| Big fat Joe.... 09:37 - Dec 6 with 4457 views | itfcjoe |
https://royalbluemersey.sbnation.com/2017/12/5/16738928/everton-manager-latest-j
Could be a good Director of Football with the role he has been doing at Everton - I think Norwich bought him in as one at one point but he went back to Everton?
Geographically it may not work for him here, but if Mick is off I would be happy to have BFJ in an overseeing role on the football side of things if we were to bring in a more inexperienced manager |  |
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| Big fat Joe.... on 10:06 - Dec 6 with 4374 views | solemio |
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| Big fat Joe.... on 10:34 - Dec 6 with 4351 views | Darth_Koont |
I like the sound of a wise head to help out and let the manager just focus on coaching his squad.
Begs the question, what about that role for Mick himself after this year? |  |
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| Big fat Joe.... on 10:37 - Dec 6 with 4344 views | itfcjoe |
| Big fat Joe.... on 10:34 - Dec 6 by Darth_Koont |
I like the sound of a wise head to help out and let the manager just focus on coaching his squad.
Begs the question, what about that role for Mick himself after this year? |
I just don't think it is something that interests Mick, he still seems to enjoy being in the foreground with training, matches and the media side of things. Plus if his time here is up then I can't see him wanting to hang around.
But recruitment wise, he is still excellent. | |
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| Big fat Joe.... on 10:48 - Dec 6 with 4324 views | Darth_Koont |
| Big fat Joe.... on 10:37 - Dec 6 by itfcjoe |
I just don't think it is something that interests Mick, he still seems to enjoy being in the foreground with training, matches and the media side of things. Plus if his time here is up then I can't see him wanting to hang around.
But recruitment wise, he is still excellent. |
Yeah, I take your point.
On a related note, there's a very good Shankly documentary on iPlayer that talks about the difficulties when he retired but couldn't take a back seat. Great documentary. It also gives the proper context for his "football is more important than life and death" quote — it was about the importance to the community not some dry obsession with what happened out on the pitch or results. Many lessons for today's football. | |
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| Big fat Joe.... on 10:55 - Dec 6 with 4310 views | hype313 |
| Big fat Joe.... on 10:48 - Dec 6 by Darth_Koont |
Yeah, I take your point.
On a related note, there's a very good Shankly documentary on iPlayer that talks about the difficulties when he retired but couldn't take a back seat. Great documentary. It also gives the proper context for his "football is more important than life and death" quote — it was about the importance to the community not some dry obsession with what happened out on the pitch or results. Many lessons for today's football. |
I've been really surprised how Ferguson has taken retirement, to go from being in the limelight daily for 20 years at one of the biggest clubs in the world, to relative anonymity is quite an eye opener. |  |
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| Big fat Joe.... on 11:42 - Dec 6 with 4253 views | PJH |
| Big fat Joe.... on 10:55 - Dec 6 by hype313 |
I've been really surprised how Ferguson has taken retirement, to go from being in the limelight daily for 20 years at one of the biggest clubs in the world, to relative anonymity is quite an eye opener. |
According to a biography that I have got of him, Bill Shankly found retirement very difficult and very much regretted his decision.
He was forever turning up at the Liverpool training ground and (apparently) had to be politely told to stay away.
edit-regarding OP I think BFJ would be ideal but Everton will always be his true home. [Post edited 6 Dec 2017 11:45]
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| Big fat Joe.... on 11:47 - Dec 6 with 4244 views | ITFCBlues |
| Big fat Joe.... on 10:37 - Dec 6 by itfcjoe |
I just don't think it is something that interests Mick, he still seems to enjoy being in the foreground with training, matches and the media side of things. Plus if his time here is up then I can't see him wanting to hang around.
But recruitment wise, he is still excellent. |
Recruitment wise he’s excellent?
Did you see the players Everton signed in the summer!!?? Part of the reason they’re struggling at the wrong end of the table is their poor recruitment! Much like Spurs did with the Bale money... |  |
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| Big fat Joe.... on 11:49 - Dec 6 with 4234 views | PJH |
| Big fat Joe.... on 11:47 - Dec 6 by ITFCBlues |
Recruitment wise he’s excellent?
Did you see the players Everton signed in the summer!!?? Part of the reason they’re struggling at the wrong end of the table is their poor recruitment! Much like Spurs did with the Bale money... |
I think itfcjoe is referring to MM and not BFJ. | | | |
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| Big fat Joe.... on 11:50 - Dec 6 with 4233 views | itfcjoe |
| Big fat Joe.... on 11:47 - Dec 6 by ITFCBlues |
Recruitment wise he’s excellent?
Did you see the players Everton signed in the summer!!?? Part of the reason they’re struggling at the wrong end of the table is their poor recruitment! Much like Spurs did with the Bale money... |
I was talking about Mick.
Royle has had no say in their recruitment | |
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| Big fat Joe.... on 13:00 - Dec 6 with 4141 views | bluewein |
| Big fat Joe.... on 11:47 - Dec 6 by ITFCBlues |
Recruitment wise he’s excellent?
Did you see the players Everton signed in the summer!!?? Part of the reason they’re struggling at the wrong end of the table is their poor recruitment! Much like Spurs did with the Bale money... |
Steve Walsh did the recruiting.
Koemans final act was to blame Walsh for the terrible way his side were playing, such was his ego. |  |
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| Big fat Joe.... on 13:03 - Dec 6 with 4122 views | chicoazul |
Remember that time he paid out of his own pocket for the team and staff to stay in a hotel before a game as the club had literally no money? What a guy. |  |
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| Big fat Joe.... on 13:04 - Dec 6 with 4116 views | chicoazul |
| Big fat Joe.... on 10:55 - Dec 6 by hype313 |
I've been really surprised how Ferguson has taken retirement, to go from being in the limelight daily for 20 years at one of the biggest clubs in the world, to relative anonymity is quite an eye opener. |
Ferguson always had lots of interests outside of football, horses and wine for instance. Supposedly he didnt really do any training work for his last 4 or 5 years and was rarely seen at Carrington. [Post edited 6 Dec 2017 13:05]
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| Big fat Joe.... on 13:07 - Dec 6 with 4099 views | itfcjoe |
| Big fat Joe.... on 13:00 - Dec 6 by bluewein |
Steve Walsh did the recruiting.
Koemans final act was to blame Walsh for the terrible way his side were playing, such was his ego. |
It felt like everyone was still recruiting which was the problem.
Davy Klaasen seemed a Koeman signing
Gylfi Sigurdsson was a Walsh signing
Wayne Rooney was a Bill kenwright/Chinese owner signing
And then you are stuck with 3 number 10s who can't play together. Feels harsh to blame one person for it all when there was clearly different factions at play - probably why managerial appointment took so long. | |
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| Big fat Joe.... on 13:11 - Dec 6 with 4077 views | bluewein |
| Big fat Joe.... on 13:07 - Dec 6 by itfcjoe |
It felt like everyone was still recruiting which was the problem.
Davy Klaasen seemed a Koeman signing
Gylfi Sigurdsson was a Walsh signing
Wayne Rooney was a Bill kenwright/Chinese owner signing
And then you are stuck with 3 number 10s who can't play together. Feels harsh to blame one person for it all when there was clearly different factions at play - probably why managerial appointment took so long. |
Agree it does seem harsh on Walsh. Like I say, Koeman went into him and said it was all his fault.
I know quite a bit about what happened in those final few minutes of Koemans Everton career and it definitely ain't pretty. | |
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| Big fat Joe.... on 13:16 - Dec 6 with 4051 views | itfcjoe |
| Big fat Joe.... on 13:11 - Dec 6 by bluewein |
Agree it does seem harsh on Walsh. Like I say, Koeman went into him and said it was all his fault.
I know quite a bit about what happened in those final few minutes of Koemans Everton career and it definitely ain't pretty. |
He doesn't strike me as someone particularly pleasant, an ego the size of a country | |
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| Big fat Joe.... on 13:33 - Dec 6 with 4014 views | Steve_M |
| Big fat Joe.... on 13:16 - Dec 6 by itfcjoe |
He doesn't strike me as someone particularly pleasant, an ego the size of a country |
An impression he seemed to give as a player too. |  |
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| Big fat Joe.... on 13:39 - Dec 6 with 3989 views | bluewein |
| Big fat Joe.... on 13:33 - Dec 6 by Steve_M |
An impression he seemed to give as a player too. |
Barkley, Baines and Mirallas all told him they thought he was a twot to his face.
Edit: Needless to say, it didn't work out too well for them. [Post edited 6 Dec 2017 13:42]
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| Big fat Joe.... on 14:01 - Dec 6 with 3944 views | No9 |
You don't think that would be a backward step? | | | |
| Big fat Joe.... on 15:10 - Dec 6 with 3884 views | Wickets |
| Big fat Joe.... on 13:16 - Dec 6 by itfcjoe |
He doesn't strike me as someone particularly pleasant, an ego the size of a country |
Some might say thats a bit like Mick! |  | | |
| Big fat Joe.... on 16:13 - Dec 6 with 3830 views | Archer4721 |
There's absolutely no chance he would return here. |  | | |
| Big fat Joe.... on 03:44 - Dec 7 with 3685 views | harlingblue |
In the Notts Forest game, we looked like a MM/JR team, and how we enjoyed that.
MM now showing his real worth, BC bringing The Academy back up to scratch, perhaps JR could fulfill the roll of ME, (not as the paymaster) but the Director of football and face of ITFC?
An ex centre half and ex centre forward in harmony, that could work fine as a spine of the club? | | | |
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