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Agree with their penalty but.... 19:50 - Jun 18 with 8697 viewschristiand

How did we not get one after Kane got wrestled to the ground?
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Agree with their penalty but.... on 19:54 - Jun 18 with 5281 viewsBent_double

Guess the ref/lino didn't see it.

If only they had VAR...

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Agree with their penalty but.... on 19:59 - Jun 18 with 5237 viewsm14_blue

I can only think the VAR couldn't get the relevant pictures in time.

If they looked at it and decided it wasn't a penalty then it's time to roll out the conspiracy theories.

Theirs was unbelievably soft too.
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Agree with their penalty but.... on 19:59 - Jun 18 with 5238 viewsChondzoresk

He did. It was blatant, penalty should have been given. Especially as they had a penalty given for a pretty innocuous arm out.
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Agree with their penalty but.... on 20:02 - Jun 18 with 5217 viewschristiand

Agree with their penalty but.... on 19:59 - Jun 18 by Chondzoresk

He did. It was blatant, penalty should have been given. Especially as they had a penalty given for a pretty innocuous arm out.


Walker should have just headed it away instead of taking liabilities. He was chancing his arm (excuse the pun).

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Agree with their penalty but.... on 20:02 - Jun 18 with 5217 viewsjas0999

Both were clear penalties.
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Agree with their penalty but.... on 20:03 - Jun 18 with 5206 viewsBrixtonBlue

How on earth do you agree with their penalty? Softest I've ever seen in an England game I think.

I bet Bloots will downarrow this.
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Agree with their penalty but.... on 20:12 - Jun 18 with 5170 viewsDanTheMan

Agree with their penalty but.... on 20:03 - Jun 18 by BrixtonBlue

How on earth do you agree with their penalty? Softest I've ever seen in an England game I think.


And another we should have been given if walking into an arm is a penalty now.

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Agree with their penalty but.... on 20:14 - Jun 18 with 5158 viewsStochesStotasBlewe

Agree with their penalty but.... on 20:03 - Jun 18 by BrixtonBlue

How on earth do you agree with their penalty? Softest I've ever seen in an England game I think.


This ref is dog sh#t mate. 2 blatant pens not given our way.

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Agree with their penalty but.... on 20:19 - Jun 18 with 5138 viewsDyland

Agree with their penalty but.... on 20:12 - Jun 18 by DanTheMan

And another we should have been given if walking into an arm is a penalty now.


Walking into an arm = penalty
Wrestling your opponent to the ground = no penalty

Didn't you get the memo?

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Agree with their penalty but.... on 20:44 - Jun 18 with 5076 viewsjas0999

Agree with their penalty but.... on 20:03 - Jun 18 by BrixtonBlue

How on earth do you agree with their penalty? Softest I've ever seen in an England game I think.


... even the pundits thought it was a penalty. Soft yes. Penalty. Yes.
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Agree with their penalty but.... on 21:01 - Jun 18 with 5063 viewschristiand

Agree with their penalty but.... on 20:19 - Jun 18 by Dyland

Walking into an arm = penalty
Wrestling your opponent to the ground = no penalty

Didn't you get the memo?


The ref clearly did, missed two blantant penalties for wrestling Kane to the ground. Walker needs to stop taking libilites and defend the ball properly. Hopefully he’ll learn from tonight.
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Agree with their penalty but.... on 21:05 - Jun 18 with 5053 viewsITFCson

Look closely and you will see Stones shove their player just before Kane is hauled over, maybe this is why VAR didn't give it
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Agree with their penalty but.... on 21:12 - Jun 18 with 5021 viewsRamRob

Agree with their penalty but.... on 21:05 - Jun 18 by ITFCson

Look closely and you will see Stones shove their player just before Kane is hauled over, maybe this is why VAR didn't give it


Both times?

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Agree with their penalty but.... on 21:13 - Jun 18 with 5018 viewsBent_double

Agree with their penalty but.... on 20:44 - Jun 18 by jas0999

... even the pundits thought it was a penalty. Soft yes. Penalty. Yes.


Interesting point made by Rio Ferdinand - Walker was facing the goal, not where the ball was coming from, so was unaware of the player behind him - he's not a CB afterall.

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Agree with their penalty but.... on 21:16 - Jun 18 with 4995 viewschristiand

Agree with their penalty but.... on 21:13 - Jun 18 by Bent_double

Interesting point made by Rio Ferdinand - Walker was facing the goal, not where the ball was coming from, so was unaware of the player behind him - he's not a CB afterall.


In the right position he’d have just headed it away. He was pushing his luck trying to fend the player off. Don’t give the ref the chance to make that decision, particularly him after some of his ludicrous decisions he made.

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Agree with their penalty but.... on 21:46 - Jun 18 with 4944 viewsBrixtonBlue

Agree with their penalty but.... on 20:44 - Jun 18 by jas0999

... even the pundits thought it was a penalty. Soft yes. Penalty. Yes.


Which pundits were you listening to? Linekar, Shearer and co thought it was a shocker, same as me.

Since when has running into someone's arm been a penalty?

I bet Bloots will downarrow this.
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Agree with their penalty but.... on 21:51 - Jun 18 with 4923 viewschristiand

Agree with their penalty but.... on 21:46 - Jun 18 by BrixtonBlue

Which pundits were you listening to? Linekar, Shearer and co thought it was a shocker, same as me.

Since when has running into someone's arm been a penalty?


Rio Ferdinand intimated that with him raising his arm it was asking for the ref to make that decision. Don’t give him that opportunity.

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Agree with their penalty but.... on 21:53 - Jun 18 with 4911 viewsm14_blue

Agree with their penalty but.... on 21:13 - Jun 18 by Bent_double

Interesting point made by Rio Ferdinand - Walker was facing the goal, not where the ball was coming from, so was unaware of the player behind him - he's not a CB afterall.


Yeah, it was an interesting observation.

Not sure it's as a result of playing out of position though, surely Walker has faced loads of similar crosses from the left when playing as a right back?
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Agree with their penalty but.... on 21:55 - Jun 18 with 4907 viewsCurrie10

The second one is a pen to us with Kane.

The first, he is rugby tackled but Stones also pushed their guy in the back quite strongly.

That doesn't seem to have been picked up on in the studio.

Watch the first one back again and spot the Stones push.
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Agree with their penalty but.... on 23:08 - Jun 18 with 4813 viewsBrixtonBlue

Agree with their penalty but.... on 21:51 - Jun 18 by christiand

Rio Ferdinand intimated that with him raising his arm it was asking for the ref to make that decision. Don’t give him that opportunity.


I agree you're asking for trouble. Still doesn't make it a penalty though.

I bet Bloots will downarrow this.
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Agree with their penalty but.... on 00:16 - Jun 19 with 4762 viewsRyorry

Agree with their penalty but.... on 19:59 - Jun 18 by m14_blue

I can only think the VAR couldn't get the relevant pictures in time.

If they looked at it and decided it wasn't a penalty then it's time to roll out the conspiracy theories.

Theirs was unbelievably soft too.


There was a guy in the "truck" for the ITV highlights show saying that they only have 12-24 seconds to review all the pics from about 25 different camera angles & come to a decision. In his view, there should be 50 seconds allowed for this, on the basis that if you're going to have VAR, it might as well actually be given enough time to get it right, or there's no point.

It wasn't just the WWW tho, there was the diving (ball hit someone at about 10mph on his side, whereupon he went down as tho sprayed by machine gun fire! And the timewasting. They're the modern, international equivalent of Bolton in the PO semis!

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Agree with their penalty but.... on 06:36 - Jun 19 with 4653 viewschristiand

Agree with their penalty but.... on 23:08 - Jun 18 by BrixtonBlue

I agree you're asking for trouble. Still doesn't make it a penalty though.


Then don't raise your arms and defend the ball properly then this wouldn't be up for debate.

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Agree with their penalty but.... on 06:39 - Jun 19 with 4650 viewsBrixtonBlue

Agree with their penalty but.... on 06:36 - Jun 19 by christiand

Then don't raise your arms and defend the ball properly then this wouldn't be up for debate.


You're just repeating yourself but in a slightly different way, so I'll repeat that yes I agree... but it still doesn't make it a penalty.

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Agree with their penalty but.... on 06:45 - Jun 19 with 4639 viewschristiand

Agree with their penalty but.... on 06:39 - Jun 19 by BrixtonBlue

You're just repeating yourself but in a slightly different way, so I'll repeat that yes I agree... but it still doesn't make it a penalty.


Yes, I see that you don't agree with the decision, but defend properly by heading the ball clear and then its not up for discussion it's that simple.

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Agree with their penalty but.... on 07:05 - Jun 19 with 4618 viewsBrixtonBlue

Agree with their penalty but.... on 06:45 - Jun 19 by christiand

Yes, I see that you don't agree with the decision, but defend properly by heading the ball clear and then its not up for discussion it's that simple.


Again you're repeating yourself. Again I agree!

Last time I looked at the laws of the game 'not defending properly' wasn't an offence. You seem at odds with most of the pundits and most on here in thinking that was a penalty.

I find it odd that an England supporter would be so vehement about it being a pen. Do you have something against Kyle Walker? Genuine question. Not trying to start a row just trying to understand your thinking.

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