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I'm as bored of Brexit as anyone but I'm going to keep sharing this sort of stuff because i think it's vitally important that we keep talking about the dangers and implications of Brexit for the country.
"Seeing banking jobs and manufacturing jobs relocate to rEU is only the start of it. What will kill the UK is the loss of tax revenue and foreign exchange earnings that will occur as a result of the relocation to Ireland and the Continent of financial services, as well as car making, aerospace, pharmaceuticals (all areas in which the UK excels — don’t believe the pundits who say “we don’t make anything anymore”. It is not true). No Government of any party will be politically able to make spending cuts or tax rises of the magnitude necessary to balance the books, so they will borrow and print money. This relies as Mark Carney once said on the kindness of strangers who will only lend for so long as they believe in the viability of the UK economy. Once investors see the economy fail, as exports tumble while imports continue to rise and the ability to earn vital foreign exchange declines, they will either stop lending altogether or demand extortionate interest rates which will only make the situation worse. An old fashioned Sterling crisis will follow. How will the UK Government respond? Expect another IMF bailout, just like the 1970s. Expect also exchange controls to come back, preventing UK nationals for taking their money abroad, and expect new rules on pensions requiring significant proportions of savings to be “invested” with the UK Government in the form of bonds. Needless to say this will sold to the public as reducing “risk” to them from volatile investments, but the interest rates will be very unfavourable as they always are for any compulsory investments. Ultimately expect these loans to the Government to be turned into life time annuities so hard earned savings never have to be paid back at all. Anyone arguing against all this will be deemed "unpatriotic". Expect benefits to be cut. The poor will suffer as they always do, but the middle classes used to a lifestyle of foreign holidays and German cars will be hardest hit of all. Read up about Britain in the 1970s, or Argentina 20 years ago, where living standards fell by half, people, were not able to access their bank accounts and US Dollar accounts were compulsory changed to worthless Pesos. The state will always survive, and they will happily destroy their people to protect the state. The current disregard for the interests of the economy by the current crop of politicians just goes to prove my point."
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Just to cheer everyone up - Brexit economic suicide on 18:40 - Dec 11 with 7106 views
Ah the Guardian - typical mumbo jumbo left wing rubbish!
Articles like this are when I really do miss Benters.
My thoughts on Brexit in a nutshell - yes I realise it isn't as simple as this, nothing ever is and there will be differences / agreements they have that we don't etc.
However, my 'words of wisdom' in a nutshell - if the EU was so damn efficient, then why the hell are Norway/ Switzerland - two of the smartest European nations not in it.
Short-term pain for long term gain.
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Just to cheer everyone up - Brexit economic suicide on 18:58 - Dec 11 with 7056 views
Just to cheer everyone up - Brexit economic suicide on 18:47 - Dec 11 by jaykay
so thats why dodgy davis didn't do any impact studies
They could do impact studies (subjective predictions) until the cows come home. Or they could just hurry up and get started. Nearly a year left, and they’ve still no clue.
Just to cheer everyone up - Brexit economic suicide on 18:56 - Dec 11 by Currie10
Ah the Guardian - typical mumbo jumbo left wing rubbish!
Articles like this are when I really do miss Benters.
My thoughts on Brexit in a nutshell - yes I realise it isn't as simple as this, nothing ever is and there will be differences / agreements they have that we don't etc.
However, my 'words of wisdom' in a nutshell - if the EU was so damn efficient, then why the hell are Norway/ Switzerland - two of the smartest European nations not in it.
Short-term pain for long term gain.
Norway and Switzerland of course, have quite comprehensive trade and diplomatic links to the EU. Just without the say. We'll likely a similar arrangements when we 'take back control'. Namely, that we'll still end up following EU rules, but have no say in what these rules should be. With the added bonus that we'll probably do some ludicrous trade deal wit the US which acts like TTIP on speed regarding the selling-off of public sector services to the Efficient Private Sector.
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I'm one of the people who was blamed for getting Paul Cook sacked. PM for the full post.
Just to cheer everyone up - Brexit economic suicide on 19:18 - Dec 11 by BlueBadger
Norway and Switzerland of course, have quite comprehensive trade and diplomatic links to the EU. Just without the say. We'll likely a similar arrangements when we 'take back control'. Namely, that we'll still end up following EU rules, but have no say in what these rules should be. With the added bonus that we'll probably do some ludicrous trade deal wit the US which acts like TTIP on speed regarding the selling-off of public sector services to the Efficient Private Sector.
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Indeed. Norway pays into the EU and abides by the EU rules, including freedom of movement.
Just to cheer everyone up - Brexit economic suicide on 19:18 - Dec 11 by BlueBadger
Norway and Switzerland of course, have quite comprehensive trade and diplomatic links to the EU. Just without the say. We'll likely a similar arrangements when we 'take back control'. Namely, that we'll still end up following EU rules, but have no say in what these rules should be. With the added bonus that we'll probably do some ludicrous trade deal wit the US which acts like TTIP on speed regarding the selling-off of public sector services to the Efficient Private Sector.
Just to cheer everyone up - Brexit economic suicide on 19:18 - Dec 11 by BlueBadger
Norway and Switzerland of course, have quite comprehensive trade and diplomatic links to the EU. Just without the say. We'll likely a similar arrangements when we 'take back control'. Namely, that we'll still end up following EU rules, but have no say in what these rules should be. With the added bonus that we'll probably do some ludicrous trade deal wit the US which acts like TTIP on speed regarding the selling-off of public sector services to the Efficient Private Sector.
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I can't see Jezza signing up to TTIP.
"They break our legs and tell us to be grateful when they offer us crutches."
Just to cheer everyone up - Brexit economic suicide on 19:53 - Dec 11 by BanksterDebtSlave
I can't see Jezza signing up to TTIP.
He won't have to. The Europe of the future will a bunch of federalised states and decisions of a TTIP nature will be made at EU level by unelected former Goldman Sachs employees. The UK, although "outside" the EU will be bound to EU law anyway.
Just to cheer everyone up - Brexit economic suicide on 20:58 - Dec 11 by caught-in-limbo
He won't have to. The Europe of the future will a bunch of federalised states and decisions of a TTIP nature will be made at EU level by unelected former Goldman Sachs employees. The UK, although "outside" the EU will be bound to EU law anyway.
#RuleBritannia
...and our government will have managed to sign us up to something even worse.
I'm one of the people who was blamed for getting Paul Cook sacked. PM for the full post.
Just to cheer everyone up - Brexit economic suicide on 21:29 - Dec 11 by BlueBadger
...and our government will have managed to sign us up to something even worse.
The Brexit referendum was just a polarising distraction for the people. The result was always going to be the same: a significant step towards a United States of Europe with an EU army, EU police, EU laws and an EU treasury. This entity will do the bidding of the world's bankers. It doesn't matter if we move closer to the US or closer to the EU, the result is the same in the end, the sovereign state's day is numbered and we move towards a world government.
Anybody pointing this out over the last 5 years has been branded "conspiracy theorist" by clever people like you who watch the BBC and read the Guardian.
"World Order" - Henry Kissinger "Henry Kissinger offers in World Order a deep meditation on the roots of international harmony and global disorder. Drawing on his experience as one of the foremost statesmen of the modern era–advising presidents, traveling the world, observing and shaping the central foreign policy events of recent decades–Kissinger now reveals his analysis of the ultimate challenge for the twenty-first century: how to build a shared international order in a world of divergent historical perspectives, violent conflict, proliferating technology, and ideological extremism." source: https://www.amazon.com/World-Order-Henry-Kissinger/dp/0143127713/ref=sr_1_1?ie=U
Just to cheer everyone up - Brexit economic suicide on 21:55 - Dec 11 by caught-in-limbo
The Brexit referendum was just a polarising distraction for the people. The result was always going to be the same: a significant step towards a United States of Europe with an EU army, EU police, EU laws and an EU treasury. This entity will do the bidding of the world's bankers. It doesn't matter if we move closer to the US or closer to the EU, the result is the same in the end, the sovereign state's day is numbered and we move towards a world government.
Anybody pointing this out over the last 5 years has been branded "conspiracy theorist" by clever people like you who watch the BBC and read the Guardian.
"World Order" - Henry Kissinger "Henry Kissinger offers in World Order a deep meditation on the roots of international harmony and global disorder. Drawing on his experience as one of the foremost statesmen of the modern era–advising presidents, traveling the world, observing and shaping the central foreign policy events of recent decades–Kissinger now reveals his analysis of the ultimate challenge for the twenty-first century: how to build a shared international order in a world of divergent historical perspectives, violent conflict, proliferating technology, and ideological extremism." source: https://www.amazon.com/World-Order-Henry-Kissinger/dp/0143127713/ref=sr_1_1?ie=U
and your evidence for this take over by the 'world's bankers' is an amazon puff for a paperback? hmmm.
your attempts to squeeze brexit into your world view are good fun though.
And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show
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Just to cheer everyone up - Brexit economic suicide on 22:16 - Dec 11 with 6814 views
Just to cheer everyone up - Brexit economic suicide on 22:09 - Dec 11 by lowhouseblue
and your evidence for this take over by the 'world's bankers' is an amazon puff for a paperback? hmmm.
your attempts to squeeze brexit into your world view are good fun though.
The evidence is everywhere, even in the Independent you so often quote from:
“Some even believe [the Rockefellers] are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterising my family and me as ‘internationalists’ conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure — one world, if you will. If that’s the charge, I stand guilty, and I’m proud of it.” - David Rockefeller
Just to cheer everyone up - Brexit economic suicide on 22:17 - Dec 11 by caught-in-limbo
The evidence is everywhere, even in the Independent you so often quote from:
“Some even believe [the Rockefellers] are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterising my family and me as ‘internationalists’ conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure — one world, if you will. If that’s the charge, I stand guilty, and I’m proud of it.” - David Rockefeller
Just to cheer everyone up - Brexit economic suicide on 22:28 - Dec 11 by sparks
LOLLERSKATES.
TWTD's very own legal expert has spoken.
Would you care to address the point made in David Rockefeller's quote with something more fitting of your debating skills or are you going to settle for the childish approach?
Just to cheer everyone up - Brexit economic suicide on 22:17 - Dec 11 by caught-in-limbo
The evidence is everywhere, even in the Independent you so often quote from:
“Some even believe [the Rockefellers] are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterising my family and me as ‘internationalists’ conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure — one world, if you will. If that’s the charge, I stand guilty, and I’m proud of it.” - David Rockefeller
i very rarely quote the independent. since it has been online only it's gone even further down hill.
you try to make these quotes work far too hard. people can say "build a more integrated global political and economic structure" and not mean anything like what you are implying. you are trying to make their words carry a meaning which simply isn't intended. trade and international treaties make the world more integrated economically and politically. there is nothing malign in these quotes.
And so as the loose-bowelled pigeon of time swoops low over the unsuspecting tourist of destiny, and the flatulent skunk of fate wanders into the air-conditioning system of eternity, I notice it's the end of the show
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Just to cheer everyone up - Brexit economic suicide on 22:51 - Dec 11 with 6734 views
Just to cheer everyone up - Brexit economic suicide on 22:43 - Dec 11 by lowhouseblue
i very rarely quote the independent. since it has been online only it's gone even further down hill.
you try to make these quotes work far too hard. people can say "build a more integrated global political and economic structure" and not mean anything like what you are implying. you are trying to make their words carry a meaning which simply isn't intended. trade and international treaties make the world more integrated economically and politically. there is nothing malign in these quotes.
Nothing malign about an exceedingly rich family which has made its vast fortunes from oil and banking "working against the best interests of the United States"?
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