| Disabled people affecting UK productivity apparently on 11:58 - Dec 7 with 2837 views | BanksterDebtSlave |
Not read it but he's probably being honest to a point. More likely down to the millions not now counted as unemployed scraping 16 hours of minimum wage work topped up with tax credits, zero hours etc....etc.
They all know this but politically are afraid to say so !
Edit.... Now read it, even Hammond isn't as "appalling" as John Mann. [Post edited 7 Dec 2017 12:01]
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| Disabled people affecting UK productivity apparently on 12:03 - Dec 7 with 2825 views | lowhouseblue |
but is his statement factually incorrect?:
"It is almost certainly the case that by increasing participation in the workforce, including far higher levels of participation by marginal groups and very high levels of engagement in the workforce, for example of disabled people - something we should be extremely proud of - may have had an impact on overall productivity measurements.” |  |
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| Disabled people affecting UK productivity apparently on 12:20 - Dec 7 with 2800 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Disabled people affecting UK productivity apparently on 12:03 - Dec 7 by lowhouseblue |
but is his statement factually incorrect?:
"It is almost certainly the case that by increasing participation in the workforce, including far higher levels of participation by marginal groups and very high levels of engagement in the workforce, for example of disabled people - something we should be extremely proud of - may have had an impact on overall productivity measurements.” |
I've no idea, but there will be stats somewhere that may show whether there's a link or not (EU probably have data on this).
Presumably he's sure of his position and can back up his statement. |  |
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| Disabled people affecting UK productivity apparently on 15:13 - Dec 7 with 2721 views | No9 |
| Disabled people affecting UK productivity apparently on 12:03 - Dec 7 by lowhouseblue |
but is his statement factually incorrect?:
"It is almost certainly the case that by increasing participation in the workforce, including far higher levels of participation by marginal groups and very high levels of engagement in the workforce, for example of disabled people - something we should be extremely proud of - may have had an impact on overall productivity measurements.” |
How do you measure productivity? |  | | |
| Disabled people affecting UK productivity apparently on 15:17 - Dec 7 with 2718 views | chicoazul |
| Disabled people affecting UK productivity apparently on 15:13 - Dec 7 by No9 |
How do you measure productivity? |
By using the agreed upon method of measuring productivity employed by every country in the western world. |  |
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| Disabled people affecting UK productivity apparently on 15:19 - Dec 7 with 2710 views | No9 |
| Disabled people affecting UK productivity apparently on 15:17 - Dec 7 by chicoazul |
By using the agreed upon method of measuring productivity employed by every country in the western world. |
Which is? | | | |
| Disabled people affecting UK productivity apparently on 15:34 - Dec 7 with 2704 views | DanTheMan |
| Disabled people affecting UK productivity apparently on 12:03 - Dec 7 by lowhouseblue |
but is his statement factually incorrect?:
"It is almost certainly the case that by increasing participation in the workforce, including far higher levels of participation by marginal groups and very high levels of engagement in the workforce, for example of disabled people - something we should be extremely proud of - may have had an impact on overall productivity measurements.” |
Well he says "may" have had an impact, which doesn't exactly strike me as someone who has any level of facts to back it up.
You could do something really basic like compare us to someone who has higher levels of disability employment and look at their productivity vs. ours to get an idea as to whether that's actually a good reason for low productivity. For example, our productivity is lower than France but they have a better rate of employment of the disabled than we do, at least it looked that way in a quick 5 minute check that I did. |  |
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| Disabled people affecting UK productivity apparently on 15:37 - Dec 7 with 2697 views | No9 |
| Disabled people affecting UK productivity apparently on 15:34 - Dec 7 by DanTheMan |
Well he says "may" have had an impact, which doesn't exactly strike me as someone who has any level of facts to back it up.
You could do something really basic like compare us to someone who has higher levels of disability employment and look at their productivity vs. ours to get an idea as to whether that's actually a good reason for low productivity. For example, our productivity is lower than France but they have a better rate of employment of the disabled than we do, at least it looked that way in a quick 5 minute check that I did. |
Mr Hammond is being both dishonest & disingenuous, it cam out in theparliamentary discussion last week when a tory back-bencher implored Mr Clark NOT to chnage the way in which the 'employed' are counted.
Te unemployment / employment figures are fiddled they should be counting the active & inactive | | | |
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| Disabled people affecting UK productivity apparently on 15:43 - Dec 7 with 2699 views | Darth_Koont |
So he's either saying that adding more workers that are disabled to the workforce is lowering overall productivity ... which can't be right.
Or he's saying that a workforce with proportionally more disabled people is less productive per person ... well, no sh!t! They're DISABLED.
Either way, what a w@nkclown. |  |
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| Disabled people affecting UK productivity apparently on 15:46 - Dec 7 with 2689 views | No9 |
| Disabled people affecting UK productivity apparently on 15:43 - Dec 7 by Darth_Koont |
So he's either saying that adding more workers that are disabled to the workforce is lowering overall productivity ... which can't be right.
Or he's saying that a workforce with proportionally more disabled people is less productive per person ... well, no sh!t! They're DISABLED.
Either way, what a w@nkclown. |
It really is a disgusting comment
& if the employers are doing their job properly it is untrue | | | |
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| Disabled people affecting UK productivity apparently on 17:21 - Dec 7 with 2620 views | No9 |
"Honestly, I'm starting to feel like almost nobody has any grip on reality anymore"
Unfortunately that is true but as we read daily, people don't care | | | |
| Disabled people affecting UK productivity apparently on 18:28 - Dec 7 with 2589 views | BlueBadger |
| Disabled people affecting UK productivity apparently on 17:21 - Dec 7 by No9 |
"Honestly, I'm starting to feel like almost nobody has any grip on reality anymore"
Unfortunately that is true but as we read daily, people don't care |
Archer levels of self-awareness, here. |  |
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| Disabled people affecting UK productivity apparently on 18:28 - Dec 7 by BlueBadger |
Archer levels of self-awareness, here. |
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| Disabled people affecting UK productivity apparently on 06:24 - Dec 8 with 2492 views | jeera |
| Disabled people affecting UK productivity apparently on 11:58 - Dec 7 by BanksterDebtSlave |
Not read it but he's probably being honest to a point. More likely down to the millions not now counted as unemployed scraping 16 hours of minimum wage work topped up with tax credits, zero hours etc....etc.
They all know this but politically are afraid to say so !
Edit.... Now read it, even Hammond isn't as "appalling" as John Mann. [Post edited 7 Dec 2017 12:01]
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And possibly people being found 'fit to work' who really aren't, and forced into jobs they're not capable of doing well by a system hell bent on reducing the number of 'scroungers'. |  |
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| Disabled people affecting UK productivity apparently on 08:20 - Dec 8 with 2464 views | solemio |
| Disabled people affecting UK productivity apparently on 18:28 - Dec 7 by BlueBadger |
Archer levels of self-awareness, here. |
Jeffrey or Robin Hood? | | | |
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