| Let's clear one thing up 15:10 - Feb 18 with 13690 views | Garv |
full post above [Post edited 18 Feb 2018 21:03]
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| Let's clear one thing up on 15:10 - Feb 18 with 6147 views | SpruceMoose |
It wasn't. He was celebrating. |  |
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| Let's clear one thing up on 15:11 - Feb 18 with 6120 views | noggin |
| Let's clear one thing up on 15:10 - Feb 18 by SpruceMoose |
It wasn't. He was celebrating. |
What makes you think that? |  |
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| Let's clear one thing up on 15:12 - Feb 18 with 6105 views | stantheman |
If you think it was aimed at you, perhaps you should do just that. |  | | |
| Let's clear one thing up on 15:14 - Feb 18 with 6063 views | SpruceMoose |
| Let's clear one thing up on 15:11 - Feb 18 by noggin |
What makes you think that? |
I used my eyes to watch it  | |
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| Let's clear one thing up on 15:18 - Feb 18 with 5982 views | pistonbroke |
| Let's clear one thing up on 15:14 - Feb 18 by SpruceMoose |
I used my eyes to watch it |
It matters not , abusive language in the workplace is grevious misconduct , should be instant dismissal , the football stadium is his work place , no excuses |  | | |
| Let's clear one thing up on 15:19 - Feb 18 with 5961 views | Garv |
| Let's clear one thing up on 15:12 - Feb 18 by stantheman |
If you think it was aimed at you, perhaps you should do just that. |
Posted by mistake, my full post is above. | |
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| Let's clear one thing up on 15:19 - Feb 18 with 5956 views | LeoMuff |
| Let's clear one thing up on 15:18 - Feb 18 by pistonbroke |
It matters not , abusive language in the workplace is grevious misconduct , should be instant dismissal , the football stadium is his work place , no excuses |
Snowflake alert. |  |
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| Let's clear one thing up on 15:19 - Feb 18 with 5958 views | Darth_Koont |
The chant was ridiculously poor and deserved whatever was coming back, especially in the heat of the moment.
I'll admit it's not 100% it was definitely aimed at the fans who were chanting but that's the most understandable target.
More embarrassing than anything I've seen from us this season and that includes the Burton game. |  |
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| Let's clear one thing up on 15:20 - Feb 18 with 5942 views | Garv |
| Let's clear one thing up on 15:12 - Feb 18 by stantheman |
If you think it was aimed at you, perhaps you should do just that. |
And thanks. | |
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| Let's clear one thing up on 15:21 - Feb 18 with 5913 views | noggin |
| Let's clear one thing up on 15:14 - Feb 18 by SpruceMoose |
I used my eyes to watch it |
Not saying you're wrong but nobody else is so convinced. | |
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| Let's clear one thing up on 15:21 - Feb 18 with 5907 views | SpruceMoose |
| Let's clear one thing up on 15:18 - Feb 18 by pistonbroke |
It matters not , abusive language in the workplace is grevious misconduct , should be instant dismissal , the football stadium is his work place , no excuses |
Ridiculous. Football is sanitized enough as it is without that kind of nonsense. Football is nothing like a normal workplace.
If some fans want to spend their 90 minutes abusing the manager then have at it. But it makes them look like massive hypocrites if they get upset when the manager allegedly gives them some back. | |
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| Let's clear one thing up on 15:22 - Feb 18 with 5890 views | bluehook |
| Let's clear one thing up on 15:19 - Feb 18 by LeoMuff |
Snowflake alert. |
Joke alert mate. 😂 |  | | |
| Let's clear one thing up on 15:22 - Feb 18 with 5873 views | SpruceMoose |
| Let's clear one thing up on 15:21 - Feb 18 by noggin |
Not saying you're wrong but nobody else is so convinced. |
I think there's are plenty arguing both sides of it? | |
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| Let's clear one thing up on 15:25 - Feb 18 with 5846 views | pistonbroke |
| Let's clear one thing up on 15:21 - Feb 18 by SpruceMoose |
Ridiculous. Football is sanitized enough as it is without that kind of nonsense. Football is nothing like a normal workplace.
If some fans want to spend their 90 minutes abusing the manager then have at it. But it makes them look like massive hypocrites if they get upset when the manager allegedly gives them some back. |
But just now you said it was not aimed at the fans lol | | | |
| Let's clear one thing up on 15:30 - Feb 18 with 5800 views | SpruceMoose |
| Let's clear one thing up on 15:25 - Feb 18 by pistonbroke |
But just now you said it was not aimed at the fans lol |
I said allegedly | |
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| Let's clear one thing up on 15:31 - Feb 18 with 5792 views | pistonbroke |
| Let's clear one thing up on 15:30 - Feb 18 by SpruceMoose |
I said allegedly |
So your not sure it was not directed at the fans , glad we've cleared that up | | | |
| Let's clear one thing up on 15:39 - Feb 18 with 5740 views | SpruceMoose |
| Let's clear one thing up on 15:31 - Feb 18 by pistonbroke |
So your not sure it was not directed at the fans , glad we've cleared that up |
No, I said it is alledged by some fans that Mick aimed it at them. I don't think he did personally.
What I was saying is, I don't get why these fans who spent the match abusing Mick are outraged when he, in their eyes, have them some back. That makes them hypocrites.
Glad to clear that up. | |
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| Let's clear one thing up on 15:45 - Feb 18 with 5707 views | pistonbroke |
| Let's clear one thing up on 15:39 - Feb 18 by SpruceMoose |
No, I said it is alledged by some fans that Mick aimed it at them. I don't think he did personally.
What I was saying is, I don't get why these fans who spent the match abusing Mick are outraged when he, in their eyes, have them some back. That makes them hypocrites.
Glad to clear that up. |
The only person who knows who his abuse was directed at is McCarthy himself , however abuse in the workplace like I said earlier is gross misconduct , dunno why you chose to argue the point | | | |
| Let's clear one thing up on 15:47 - Feb 18 with 5683 views | C_HealyIsAPleasure |
| Let's clear one thing up on 15:45 - Feb 18 by pistonbroke |
The only person who knows who his abuse was directed at is McCarthy himself , however abuse in the workplace like I said earlier is gross misconduct , dunno why you chose to argue the point |
No it isn’t - depends on the workplace and football is clearly an exceptional environment
Obviously the manager telling fans to f*ck off isn’t great, but it’s not conclusive that that’s what happened and to be honest I don’t care, I care that we lost our first derby win in god knows how long in the 95th f*cking minute... |  |
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| Let's clear one thing up on 15:51 - Feb 18 with 5654 views | SpruceMoose |
| Let's clear one thing up on 15:45 - Feb 18 by pistonbroke |
The only person who knows who his abuse was directed at is McCarthy himself , however abuse in the workplace like I said earlier is gross misconduct , dunno why you chose to argue the point |
Because you're mistaken about what constitutes gross misconduct I guess. | |
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"Imagine being a heterosexual white male in Britain at this moment. How bad is that. Everything you say is racist, everything you say is homophobic. The Woke community have really f****d this country." | | Poll: | Selectamod |
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| Let's clear one thing up on 16:00 - Feb 18 with 5554 views | pistonbroke |
| Let's clear one thing up on 15:51 - Feb 18 by SpruceMoose |
Because you're mistaken about what constitutes gross misconduct I guess. |
Not at all , in my job gross misconduct is a grey area and also indefenceable , I win 95% of my cases , but would struggle to win this one | | | |
| Let's clear one thing up on 16:04 - Feb 18 with 5532 views | pointofblue |
| Let's clear one thing up on 15:39 - Feb 18 by SpruceMoose |
No, I said it is alledged by some fans that Mick aimed it at them. I don't think he did personally.
What I was saying is, I don't get why these fans who spent the match abusing Mick are outraged when he, in their eyes, have them some back. That makes them hypocrites.
Glad to clear that up. |
I don't think Mick's blunt manner helps matters though; constntly attacking the other side of relationship rather than talking things through and being contrite more often that not ends in a bitter divorce.
The fans shouldn't be slating him IMO and it isn't helping the players in the slightest but I think some of this is resentment from Mick's digs and comments. If he came out and said "I am sorry for the fans as I know the quality of our football hasn't been of the highest standard and not the sort expected at Ipswich but we are trying to work on this and I hope they can stick with us whilst we do so" at the start I think the reception wouldn't be so bad as it is now. | |
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| Let's clear one thing up on 16:16 - Feb 18 with 5457 views | horsehollerer |
You really think so? I can't believe that. Thing is, when Chambo scored, I too screamed "Fck Off!" while repeatedly giving my TV the middle finger. I definitely wasn't aiming this at Town fans. You didn't do this too? |  |
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| Let's clear one thing up on 16:23 - Feb 18 with 5380 views | J2BLUE |
You are pathetic. Who cares if it was aimed at us or not? I very much doubt it was but you are desperate to twist it until it was aimed at us because you're constantly negative about everything. |  |
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| Let's clear one thing up on 16:24 - Feb 18 with 5374 views | eireblue |
| Let's clear one thing up on 15:45 - Feb 18 by pistonbroke |
The only person who knows who his abuse was directed at is McCarthy himself , however abuse in the workplace like I said earlier is gross misconduct , dunno why you chose to argue the point |
If you are trying to compare a football stadium to workplace environment.
!. Swearing in any of the workplace environments I have been in is not gross misconduct. Swearing is not even mentioned in T&C's and rules of conduct in all the places I have worked. Some people in certain teams seem to swear quite a bit when achieving targets in a celebratory way.
2.If I was going about my job, and was being abused explicitly, whether that involved swearing or not, then my employer would have a duty of care under the dignity of work act to prevent that abuse.
So if we are going down the workplace analogy of trying to find another way to be critical of MM, unfortunately, that would mean ITFC would be correct to remove anybody abusing MM within his workplace.
Was that the sort of thing you are looking to achieve. |  | | |
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