Big fat Joe.... 09:37 - Dec 6 with 4458 views | itfcjoe | https://royalbluemersey.sbnation.com/2017/12/5/16738928/everton-manager-latest-j Could be a good Director of Football with the role he has been doing at Everton - I think Norwich bought him in as one at one point but he went back to Everton? Geographically it may not work for him here, but if Mick is off I would be happy to have BFJ in an overseeing role on the football side of things if we were to bring in a more inexperienced manager | |
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Big fat Joe.... on 10:06 - Dec 6 with 4375 views | solemio | Sorry, I down arrowed by mistake. | | | |
Big fat Joe.... on 10:34 - Dec 6 with 4352 views | Darth_Koont | I like the sound of a wise head to help out and let the manager just focus on coaching his squad. Begs the question, what about that role for Mick himself after this year? | |
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Big fat Joe.... on 10:37 - Dec 6 with 4345 views | itfcjoe |
Big fat Joe.... on 10:34 - Dec 6 by Darth_Koont | I like the sound of a wise head to help out and let the manager just focus on coaching his squad. Begs the question, what about that role for Mick himself after this year? |
I just don't think it is something that interests Mick, he still seems to enjoy being in the foreground with training, matches and the media side of things. Plus if his time here is up then I can't see him wanting to hang around. But recruitment wise, he is still excellent. | |
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Big fat Joe.... on 10:48 - Dec 6 with 4325 views | Darth_Koont |
Big fat Joe.... on 10:37 - Dec 6 by itfcjoe | I just don't think it is something that interests Mick, he still seems to enjoy being in the foreground with training, matches and the media side of things. Plus if his time here is up then I can't see him wanting to hang around. But recruitment wise, he is still excellent. |
Yeah, I take your point. On a related note, there's a very good Shankly documentary on iPlayer that talks about the difficulties when he retired but couldn't take a back seat. Great documentary. It also gives the proper context for his "football is more important than life and death" quote — it was about the importance to the community not some dry obsession with what happened out on the pitch or results. Many lessons for today's football. | |
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Big fat Joe.... on 10:55 - Dec 6 with 4311 views | hype313 |
Big fat Joe.... on 10:48 - Dec 6 by Darth_Koont | Yeah, I take your point. On a related note, there's a very good Shankly documentary on iPlayer that talks about the difficulties when he retired but couldn't take a back seat. Great documentary. It also gives the proper context for his "football is more important than life and death" quote — it was about the importance to the community not some dry obsession with what happened out on the pitch or results. Many lessons for today's football. |
I've been really surprised how Ferguson has taken retirement, to go from being in the limelight daily for 20 years at one of the biggest clubs in the world, to relative anonymity is quite an eye opener. | |
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Big fat Joe.... on 11:42 - Dec 6 with 4254 views | PJH |
Big fat Joe.... on 10:55 - Dec 6 by hype313 | I've been really surprised how Ferguson has taken retirement, to go from being in the limelight daily for 20 years at one of the biggest clubs in the world, to relative anonymity is quite an eye opener. |
According to a biography that I have got of him, Bill Shankly found retirement very difficult and very much regretted his decision. He was forever turning up at the Liverpool training ground and (apparently) had to be politely told to stay away. edit-regarding OP I think BFJ would be ideal but Everton will always be his true home. [Post edited 6 Dec 2017 11:45]
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Big fat Joe.... on 11:47 - Dec 6 with 4245 views | ITFCBlues |
Big fat Joe.... on 10:37 - Dec 6 by itfcjoe | I just don't think it is something that interests Mick, he still seems to enjoy being in the foreground with training, matches and the media side of things. Plus if his time here is up then I can't see him wanting to hang around. But recruitment wise, he is still excellent. |
Recruitment wise he’s excellent? Did you see the players Everton signed in the summer!!?? Part of the reason they’re struggling at the wrong end of the table is their poor recruitment! Much like Spurs did with the Bale money... | |
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Big fat Joe.... on 11:49 - Dec 6 with 4235 views | PJH |
Big fat Joe.... on 11:47 - Dec 6 by ITFCBlues | Recruitment wise he’s excellent? Did you see the players Everton signed in the summer!!?? Part of the reason they’re struggling at the wrong end of the table is their poor recruitment! Much like Spurs did with the Bale money... |
I think itfcjoe is referring to MM and not BFJ. | | | | Login to get fewer ads
Big fat Joe.... on 11:50 - Dec 6 with 4234 views | itfcjoe |
Big fat Joe.... on 11:47 - Dec 6 by ITFCBlues | Recruitment wise he’s excellent? Did you see the players Everton signed in the summer!!?? Part of the reason they’re struggling at the wrong end of the table is their poor recruitment! Much like Spurs did with the Bale money... |
I was talking about Mick. Royle has had no say in their recruitment | |
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Big fat Joe.... on 13:00 - Dec 6 with 4142 views | bluewein |
Big fat Joe.... on 11:47 - Dec 6 by ITFCBlues | Recruitment wise he’s excellent? Did you see the players Everton signed in the summer!!?? Part of the reason they’re struggling at the wrong end of the table is their poor recruitment! Much like Spurs did with the Bale money... |
Steve Walsh did the recruiting. Koemans final act was to blame Walsh for the terrible way his side were playing, such was his ego. | |
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Big fat Joe.... on 13:03 - Dec 6 with 4123 views | chicoazul | Remember that time he paid out of his own pocket for the team and staff to stay in a hotel before a game as the club had literally no money? What a guy. | |
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Big fat Joe.... on 13:04 - Dec 6 with 4117 views | chicoazul |
Big fat Joe.... on 10:55 - Dec 6 by hype313 | I've been really surprised how Ferguson has taken retirement, to go from being in the limelight daily for 20 years at one of the biggest clubs in the world, to relative anonymity is quite an eye opener. |
Ferguson always had lots of interests outside of football, horses and wine for instance. Supposedly he didnt really do any training work for his last 4 or 5 years and was rarely seen at Carrington. [Post edited 6 Dec 2017 13:05]
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Big fat Joe.... on 13:07 - Dec 6 with 4100 views | itfcjoe |
Big fat Joe.... on 13:00 - Dec 6 by bluewein | Steve Walsh did the recruiting. Koemans final act was to blame Walsh for the terrible way his side were playing, such was his ego. |
It felt like everyone was still recruiting which was the problem. Davy Klaasen seemed a Koeman signing Gylfi Sigurdsson was a Walsh signing Wayne Rooney was a Bill kenwright/Chinese owner signing And then you are stuck with 3 number 10s who can't play together. Feels harsh to blame one person for it all when there was clearly different factions at play - probably why managerial appointment took so long. | |
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Big fat Joe.... on 13:11 - Dec 6 with 4078 views | bluewein |
Big fat Joe.... on 13:07 - Dec 6 by itfcjoe | It felt like everyone was still recruiting which was the problem. Davy Klaasen seemed a Koeman signing Gylfi Sigurdsson was a Walsh signing Wayne Rooney was a Bill kenwright/Chinese owner signing And then you are stuck with 3 number 10s who can't play together. Feels harsh to blame one person for it all when there was clearly different factions at play - probably why managerial appointment took so long. |
Agree it does seem harsh on Walsh. Like I say, Koeman went into him and said it was all his fault. I know quite a bit about what happened in those final few minutes of Koemans Everton career and it definitely ain't pretty. | |
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Big fat Joe.... on 13:16 - Dec 6 with 4052 views | itfcjoe |
Big fat Joe.... on 13:11 - Dec 6 by bluewein | Agree it does seem harsh on Walsh. Like I say, Koeman went into him and said it was all his fault. I know quite a bit about what happened in those final few minutes of Koemans Everton career and it definitely ain't pretty. |
He doesn't strike me as someone particularly pleasant, an ego the size of a country | |
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Big fat Joe.... on 13:33 - Dec 6 with 4015 views | Steve_M |
Big fat Joe.... on 13:16 - Dec 6 by itfcjoe | He doesn't strike me as someone particularly pleasant, an ego the size of a country |
An impression he seemed to give as a player too. | |
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Big fat Joe.... on 13:39 - Dec 6 with 3990 views | bluewein |
Big fat Joe.... on 13:33 - Dec 6 by Steve_M | An impression he seemed to give as a player too. |
Barkley, Baines and Mirallas all told him they thought he was a twot to his face. Edit: Needless to say, it didn't work out too well for them. [Post edited 6 Dec 2017 13:42]
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Big fat Joe.... on 14:01 - Dec 6 with 3945 views | No9 | You don't think that would be a backward step? | | | |
Big fat Joe.... on 15:10 - Dec 6 with 3885 views | Wickets |
Big fat Joe.... on 13:16 - Dec 6 by itfcjoe | He doesn't strike me as someone particularly pleasant, an ego the size of a country |
Some might say thats a bit like Mick! | | | |
Big fat Joe.... on 16:13 - Dec 6 with 3831 views | Archer4721 | There's absolutely no chance he would return here. | | | |
Big fat Joe.... on 03:44 - Dec 7 with 3686 views | harlingblue | In the Notts Forest game, we looked like a MM/JR team, and how we enjoyed that. MM now showing his real worth, BC bringing The Academy back up to scratch, perhaps JR could fulfill the roll of ME, (not as the paymaster) but the Director of football and face of ITFC? An ex centre half and ex centre forward in harmony, that could work fine as a spine of the club? | | | |
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