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| "Mummy's not got the money" on 10:21 - Mar 23 with 4832 views | No9 |
I saw that, our family suffered when I was young but, that was just after WW2 so there was an excuse.
There is no excuse now & it really does say a lot about our politicians when they have allowed this to grow and so many are seeing things get worse not better. | | | |
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| "Mummy's not got the money" on 10:21 - Mar 23 by No9 |
I saw that, our family suffered when I was young but, that was just after WW2 so there was an excuse.
There is no excuse now & it really does say a lot about our politicians when they have allowed this to grow and so many are seeing things get worse not better. |
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| "Mummy's not got the money" on 12:05 - Mar 23 with 4703 views | noggin |
Waits for a tory voter to tell us we've never had it so good. |  |
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| "Mummy's not got the money" on 12:05 - Mar 23 by noggin |
Waits for a tory voter to tell us we've never had it so good. |
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| "Mummy's not got the money" on 15:06 - Mar 23 with 4602 views | J2BLUE |
Like you, i'm thankful for what I have. A few small differences and I could be in big trouble rather than comfortable. If I had to pay market rent and hadn't discovered matched betting i'd be in a pretty sh1t situation instead of a very good one.
Hate to see people genuinely struggling. I often wonder what i'd do if I didn't have any of the lifelines i'm lucky enough to have. |  |
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| (No subject) on 16:27 - Mar 23 with 4545 views | FrowsyArmLarry |
My wife’s brother seems to get by fine in London with three kids, a wife who doesn’t work and he’s on a min wage job. He runs a car and certainly doesn’t go without food. He has a great flat too [Post edited 23 Mar 2018 16:28]
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| (No subject) on 16:45 - Mar 23 with 4516 views | manchego |
| (No subject) on 16:27 - Mar 23 by FrowsyArmLarry |
My wife’s brother seems to get by fine in London with three kids, a wife who doesn’t work and he’s on a min wage job. He runs a car and certainly doesn’t go without food. He has a great flat too [Post edited 23 Mar 2018 16:28]
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I honestly don't know how that works.
Where does he live ?
Does he own or rent ?
I lived in London for 25 years and I'm baffled. |  | | |
| (No subject) on 17:12 - Mar 23 with 4480 views | FrowsyArmLarry |
| (No subject) on 16:45 - Mar 23 by manchego |
I honestly don't know how that works.
Where does he live ?
Does he own or rent ?
I lived in London for 25 years and I'm baffled. |
Obviously he has a council flat (one of the nice old ones) and a slew of benefit. I’m not saying they’re rolling in it, but they are ok. One of the kids has a scholarship to a swanky school too | | | |
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| (No subject) on 17:14 - Mar 23 with 4479 views | TJS |
This is not a problem with British society. Poverty rates in most developed countries are fairly similar. [Post edited 23 Mar 2018 17:15]
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| "Mummy's not got the money" on 17:15 - Mar 23 with 4479 views | dirtyboy |
I think you can blame conservatives and labour before them.
Labour created them, Conservatives made it impossible for them.
There's a lack of social responsibility. I know a single mum, her parents were suffiently well off and offered to have her and the child at home.
She said she 'couldn't handle living with parents again' and now doesn't work and is on UC.
How on earth is that fair to us as tax payers? She's not needy, she's doesn't need the safety net. There are plenty that do.
Family should look after children where they can, my parents grew up sharing bedrooms with their bloody grandparents ffs. The whole lot lived in a 2 up 2 down etc. They coped.
Lines have to be drawn somewhere. I don't know the answer, but this society as it stands has lots of flaws and every government has had a part to play in it. |  | | |
| "Mummy's not got the money" on 17:18 - Mar 23 with 4466 views | The_Romford_Blue |
Good post Libby. If there’s one thing I hate it’s snobbery.
Who was the poster? I vaguely remember something on this but can’t remenebr who it was. |  |
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| "Mummy's not got the money" on 17:54 - Mar 23 with 4411 views | No9 |
| "Mummy's not got the money" on 17:15 - Mar 23 by dirtyboy |
I think you can blame conservatives and labour before them.
Labour created them, Conservatives made it impossible for them.
There's a lack of social responsibility. I know a single mum, her parents were suffiently well off and offered to have her and the child at home.
She said she 'couldn't handle living with parents again' and now doesn't work and is on UC.
How on earth is that fair to us as tax payers? She's not needy, she's doesn't need the safety net. There are plenty that do.
Family should look after children where they can, my parents grew up sharing bedrooms with their bloody grandparents ffs. The whole lot lived in a 2 up 2 down etc. They coped.
Lines have to be drawn somewhere. I don't know the answer, but this society as it stands has lots of flaws and every government has had a part to play in it. |
The underclass was created in the 80's, as was the attitude toward the less well off. There were massive tax cuts for the wealthy, what tax cuts the lower paid got were countered with tax allownaces beign cancelled.
Interest rates were cripplign for many and council houses, as good as disappeared.
Noting has been done about that so those at the bottom are suffering & now that Mr Hammond has confirmed the next round of cuts are going ahead the estimate is that another 11 million will be in the same boat.
That is not how a civilised society behaves. | | | |
| (No subject) on 17:59 - Mar 23 with 4401 views | uefacup81 |
| (No subject) on 17:14 - Mar 23 by TJS |
This is not a problem with British society. Poverty rates in most developed countries are fairly similar. [Post edited 23 Mar 2018 17:15]
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I'm not accusing you of making the point, but just because it happens elsewhere too, doesn't make it any less wrong. |  |
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| (No subject) on 19:02 - Mar 23 with 4334 views | BloomBlue |
Makes me smile you think it will be better under the momentum party it won't
The only party who have any vision and ideas on this is the greens |  | | |
| (No subject) on 19:06 - Mar 23 with 4323 views | vapour_trail |
| (No subject) on 16:27 - Mar 23 by FrowsyArmLarry |
My wife’s brother seems to get by fine in London with three kids, a wife who doesn’t work and he’s on a min wage job. He runs a car and certainly doesn’t go without food. He has a great flat too [Post edited 23 Mar 2018 16:28]
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Well there we have it folks, it’s all a piece of piss quite clearly. |  |
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| (No subject) on 19:10 - Mar 23 with 4318 views | Swansea_Blue |
| (No subject) on 17:14 - Mar 23 by TJS |
This is not a problem with British society. Poverty rates in most developed countries are fairly similar. [Post edited 23 Mar 2018 17:15]
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I presume you mean not a unique problem. It's certainly a problem if we are struggling to feed our kids nutritious meals (be that a money or/and awareness issue). |  |
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| (No subject) on 19:12 - Mar 23 with 4310 views | SpruceMoose |
| (No subject) on 19:06 - Mar 23 by vapour_trail |
Well there we have it folks, it’s all a piece of piss quite clearly. |
He does appear to have an awful brother in law though. |  |
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| (No subject) on 19:52 - Mar 23 with 4260 views | FrowsyArmLarry |
| (No subject) on 19:06 - Mar 23 by vapour_trail |
Well there we have it folks, it’s all a piece of piss quite clearly. |
It is though isn’t it? I know someone else just in from South Africa who’s waiting to get a place. You just need to know how to work the system | | | |
| "Mummy's not got the money" on 20:00 - Mar 23 with 4242 views | Coastalblue |
| "Mummy's not got the money" on 17:54 - Mar 23 by No9 |
The underclass was created in the 80's, as was the attitude toward the less well off. There were massive tax cuts for the wealthy, what tax cuts the lower paid got were countered with tax allownaces beign cancelled.
Interest rates were cripplign for many and council houses, as good as disappeared.
Noting has been done about that so those at the bottom are suffering & now that Mr Hammond has confirmed the next round of cuts are going ahead the estimate is that another 11 million will be in the same boat.
That is not how a civilised society behaves. |
It's not going to change whilst we have career politicians of all persuasions who have no interest beyongd the next ballot box.
If someone tells me Corbyn is different, well I'm sorry I don't believe you. |  |
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| (No subject) on 20:01 - Mar 23 with 4241 views | vapour_trail |
| (No subject) on 19:52 - Mar 23 by FrowsyArmLarry |
It is though isn’t it? I know someone else just in from South Africa who’s waiting to get a place. You just need to know how to work the system |
Have you got a brother who always did better than you at school, called blue_oyster? | |
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| "Mummy's not got the money" on 20:06 - Mar 23 with 4221 views | NewcyBlue |
| "Mummy's not got the money" on 15:06 - Mar 23 by J2BLUE |
Like you, i'm thankful for what I have. A few small differences and I could be in big trouble rather than comfortable. If I had to pay market rent and hadn't discovered matched betting i'd be in a pretty sh1t situation instead of a very good one.
Hate to see people genuinely struggling. I often wonder what i'd do if I didn't have any of the lifelines i'm lucky enough to have. |
When my Mother died I became homeless. If I hadn’t been training to be an officer in the Merch then I have no idea where I would be today.
If I wasn’t at sea or at the Maritime school then I was sleeping in my old Mondeo Estate. I bought it because that was the biggest car I could afford to keep as much stuff as I could.
It’s been a long old road. |  |
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| "Mummy's not got the money" on 20:09 - Mar 23 with 4208 views | J2BLUE |
| "Mummy's not got the money" on 20:06 - Mar 23 by NewcyBlue |
When my Mother died I became homeless. If I hadn’t been training to be an officer in the Merch then I have no idea where I would be today.
If I wasn’t at sea or at the Maritime school then I was sleeping in my old Mondeo Estate. I bought it because that was the biggest car I could afford to keep as much stuff as I could.
It’s been a long old road. |
You've done well mate. From what I know of your story you earnt it as well. | |
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| "Mummy's not got the money" on 20:12 - Mar 23 with 4194 views | Lord_Lucan |
| "Mummy's not got the money" on 17:54 - Mar 23 by No9 |
The underclass was created in the 80's, as was the attitude toward the less well off. There were massive tax cuts for the wealthy, what tax cuts the lower paid got were countered with tax allownaces beign cancelled.
Interest rates were cripplign for many and council houses, as good as disappeared.
Noting has been done about that so those at the bottom are suffering & now that Mr Hammond has confirmed the next round of cuts are going ahead the estimate is that another 11 million will be in the same boat.
That is not how a civilised society behaves. |
The thing about the council houses though is that it enabled people to own their own house which they were able to purchase for next to nothing. My father in law purchased his, he would never have been able to own his own home otherwise. It was actually a fantastic thing for people like him, it was a brilliant scheme.
It has gone wrong though - and I will use my father in law as a casing point, now he and his wife has died the house was sold and his children all copped a tidy sum, everyone's a winner! The problem is now that the once council house is no more a council house and it has left the family. What should have happened - and it is all hindsight - is that for every two council houses sold another one should have been built. |  |
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| "Mummy's not got the money" on 20:14 - Mar 23 with 4182 views | NewcyBlue |
| "Mummy's not got the money" on 20:09 - Mar 23 by J2BLUE |
You've done well mate. From what I know of your story you earnt it as well. |
Cheers mate. I’d say I have done as well as the next man.
We all have different obstacles to overcome. We all find different obstacles difficult.
It’s amazing what you do out of necessity sometimes. | |
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| "Mummy's not got the money" on 20:24 - Mar 23 with 4160 views | Lord_Lucan |
| "Mummy's not got the money" on 12:05 - Mar 23 by noggin |
Waits for a tory voter to tell us we've never had it so good. |
It's a conundrum that's for sure, life is so different now.
Nowadays kids have mobile phones, getting a takeaway is no longer considered an absolute luxury, we all have possessions that would be unheard of years ago.
I'm trying not to go down the never had it so good route but our first house wasn't just rented, it was rented and shared with the Singh family upstairs - one front door for all of us.
I know that there are some that are very poor but I genuinely think that it has been a lot worse***
*** I am not defending the fact that some people are not getting enough help. Not that I'm an expert but I thing the benefit system is genuinely made to be as difficult as possible for people to even begin to get a claim in. | |
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