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Good people of TWTD 15:16 - Dec 10 with 51305 viewsBrixtonBlue

I'm thinking of giving up alcohol for a year. Am I mad? Will life not be worth living? Anyone done similar?

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Good people of TWTD on 11:24 - Dec 11 with 4758 viewsRyorry

Good people of TWTD on 11:17 - Dec 11 by blue_oyster

If you don’t know the side effects of cannabis, who is going to look after you if it fries your brain?


I'm the living evidence that using it had no side effects.

It didn't fry my brain, I have proof of that via the several years of OU studies & degree that I got later.

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Good people of TWTD on 11:25 - Dec 11 with 4754 viewsBackToRussia

Good people of TWTD on 11:24 - Dec 11 by Ryorry

I'm the living evidence that using it had no side effects.

It didn't fry my brain, I have proof of that via the several years of OU studies & degree that I got later.


Good stuff Ryorry. He'll now have to invent some absurd hypothesis as to why degrees have no value whatsoever.

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Good people of TWTD on 11:27 - Dec 11 with 4750 viewsRyorry

Good people of TWTD on 11:25 - Dec 11 by BackToRussia

Good stuff Ryorry. He'll now have to invent some absurd hypothesis as to why degrees have no value whatsoever.



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Good people of TWTD on 11:27 - Dec 11 with 4750 viewslowhouseblue

Good people of TWTD on 11:24 - Dec 11 by Ryorry

I'm the living evidence that using it had no side effects.

It didn't fry my brain, I have proof of that via the several years of OU studies & degree that I got later.


the scientific evidence* is that the risk is related to genetics and to age - it is much higher for those under 25.

* i know, i know, who cares about scientists and evidence.

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Good people of TWTD on 11:31 - Dec 11 with 4740 viewsRyorry

Good people of TWTD on 11:27 - Dec 11 by lowhouseblue

the scientific evidence* is that the risk is related to genetics and to age - it is much higher for those under 25.

* i know, i know, who cares about scientists and evidence.


It was when I was 24 that I mostly took it!! But in small doses, and not very frequently, which may have had more to do with it.

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Good people of TWTD on 11:33 - Dec 11 with 4730 viewsBackToRussia

Good people of TWTD on 11:27 - Dec 11 by lowhouseblue

the scientific evidence* is that the risk is related to genetics and to age - it is much higher for those under 25.

* i know, i know, who cares about scientists and evidence.


All drugs have characteristics like this. The doors of labs should be open rather than slammed shut to all drugs so we can determine their worth or risk properly, and not based on political ideology or stereotypical images of drugs.

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Good people of TWTD on 11:37 - Dec 11 with 4717 viewsblue_oyster

Good people of TWTD on 11:24 - Dec 11 by Ryorry

I'm the living evidence that using it had no side effects.

It didn't fry my brain, I have proof of that via the several years of OU studies & degree that I got later.


Wow, a new scientific approach. In the same way that smokers who don’t have cancer are the living proof that it’s harmless. Really with this drivel?

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wow on 11:42 - Dec 11 with 4701 viewsgiant_stow

wow on 11:19 - Dec 11 by blue_oyster



hes right dear. You write off cannabis so quickly as illegal but ignore other legal drugs that cause far more problems (the opiods epidemic in America, or booze here for example). use it.

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Good people of TWTD on 11:44 - Dec 11 with 4697 viewsBackToRussia

Good people of TWTD on 11:20 - Dec 11 by blue_oyster

Really? So how come morphine is so readily used?


Yes, really. Morphine is used because it is the only painkiller we have.

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Good people of TWTD on 11:46 - Dec 11 with 4685 viewsLord_Lucan

Good people of TWTD on 11:44 - Dec 11 by BackToRussia

Yes, really. Morphine is used because it is the only painkiller we have.


And bloody good it is to. I had to resort to Oramorph for a toothache recently.

Tremendous stuff.

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wow on 11:47 - Dec 11 with 4679 viewsblue_oyster

wow on 11:42 - Dec 11 by giant_stow

hes right dear. You write off cannabis so quickly as illegal but ignore other legal drugs that cause far more problems (the opiods epidemic in America, or booze here for example). use it.


He didn’t make a point. This was why it was so dull. I’m sure other legal drugs do cause major issues. But this wasn’t my point.

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Good people of TWTD on 11:48 - Dec 11 with 4679 viewsBackToRussia

Good people of TWTD on 11:46 - Dec 11 by Lord_Lucan

And bloody good it is to. I had to resort to Oramorph for a toothache recently.

Tremendous stuff.


Yes, really is a bit of a miracle drug. And from the latex of a poppy flower no less.

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Good people of TWTD on 11:52 - Dec 11 with 4667 viewsGlasgowBlue

Good people of TWTD on 08:34 - Dec 11 by StokieBlue

I know I would really miss wine, especially with my food as it does increase the eating experience (at least for me it does).

I also love ales so would miss that although I've never liked spirits which is where I fear a lot of the problems are encountered.

Luckily I'm not planning on giving up either of the first two anytime soon although I did do a dry January once.

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My taste buds changed because of it. I used to drink white wine but can't touch it now unless it has bubbles. I can only drink bottle beer and hate draught.

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wow on 11:58 - Dec 11 with 4650 viewsgiant_stow

wow on 11:47 - Dec 11 by blue_oyster

He didn’t make a point. This was why it was so dull. I’m sure other legal drugs do cause major issues. But this wasn’t my point.


For an independent thinker such as yourself, I'm just surprised you define a drug's value by whether its legal or not. That's why bringing in legal drugs is relevant. Also remember this is partly a territory thing too - I believe Cannabis *is* legal for medical uses in many US states.

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wow on 12:04 - Dec 11 with 4634 viewsblue_oyster

wow on 11:58 - Dec 11 by giant_stow

For an independent thinker such as yourself, I'm just surprised you define a drug's value by whether its legal or not. That's why bringing in legal drugs is relevant. Also remember this is partly a territory thing too - I believe Cannabis *is* legal for medical uses in many US states.


It's a very strong indicator on whether it's right or wrong to take it. What you're seeing in the US are the results of powerful drug lobbies trying to open the floodgates to legalise cannabis, for their own selfish profit.

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wow on 12:12 - Dec 11 with 4614 viewsBackToRussia

wow on 12:04 - Dec 11 by blue_oyster

It's a very strong indicator on whether it's right or wrong to take it. What you're seeing in the US are the results of powerful drug lobbies trying to open the floodgates to legalise cannabis, for their own selfish profit.


Can you explain what rigid scientific reasoning led to psilocybin being reclassified from a Cat C drug to a Cat A drug overnight on 2005? Or the same with cannabis from C to B. Or why the government sacked the head of one of the few scientific studies done on illegal drugs in the last 50 years.

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wow on 12:17 - Dec 11 with 4613 viewsgiant_stow

wow on 12:04 - Dec 11 by blue_oyster

It's a very strong indicator on whether it's right or wrong to take it. What you're seeing in the US are the results of powerful drug lobbies trying to open the floodgates to legalise cannabis, for their own selfish profit.


I can well believe you might be right about powerful drug's companies and their motivations to make more profit, but then can't you see how that'll apply to other legal drugs and keeping those legal too? ie ciggies, booze and Opiates?

I would say everyone has to make their own minds up, with legal matters only being one of the things to consider. For example, i wouldn't grow anything of my own as the paneltiies for getting caught seem oddly stiff. That makes no sense though as allowing the growth of Cannabis for personal use would at a stroke do away with organised crime being involved in that trade.
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Good people of TWTD on 12:52 - Dec 11 with 4570 viewsJohnny_Boy

Good people of TWTD on 10:50 - Dec 11 by Dyland

Same. I don't go to the pub if I'm not drinking. Long walks instead, and writing.

I've found staring into space is actually quite pleasant when sober.


Last week I agreed to help a friend out with some driving duties. Paid gig. Long story, but it involved driving from Berlin to Dortmund. 6hrs each way.

We departed yesterday at 11am. With hindsight, we should have left at 6am.

A huge snowstorm caused accidents on the motorway & we sat in gridlocked traffic for 4hrs.
Our original planned arrival time of 3pm ended up being more like 8pm. The journey ended up taking 16hrs door to door & I didn't get home to Berlin till 4am this morning.

The hire car was decent & I quite enjoyed the drive. Got me thinking if I ever decided to give up the booze - I'd happily drive to every away Town match + take a few others for petrol costs.
The only problem is, I love beer as much as I love footy. I know it's a thouroughly depressing statement, but i don't think I'd enjoy myself unless I had a stack of beers onboard the train, heading up to some far flung jaunt. Pathetic isn't it.
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wow on 13:02 - Dec 11 with 4555 viewsDanTheMan

wow on 12:04 - Dec 11 by blue_oyster

It's a very strong indicator on whether it's right or wrong to take it. What you're seeing in the US are the results of powerful drug lobbies trying to open the floodgates to legalise cannabis, for their own selfish profit.


The powerful drug lobbies trying to legalise something you can grow at home.

Yes, I can see why they'd love that. Definitely their MO.

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Good people of TWTD on 13:07 - Dec 11 with 4549 viewsHerbivore

Good people of TWTD on 11:27 - Dec 11 by lowhouseblue

the scientific evidence* is that the risk is related to genetics and to age - it is much higher for those under 25.

* i know, i know, who cares about scientists and evidence.


Yep, the latest research suggests there's a specific gene that places you at risk of developing mental health problems if you use cannabis in your younger years. If we had an informed approach to such matters we could educate people about this risk (including the prevalence of the gene) and work to avoid young people getting involved with cannabis when they are in those high risk years. Give it a decade or so and we'll probably all have our own genetic passport telling us what we may and may not be predisposed to and then if you have the risky gene you can simply avoid cannabis. Plenty of other good sh!t out there aside from cannabis.

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far from pathetic Johnners on 13:11 - Dec 11 with 4544 viewsDyland

Good people of TWTD on 12:52 - Dec 11 by Johnny_Boy

Last week I agreed to help a friend out with some driving duties. Paid gig. Long story, but it involved driving from Berlin to Dortmund. 6hrs each way.

We departed yesterday at 11am. With hindsight, we should have left at 6am.

A huge snowstorm caused accidents on the motorway & we sat in gridlocked traffic for 4hrs.
Our original planned arrival time of 3pm ended up being more like 8pm. The journey ended up taking 16hrs door to door & I didn't get home to Berlin till 4am this morning.

The hire car was decent & I quite enjoyed the drive. Got me thinking if I ever decided to give up the booze - I'd happily drive to every away Town match + take a few others for petrol costs.
The only problem is, I love beer as much as I love footy. I know it's a thouroughly depressing statement, but i don't think I'd enjoy myself unless I had a stack of beers onboard the train, heading up to some far flung jaunt. Pathetic isn't it.
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Especially bearing in mind we support ITFC ;)

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Good people of TWTD on 13:15 - Dec 11 with 4537 viewsDyland

Good people of TWTD on 11:25 - Dec 11 by BackToRussia

Good stuff Ryorry. He'll now have to invent some absurd hypothesis as to why degrees have no value whatsoever.


He's a deep thinker for sure.

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wow on 13:17 - Dec 11 with 4536 viewsblue_oyster

wow on 12:12 - Dec 11 by BackToRussia

Can you explain what rigid scientific reasoning led to psilocybin being reclassified from a Cat C drug to a Cat A drug overnight on 2005? Or the same with cannabis from C to B. Or why the government sacked the head of one of the few scientific studies done on illegal drugs in the last 50 years.


'Categories' of untested and harmful drugs are meaningless. There are mainly there for political purposes, which is why they move with no further knowledge on the subject. Drugs either have certain side effects or they don't.

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wow on 13:19 - Dec 11 with 4525 viewsblue_oyster

wow on 12:17 - Dec 11 by giant_stow

I can well believe you might be right about powerful drug's companies and their motivations to make more profit, but then can't you see how that'll apply to other legal drugs and keeping those legal too? ie ciggies, booze and Opiates?

I would say everyone has to make their own minds up, with legal matters only being one of the things to consider. For example, i wouldn't grow anything of my own as the paneltiies for getting caught seem oddly stiff. That makes no sense though as allowing the growth of Cannabis for personal use would at a stroke do away with organised crime being involved in that trade.
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Indeed, taking cannabis comes down to morals, which laws are derived from.

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wow on 13:21 - Dec 11 with 4518 viewsblue_oyster

wow on 13:02 - Dec 11 by DanTheMan

The powerful drug lobbies trying to legalise something you can grow at home.

Yes, I can see why they'd love that. Definitely their MO.


You can grow your own carrots at home, so I suspect that nobody goes out and buys them? Do you have any more stupid arguments?

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