| Mark Hughes 13:18 - Jan 9 with 5591 views | clive_baker |
I've just spent my lunch break reminding myself of his managerial CV. Did well for Wales. Forgot how much success he actually had at Blackburn both in the league and cups. Man City was a bit of a debacle when the money came in, generally spent a lot of it and didn't do a lot. Left Fulham 8th in the Prem, kept QPR up. Took over an unfashionable but hard working Stoke side (remind you of anyone?). Transformed their style and took them to 3 consecutive 9th place finishes before the car crash that was this season.
Only issue I have is it's Mark Hughes. I don't really like the bloke. |  |
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| Mark Hughes on 13:23 - Jan 9 with 5162 views | Currie10 |
Very good manager, won't struggle to find another job. |  | | |
| Mark Hughes on 13:23 - Jan 9 with 5170 views | FinidiCentenary |
There was a piece on the radio last night saying that pretty much all the clubs he's been at, the fans remember him for being very good until he was given money to spend.
Looks, from his time at Wales, he's perhaps a decent man manager and organiser, but ultimately he seems to go for the wrong sort of player.
I can see what he was trying to do with Stoke, but with Jese, Imbula, Affelay, Arnautovic, Shakiri, Bojan amongst others, he seemed to want to add flair and excitement, but it was perhaps the likes of Shawcross, Adam, Walters and Crouch, the hard working players that gave 100% that gave him the most success.
Similar story at Fulham, Blackburn and Man City. Maybe even QPR. Whenever he managed a top 14 side he could finish top 10. Whenever he tried to take them to a regular European side by trying to add exciting players to replace the core of the team and the workhorses, it seemed to fall apart.
He's always reminded me a bit of 2001-02 Burley in that sense. That his problem is not getting players to work for him or forming a team spirit. It's when he starts to introduce players of what he sees as a higher technical quality into that group. Maybe that's where he gets the dynamic wrong each time, with other players coming in that are on twice as much money and doing half as much work. [Post edited 9 Jan 2018 13:24]
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| Mark Hughes on 13:24 - Jan 9 with 5130 views | Bluefish |
Best volleyer I've ever seen
Not sure if that adds anything as a manager though |  |
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| Mark Hughes on 13:25 - Jan 9 with 5133 views | JimmyJazz |
Should your last point matter though?
His QPR stint wasn't successful, think Rangers fans felt he helped contribute to their financial mess by overpaying on poor signings. Not well liked by their fans |  |
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| Mark Hughes on 13:25 - Jan 9 with 5130 views | Dubtractor |
I'm with you.
Always thought he comes across as a bit of a dick. |  |
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| Mark Hughes on 13:28 - Jan 9 with 5094 views | dissboy2 |
wouldn't want him here, we need someone younger with more modern thinking | | | |
| Mark Hughes on 13:29 - Jan 9 with 5089 views | clive_baker |
| Mark Hughes on 13:25 - Jan 9 by JimmyJazz |
Should your last point matter though?
His QPR stint wasn't successful, think Rangers fans felt he helped contribute to their financial mess by overpaying on poor signings. Not well liked by their fans |
Shouldn't really matter, I just don't like him. I don't really like Mick in terms of his professional persona but I'm sure he's a decent bloke.
He kept QPR up in that first season but then they spent a lot of money and it went off the rails. As has already been mentioned perhaps he's better on a budget, getting a close knit group over performing. Might be a decent fit here, certainly won't need to worry about him spending too much. | |
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| Mark Hughes on 13:31 - Jan 9 with 5062 views | clive_baker |
| Mark Hughes on 13:23 - Jan 9 by FinidiCentenary |
There was a piece on the radio last night saying that pretty much all the clubs he's been at, the fans remember him for being very good until he was given money to spend.
Looks, from his time at Wales, he's perhaps a decent man manager and organiser, but ultimately he seems to go for the wrong sort of player.
I can see what he was trying to do with Stoke, but with Jese, Imbula, Affelay, Arnautovic, Shakiri, Bojan amongst others, he seemed to want to add flair and excitement, but it was perhaps the likes of Shawcross, Adam, Walters and Crouch, the hard working players that gave 100% that gave him the most success.
Similar story at Fulham, Blackburn and Man City. Maybe even QPR. Whenever he managed a top 14 side he could finish top 10. Whenever he tried to take them to a regular European side by trying to add exciting players to replace the core of the team and the workhorses, it seemed to fall apart.
He's always reminded me a bit of 2001-02 Burley in that sense. That his problem is not getting players to work for him or forming a team spirit. It's when he starts to introduce players of what he sees as a higher technical quality into that group. Maybe that's where he gets the dynamic wrong each time, with other players coming in that are on twice as much money and doing half as much work. [Post edited 9 Jan 2018 13:24]
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fair comments.
I don't think his achievements at Stoke should be underestimated. 3 consecutive 9th place finishes in a league with 6 such big clubs is strong. They went about it in the right way too, Stoke were playing some fantastic football last couple of seasons. All after they were told to be careful what they wished for post Pulis. Definitely some synergies between where we are now. | |
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| Mark Hughes on 13:48 - Jan 9 with 4967 views | BackToRussia |
| Mark Hughes on 13:31 - Jan 9 by clive_baker |
fair comments.
I don't think his achievements at Stoke should be underestimated. 3 consecutive 9th place finishes in a league with 6 such big clubs is strong. They went about it in the right way too, Stoke were playing some fantastic football last couple of seasons. All after they were told to be careful what they wished for post Pulis. Definitely some synergies between where we are now. |
Hughes wouldn't drop down a level I don't think, not yet. |  |
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| Mark Hughes on 14:05 - Jan 9 with 4890 views | ITFC_Forever |
QPR fans hate him.
Overloaded the squad with journeymen (many from the same agent) who were there on mega contracts. |  |
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| Mark Hughes on 14:10 - Jan 9 with 4867 views | No9 |
| Mark Hughes on 13:25 - Jan 9 by Dubtractor |
I'm with you.
Always thought he comes across as a bit of a dick. |
More than a bit, more like total | | | |
| Mark Hughes on 14:13 - Jan 9 with 4849 views | chicoazul |
Hughes, Allardyce, Pardew, Hodgson, Moyes, Pulis. It goes on and on and these guys (specifically Allrdyce) then have the cheek to moan about young British Managers not getting a chance or whatever. Yes, because you lot keep getting the top jobs. It's nothing to do with foreigns coming over here and nicking our jobs. |  |
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| Mark Hughes on 14:16 - Jan 9 with 4824 views | No9 |
| Mark Hughes on 14:13 - Jan 9 by chicoazul |
Hughes, Allardyce, Pardew, Hodgson, Moyes, Pulis. It goes on and on and these guys (specifically Allrdyce) then have the cheek to moan about young British Managers not getting a chance or whatever. Yes, because you lot keep getting the top jobs. It's nothing to do with foreigns coming over here and nicking our jobs. |
You can add MM to that list | | | |
| Mark Hughes on 14:17 - Jan 9 with 4832 views | itfcjoe |
He is a decent manager, and think people forget he is a player that played for Man Utd, Chelsea, Bayern and Barca - that's some CV.
Hard to find fans of previous clubs who remember him that fondly though which is a surprise when you look at his record on paper - but it feels as though he thinks he is as good a manager as he was player and always got his eyes on a better job as thinks he should be challenging for titles. |  |
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| Mark Hughes on 14:26 - Jan 9 with 4775 views | Johnny_Boy |
Just sent you a PM |  | | |
| Mark Hughes on 14:29 - Jan 9 with 4755 views | ITFCBlues |
There is no way we’d attract a manager like that here.
People think this Ipswich job is desirable - it really isn’t. No money to spend in a league with 15-16 other bigger spenders. |  |
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| Mark Hughes on 14:33 - Jan 9 with 4729 views | hype313 |
| Mark Hughes on 14:29 - Jan 9 by ITFCBlues |
There is no way we’d attract a manager like that here.
People think this Ipswich job is desirable - it really isn’t. No money to spend in a league with 15-16 other bigger spenders. |
Although any manager would know he would get plenty of time with our owner. |  |
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| Mark Hughes on 14:33 - Jan 9 with 4723 views | monty_radio |
They say distance lends enchantment. So when you've only recently watched umpteen cheerless post-match interviews, heard poor play exonerated and match outcomes challenged, then any longer-term achievement is crowded out. Serial defeats still lingering in the mind and unsmiling bitterness aren't an especially winsome combination.
On the other hand, perhaps he's always dreamt of managing Ipswich. [Post edited 9 Jan 2018 15:19]
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| Mark Hughes on 14:41 - Jan 9 with 4665 views | Radlett_blue |
Yes, kept QPR up by the skin of their teeth & then spent fortunes on a bunch of ageing mercenaries, most of came through his own agent. Was sacked as he was clearly going to take them down & he nearly bankrupted the club in the process.
Not necessarily a terrible manager, but that was a major blot on his CV. |  |
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| Mark Hughes on 14:42 - Jan 9 with 4660 views | Radlett_blue |
| Mark Hughes on 13:24 - Jan 9 by Bluefish |
Best volleyer I've ever seen
Not sure if that adds anything as a manager though |
Pete Sampras was better. | |
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| Mark Hughes on 14:44 - Jan 9 with 4651 views | hype313 |
| Mark Hughes on 14:41 - Jan 9 by Radlett_blue |
Yes, kept QPR up by the skin of their teeth & then spent fortunes on a bunch of ageing mercenaries, most of came through his own agent. Was sacked as he was clearly going to take them down & he nearly bankrupted the club in the process.
Not necessarily a terrible manager, but that was a major blot on his CV. |
Either way he still has enough credit in the bank to get a gig in the PL, he would view us as a major step down in his career. | |
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| Mark Hughes on 14:46 - Jan 9 with 4640 views | BrixtonBlue |
I'd be less worried about us getting relegated post-Mick with Hughes coming in, but we're too small for him. |  |
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| Mark Hughes on 15:00 - Jan 9 with 4603 views | Garv |
I've always liked him. He started getting frosty with people recently which is understandable to an extent.
He's had Stoke playing great stuff at times.
We could do a lot worse (not that there's any likelihood). |  |
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| Mark Hughes on 15:43 - Jan 9 with 4517 views | Marshalls_Mullet |
Cant see him joining us.
Pretty respectable CV though. |  |
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| Mark Hughes on 17:17 - Jan 9 with 4398 views | textbackup |
| Mark Hughes on 13:24 - Jan 9 by Bluefish |
Best volleyer I've ever seen
Not sure if that adds anything as a manager though |
PRehaps he could volley Grant Ward into next week and wake him up a bit |  |
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