining after that, that would probably require them getting us out for less than 250 and then chasing down 200 in the last two days.

Very doable.

Our second innings first four batsman need to stay in until lunch time on day four at the very very least. I think.


I love test cricket. It's so much better than the shirt formats.


It's quite clear that the differences in this series are

a) Smith
b) Pace
c) A spinner who can spin the ball

Our attack are trying wilfully but they look so unthreatening out there. No doubt, we'll have whoever is touring here in May (Pakistan I believe) 70-6 at lunch at Chester-le-Street and this tour will be forgotten.

We absolutely must start encouraging some young bowlers to bowl fast as outside the UK and possibly NZ, we are just completely nullified.

Do English players still play in other countries in the off season? They certainly used to but I suppose several of them now play the pyjama stuff instead for the bucks.

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