| Brixtonblue 01:17 - Apr 24 with 6508 views | FrowsyArmLarry |
This is what jezza actually said (I’m sure you know this as I’ve just pulled it from fullfact)
It’s conclusive... forthcoming student for 17/18 academic year would be rebated until all fees cancelled. He also didn’t see why students with existing debt should be burdened and would work that out in due course. Please don’t bother bringing this one up again.
During the interview Mr Corbyn is quoted as saying:
“First of all, we want to get rid of student fees altogether ...
“We’ll do it as soon as we get in, and we’ll then introduce legislation to ensure that any student going from the 2017-18 academic year will not pay fees. They will pay them, but we’ll rebate them when we’ve got the legislation through — that’s fundamentally the principle behind it.
“Yes, there is a block of those that currently have a massive debt, and I’m looking at ways that we could reduce that, ameliorate that, lengthen the period of paying it off, or some other means of reducing that debt burden ...
“I don’t have the simple answer for it at this stage — I don’t think anybody would expect me to, because this election was called unexpectedly; we had two weeks to prepare all of this — but I’m very well aware of that problem ...
“And I don’t see why those that had the historical misfortune to be at university during the £9,000 period should be burdened excessively compared to those that went before or those that come after. I will deal with it.”
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| Brixtonblue on 06:29 - Apr 24 with 3581 views | Benters2 |
So what then? |  | | |
| Brixtonblue on 06:30 - Apr 24 with 3586 views | noggin |
How refreshing. A politician who will make life easier for the average person, not his rich pals. |  |
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| Brixtonblue on 06:32 - Apr 24 with 3571 views | Benters2 |
| Brixtonblue on 06:30 - Apr 24 by noggin |
How refreshing. A politician who will make life easier for the average person, not his rich pals. |
Is it only average people who go to Uni? | | | |
| Brixtonblue on 08:09 - Apr 24 with 3502 views | BrixtonBlue |
Say what?!
"Please don’t bother bringing this one up again."
Erm, what did I bring up that I shouldn't bring up again?
Did you mean to post this to Glassers? I'm a bit confused. |  |
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| Brixtonblue on 14:46 - Apr 24 with 3428 views | FrowsyArmLarry |
| Brixtonblue on 06:30 - Apr 24 by noggin |
How refreshing. A politician who will make life easier for the average person, not his rich pals. |
I agree that uni places should be free. I’m just pointing out that Jeremy promised to immediately write off student debt, and then admitted after the election that it wasn’t affordable | | | |
| Brixtonblue on 14:49 - Apr 24 with 3419 views | Herbivore |
| Brixtonblue on 14:46 - Apr 24 by FrowsyArmLarry |
I agree that uni places should be free. I’m just pointing out that Jeremy promised to immediately write off student debt, and then admitted after the election that it wasn’t affordable |
Where in that quote does he say he will immediately write off student debt? That's not what he says. He says he'll cancel tuition fees and look at ways to ease the debt burden on those with existing debt. |  |
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| Brixtonblue on 14:50 - Apr 24 with 3415 views | Superfrans |
| Brixtonblue on 14:46 - Apr 24 by FrowsyArmLarry |
I agree that uni places should be free. I’m just pointing out that Jeremy promised to immediately write off student debt, and then admitted after the election that it wasn’t affordable |
Where in your Jezza words does it say that he would write off student debt?
He says that 2017-18 debts would be written off and no fees charged moving forward. But he doesn't say all debts will be wiped out. Unless I'm missing something. |  |
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| Brixtonblue on 14:55 - Apr 24 with 3404 views | FrowsyArmLarry |
| Brixtonblue on 14:49 - Apr 24 by Herbivore |
Where in that quote does he say he will immediately write off student debt? That's not what he says. He says he'll cancel tuition fees and look at ways to ease the debt burden on those with existing debt. |
He will cancel fees immediately (that’s the most expensive but)
Then he will make sure that historical debt is sorted out because it would be unfair. That implies existing debt will be written off, but probably not fees that have already been paid | | | |
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| Brixtonblue on 15:01 - Apr 24 with 3383 views | Herbivore |
| Brixtonblue on 14:55 - Apr 24 by FrowsyArmLarry |
He will cancel fees immediately (that’s the most expensive but)
Then he will make sure that historical debt is sorted out because it would be unfair. That implies existing debt will be written off, but probably not fees that have already been paid |
Nowhere does he imply that existing debt will be written off. You've posted a quote that you've clearly not read or understood. | |
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| Brixtonblue on 15:04 - Apr 24 with 3376 views | footers |
| Brixtonblue on 15:01 - Apr 24 by Herbivore |
Nowhere does he imply that existing debt will be written off. You've posted a quote that you've clearly not read or understood. |
This.
Here's the quote:
"...those that currently have a massive debt, and I’m looking at ways that we could reduce that, ameliorate that, lengthen the period of paying it off, or some other means of reducing that debt burden."
So, reduction and lengthening the payment period, not writing off. It's in the bloody OP! |  |
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| Brixtonblue on 15:05 - Apr 24 with 3371 views | FrowsyArmLarry |
| Brixtonblue on 15:01 - Apr 24 by Herbivore |
Nowhere does he imply that existing debt will be written off. You've posted a quote that you've clearly not read or understood. |
“And I don’t see why those that had the historical misfortune to be at university during the £9,000 period should be burdened excessively compared to those that went before or those that come after. I will deal with it.” | | | |
| Brixtonblue on 15:07 - Apr 24 with 3365 views | SpruceMoose |
| Brixtonblue on 15:05 - Apr 24 by FrowsyArmLarry |
“And I don’t see why those that had the historical misfortune to be at university during the £9,000 period should be burdened excessively compared to those that went before or those that come after. I will deal with it.” |
Yeah... he's still not saying he wants to write it off. |  |
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| Brixtonblue on 15:08 - Apr 24 with 3363 views | footers |
| Brixtonblue on 15:05 - Apr 24 by FrowsyArmLarry |
“And I don’t see why those that had the historical misfortune to be at university during the £9,000 period should be burdened excessively compared to those that went before or those that come after. I will deal with it.” |
So he's presumably talking about reducing the debt burden from £9k to its previous £3k for the years 2012 onwards, not writing it off completely. | |
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| Brixtonblue on 15:09 - Apr 24 with 3359 views | FrowsyArmLarry |
| Brixtonblue on 15:07 - Apr 24 by SpruceMoose |
Yeah... he's still not saying he wants to write it off. |
That’s the assumption people made. There were news articles about it. People I know at work decided to vote labour on that one issue.... and I don’t recall Jeremy coming out and saying we’d got it wrong BEFORE the election [Post edited 24 Apr 2018 15:10]
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| Brixtonblue on 15:11 - Apr 24 with 3350 views | SpruceMoose |
| Brixtonblue on 15:09 - Apr 24 by FrowsyArmLarry |
That’s the assumption people made. There were news articles about it. People I know at work decided to vote labour on that one issue.... and I don’t recall Jeremy coming out and saying we’d got it wrong BEFORE the election [Post edited 24 Apr 2018 15:10]
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You're moving the goal posts. You posted a quote and then tried to tell us it said something different to what we all read. | |
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| Brixtonblue on 15:11 - Apr 24 with 3350 views | footers |
| Brixtonblue on 15:09 - Apr 24 by FrowsyArmLarry |
That’s the assumption people made. There were news articles about it. People I know at work decided to vote labour on that one issue.... and I don’t recall Jeremy coming out and saying we’d got it wrong BEFORE the election [Post edited 24 Apr 2018 15:10]
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Now you're blaming him for others' misconceptions? Blimey. | |
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| Brixtonblue on 15:11 - Apr 24 with 3343 views | SpruceMoose |
| Brixtonblue on 15:11 - Apr 24 by footers |
Now you're blaming him for others' misconceptions? Blimey. |
Indeed. Who are these fools who voted on one issue that they invented themselves? | |
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| Brixtonblue on 15:12 - Apr 24 with 3339 views | FrowsyArmLarry |
| Brixtonblue on 15:11 - Apr 24 by SpruceMoose |
You're moving the goal posts. You posted a quote and then tried to tell us it said something different to what we all read. |
Not really. | | | |
| Brixtonblue on 15:14 - Apr 24 with 3324 views | SpruceMoose |
Yeah, I'm going to have to go with 'really' on this one. | |
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| Brixtonblue on 15:16 - Apr 24 with 3315 views | FrowsyArmLarry |
| Brixtonblue on 15:11 - Apr 24 by SpruceMoose |
Indeed. Who are these fools who voted on one issue that they invented themselves? |
People I know with kids at uni.
It was widely accepted at the time that labour would write off the debt if they got into power.
If that wasn’t the case why did McDonnell comment that is wasn’t really feasible? | | | |
| Brixtonblue on 15:17 - Apr 24 with 3310 views | SpruceMoose |
| Brixtonblue on 15:16 - Apr 24 by FrowsyArmLarry |
People I know with kids at uni.
It was widely accepted at the time that labour would write off the debt if they got into power.
If that wasn’t the case why did McDonnell comment that is wasn’t really feasible? |
Widely accepted by who? I know plenty of people who never thought that was the case. Maybe they read the quote you pulled, at the time? [Post edited 24 Apr 2018 15:18]
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| Brixtonblue on 15:18 - Apr 24 with 3301 views | Herbivore |
You've managed to spectacularly troll yourself here. Top work. | |
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| Brixtonblue on 15:20 - Apr 24 with 3291 views | monytowbray |
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| Brixtonblue on 15:24 - Apr 24 with 3280 views | BrixtonBlue |
| Brixtonblue on 15:01 - Apr 24 by Herbivore |
Nowhere does he imply that existing debt will be written off. You've posted a quote that you've clearly not read or understood. |
AND he started a thread to attack me for it.
Ooops. | |
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| Brixtonblue on 15:25 - Apr 24 with 3272 views | SpruceMoose |
| Brixtonblue on 15:24 - Apr 24 by BrixtonBlue |
AND he started a thread to attack me for it.
Ooops. |
Somedays I feel this site needs a feature for posters who blunder to delete their threads and pretend it never happened. | |
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