| Well done Scotland on 16:08 - Dec 14 with 7233 views | homer_123 |
Hang on a sec.....that seems awfully like common sense. |  |
|  |
| Well done Scotland on 16:09 - Dec 14 with 7231 views | Archer4721 |
| Well done Scotland on 16:08 - Dec 14 by homer_123 |
Hang on a sec.....that seems awfully like common sense. |
Unless you're a Tory politician. |  | | |
| Well done Scotland on 16:12 - Dec 14 with 7228 views | Ftnfwest |
Plus a few pledges, although all much easier if you’ve got someone’s else’s money to play with |  | | |
| Well done Scotland on 17:12 - Dec 14 with 7169 views | TJS |
Fairly standard populist policy.
I'd be more impressed if they put 1p on income tax for everyone in order to pay for more services but that would cost too many votes. |  | | |
| Well done Scotland on 17:20 - Dec 14 with 7156 views | Darth_Koont |
| Well done Scotland on 17:12 - Dec 14 by TJS |
Fairly standard populist policy.
I'd be more impressed if they put 1p on income tax for everyone in order to pay for more services but that would cost too many votes. |
Well, it wouldn't be as fair as it would affect the people who are in most need of services in other ways. |  |
| |
| Well done Scotland on 17:46 - Dec 14 with 7131 views | BloomBlue |
Bad news for Scotland, they'll see a brain drain to other Countries, never good that for any Country |  | | |
| Well done Scotland on 17:48 - Dec 14 with 7116 views | GlasgowBlue |
You think somebody earning £24k a year is a high earner? |  |
| |
| Well done Scotland on 17:50 - Dec 14 with 7125 views | longtimefan |
I wonder what those earning less than 26K will do with the extra 38.4p per week they will have compared to those in the rest of the UK?  |  | | |
Login to get fewer ads
| Well done Scotland on 17:56 - Dec 14 with 7110 views | TheBlueBarca |
Shame it's being paid for through the public spending formula in the UK which rewards poor performing areas such as Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland with money.
The Barnett formula is literally paying for socialism in Scotland (85% of Scotland's budget) while English families, schools and public services continue to decline despite being the most productive area of the U.K.
Where is our referendum to leave the UK? |  |
| |
| Well done Scotland on 18:29 - Dec 14 with 7074 views | bluelou |
| Well done Scotland on 17:48 - Dec 14 by GlasgowBlue |
You think somebody earning £24k a year is a high earner? |
In Scotland perhaps.
But they don't anyway. Anyone on £24k would be better off due to the lower rate being introduced. It's only when you get to £33k that the higher rates make a differnce which I assume is well about the national average. This seems a moderate sensible change rather than a dramatic populist move. | |
| |
| Well done Scotland on 18:42 - Dec 14 with 7062 views | Lord_Lucan |
| Well done Scotland on 18:29 - Dec 14 by bluelou |
In Scotland perhaps.
But they don't anyway. Anyone on £24k would be better off due to the lower rate being introduced. It's only when you get to £33k that the higher rates make a differnce which I assume is well about the national average. This seems a moderate sensible change rather than a dramatic populist move. |
I have never really understood why high achievers have to pay a higher rate of tax. If one was starting a tax system from scratch it would be seen as a ludicrous idea. They are paying more tax anyway as x% of 500,000 is larger than x% of 25,000.
One might think under a system like this people might avoid tax by other means. |  |
| |
| Well done Scotland on 18:56 - Dec 14 with 7046 views | Darth_Koont |
| Well done Scotland on 17:56 - Dec 14 by TheBlueBarca |
Shame it's being paid for through the public spending formula in the UK which rewards poor performing areas such as Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland with money.
The Barnett formula is literally paying for socialism in Scotland (85% of Scotland's budget) while English families, schools and public services continue to decline despite being the most productive area of the U.K.
Where is our referendum to leave the UK? |
Absolute balls. This is income tax in Scotland.
And anyway, re: the public spending formula beneath that, when you've got a country like the UK which has been allowed to become so centralised in terms of power and revenue then you have to redistribute that value to the regions. And even then it's not so much investing in those regions as propping them up. Scandalous - and nothing to do with the EU who actually understand regional development a bit more.
If England became independent then you and others like you would just be complaining about sponging Northerners. Because they don't sell enough financial products or house enough corporate HQs like the south east manages due to sheer blind luck. | |
| |
| Well done Scotland on 22:37 - Dec 14 with 6950 views | MothersAgainstKids |
| Well done Scotland on 18:56 - Dec 14 by Darth_Koont |
Absolute balls. This is income tax in Scotland.
And anyway, re: the public spending formula beneath that, when you've got a country like the UK which has been allowed to become so centralised in terms of power and revenue then you have to redistribute that value to the regions. And even then it's not so much investing in those regions as propping them up. Scandalous - and nothing to do with the EU who actually understand regional development a bit more.
If England became independent then you and others like you would just be complaining about sponging Northerners. Because they don't sell enough financial products or house enough corporate HQs like the south east manages due to sheer blind luck. |
that's such a poor and agenda-laden post.
The last paragraph is particularly pathetic. | | | |
| Well done Scotland on 23:07 - Dec 14 with 6919 views | Vic |
Wow, they've finally caught up with England then! As long as I can remember higher earners have always paid a far more than lower earners. |  |
| |
| Well done Scotland on 23:14 - Dec 14 with 6917 views | Darth_Koont |
| Well done Scotland on 22:37 - Dec 14 by MothersAgainstKids |
that's such a poor and agenda-laden post.
The last paragraph is particularly pathetic. |
Recognizing you have a problem is the first step. If you can't see that this is how the country is run and where the focus lies then you'll never get it.
Why don't you take it bit by bit to see what you're struggling with? | |
| |
| Well done Scotland on 00:28 - Dec 15 with 6892 views | Jonnosdreadlocks |
| Well done Scotland on 17:56 - Dec 14 by TheBlueBarca |
Shame it's being paid for through the public spending formula in the UK which rewards poor performing areas such as Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland with money.
The Barnett formula is literally paying for socialism in Scotland (85% of Scotland's budget) while English families, schools and public services continue to decline despite being the most productive area of the U.K.
Where is our referendum to leave the UK? |
Well said, When did England get a vote on devolution, an English Parliament or Independence vote? No, we just subsidise the rest of the UK. |  |
| |
| Well done Scotland on 01:28 - Dec 15 with 6875 views | MothersAgainstKids |
| Well done Scotland on 00:28 - Dec 15 by Jonnosdreadlocks |
Well said, When did England get a vote on devolution, an English Parliament or Independence vote? No, we just subsidise the rest of the UK. |
That's a fair point: Scotland can make such decisions, whilst England can not.
I suspect England given an opportunity to vote would vote for independence, but that's not on the agenda for those in power.
Seems to be okay in the media if Scots, Quebecois or Catalans can shout for independence, but not England. | | | |
| Well done Scotland on 01:59 - Dec 15 with 6858 views | Swansea_Blue |
| Well done Scotland on 18:56 - Dec 14 by Darth_Koont |
Absolute balls. This is income tax in Scotland.
And anyway, re: the public spending formula beneath that, when you've got a country like the UK which has been allowed to become so centralised in terms of power and revenue then you have to redistribute that value to the regions. And even then it's not so much investing in those regions as propping them up. Scandalous - and nothing to do with the EU who actually understand regional development a bit more.
If England became independent then you and others like you would just be complaining about sponging Northerners. Because they don't sell enough financial products or house enough corporate HQs like the south east manages due to sheer blind luck. |
I think your forgetting the Burnley realty powerhouse. Other than that, agreed. Wealth and investment distribution is incredibly unbalanced across the UK. There has to be some form of subsidy, especially when we're not all on an equal footing with infrastructure. England has motorways and airports galore for example. London gets the likes of crossrail to further stimulate their economy, yet the b@stards in Westminster won't even electrify the train lines to Swansea. |  |
| |
| Well done Scotland on 02:48 - Dec 15 with 6851 views | MothersAgainstKids |
| Well done Scotland on 01:59 - Dec 15 by Swansea_Blue |
I think your forgetting the Burnley realty powerhouse. Other than that, agreed. Wealth and investment distribution is incredibly unbalanced across the UK. There has to be some form of subsidy, especially when we're not all on an equal footing with infrastructure. England has motorways and airports galore for example. London gets the likes of crossrail to further stimulate their economy, yet the b@stards in Westminster won't even electrify the train lines to Swansea. |
The thing is wealth and investment is incredibly unbalanced across any country and indeed the world. East Anglia should know.
You mention motorways. I'm stuck for choice when leaving Ipswich. Just a full, dual carriageway to Norwich would be nice.
Maybe East Anglians should continually gripe and whine like one or two on this thread. | | | |
| Well done Scotland on 06:53 - Dec 15 with 6802 views | powinswitch |
| Well done Scotland on 17:56 - Dec 14 by TheBlueBarca |
Shame it's being paid for through the public spending formula in the UK which rewards poor performing areas such as Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland with money.
The Barnett formula is literally paying for socialism in Scotland (85% of Scotland's budget) while English families, schools and public services continue to decline despite being the most productive area of the U.K.
Where is our referendum to leave the UK? |
I am more than happy to have an independent Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. I encourage our government to give all 3 an independence vote. If we’re lucky they will all go for it, and then b6 defaul5 we will be an independent England. Happy days. | | | |
| Well done Scotland on 07:06 - Dec 15 with 6794 views | hype313 |
| Well done Scotland on 06:53 - Dec 15 by powinswitch |
I am more than happy to have an independent Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. I encourage our government to give all 3 an independence vote. If we’re lucky they will all go for it, and then b6 defaul5 we will be an independent England. Happy days. |
And then London will want a vote to leave England which will then mean abject poverty for the rest of the country. |  |
| |
| Well done Scotland on 07:27 - Dec 15 with 6781 views | StokieBlue |
| Well done Scotland on 01:59 - Dec 15 by Swansea_Blue |
I think your forgetting the Burnley realty powerhouse. Other than that, agreed. Wealth and investment distribution is incredibly unbalanced across the UK. There has to be some form of subsidy, especially when we're not all on an equal footing with infrastructure. England has motorways and airports galore for example. London gets the likes of crossrail to further stimulate their economy, yet the b@stards in Westminster won't even electrify the train lines to Swansea. |
It's not just to stimulate the economy in London (although it should).
Great London has about 25% of the national population living there, it's no surprise it "needs" these infrastructure projects to deal with that.
I do certainly understand from the outside it looks like London gets everything and maybe there is some truth in that.
SB [Post edited 15 Dec 2017 8:22]
|  |
| Avatar - IC410 - Tadpoles Nebula |
| |
| Well done Scotland on 07:59 - Dec 15 with 6755 views | powinswitch |
| Well done Scotland on 07:06 - Dec 15 by hype313 |
And then London will want a vote to leave England which will then mean abject poverty for the rest of the country. |
The three I hope to allow to vote for their own independence are nations in their own right, with a lapsed history of self determination. London has a history of be8ng a part of England. They would have no basis for independence. I am not encouraging people to go alone on a whim, but where there is a genuine historical basis for it. There are significant n7mbers in Scotland, NI and wales who want this, there is no similar demand in any part of England, with the exception of Kernow. | | | |
| Well done Scotland on 08:25 - Dec 15 with 6735 views | hype313 |
| Well done Scotland on 07:59 - Dec 15 by powinswitch |
The three I hope to allow to vote for their own independence are nations in their own right, with a lapsed history of self determination. London has a history of be8ng a part of England. They would have no basis for independence. I am not encouraging people to go alone on a whim, but where there is a genuine historical basis for it. There are significant n7mbers in Scotland, NI and wales who want this, there is no similar demand in any part of England, with the exception of Kernow. |
I think you will be surprised, London voted overwhemling to remain, the current Mayor has already called for London to be separate from the UK, so it's not out of the realm that it could happen. | |
| |
| Well done Scotland on 08:50 - Dec 15 with 6719 views | SaleAway |
| Well done Scotland on 07:27 - Dec 15 by StokieBlue |
It's not just to stimulate the economy in London (although it should).
Great London has about 25% of the national population living there, it's no surprise it "needs" these infrastructure projects to deal with that.
I do certainly understand from the outside it looks like London gets everything and maybe there is some truth in that.
SB [Post edited 15 Dec 2017 8:22]
|
Needs the infrastructure to support the population?
You could put it that way, or you could perhaps suggest that providing investment and infrastructure to other places, would make them more attractive to businesses, so alleviating the need for 25% of the population to live in Greater London. For example, instead of dumping 10s of billions on HS2, why not properly invest in the so called Northern Powerhouse, so that people could actually make a decent living up there?
If you keep just propping up the London area, it will just get worse. If you balance it out a bit, perhaps, you might get somewhere. | |
| |
| |
By continuing to use the site, you agree to our use of cookies and to abide by our Terms and Conditions.
