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Was the referee right to give a penalty against Kyle Walker? 21:18 - Jun 19 with 5000 viewsKeaneish

Was the referee right to give a penalty against Kyle Walker?


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Was the referee right to give a penalty against Kyle Walker? on 21:23 - Jun 19 with 4336 viewsNthsuffolkblue

It was one of those 50-50 calls in my opinion.

Having given it, if he had reviewed he would have stuck with the decision - Walker was silly to put his arm across how he did and it ended up in the opponent's face.

Had the ref not awarded it and VAR been checked he would not have changed his mind either. The contact was minimal and the player went down very easily.

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Was the referee right to give a penalty against Kyle Walker? on 22:09 - Jun 19 with 4271 viewsCurrie10

Absolutely stone wall he's looking the wrong bloody way for a start.
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Was the referee right to give a penalty against Kyle Walker? on 22:17 - Jun 19 with 4263 viewsBrixtonBlue

Was the referee right to give a penalty against Kyle Walker? on 22:09 - Jun 19 by Currie10

Absolutely stone wall he's looking the wrong bloody way for a start.


I understand people who are of the opinion that it might've been a pen, but appreciate it's not clear-cut (sensible people like Christiand), but to call it "stone wall" is just silly. Even Tunisians wouldn't call it stone wall.

I bet Bloots will downarrow this.
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Was the referee right to give a penalty against Kyle Walker? on 09:51 - Jun 20 with 4098 viewsCrawfordsboot

Was the referee right to give a penalty against Kyle Walker? on 21:23 - Jun 19 by Nthsuffolkblue

It was one of those 50-50 calls in my opinion.

Having given it, if he had reviewed he would have stuck with the decision - Walker was silly to put his arm across how he did and it ended up in the opponent's face.

Had the ref not awarded it and VAR been checked he would not have changed his mind either. The contact was minimal and the player went down very easily.


Nah - 48.7/51.3 in my opinion
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Was the referee right to give a penalty against Kyle Walker? on 09:55 - Jun 20 with 4090 viewsitfcjoe

That 50% of people think that was a penalty is mental

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Was the referee right to give a penalty against Kyle Walker? on 10:05 - Jun 20 with 4074 viewsm14_blue

Was the referee right to give a penalty against Kyle Walker? on 22:09 - Jun 19 by Currie10

Absolutely stone wall he's looking the wrong bloody way for a start.


Is looking the wrong way a penalty too now?

Bad defending - yes. Possibly a penalty - yes.

Stone wall? Don't be so ridiculous
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Was the referee right to give a penalty against Kyle Walker? on 10:14 - Jun 20 with 4059 viewsKeno

Was the referee right to give a penalty against Kyle Walker? on 09:51 - Jun 20 by Crawfordsboot

Nah - 48.7/51.3 in my opinion
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thats such a narrow margin

No one in their right mind would think thats a wide margin for any sensible meaningful decision to based on

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Was the referee right to give a penalty against Kyle Walker? on 10:15 - Jun 20 with 4060 viewsTIB

Walker could feel the guy was behind him, he put his arm up to guard the area around him and then throws his arm back slightly and catches the guy in the face as it looked like the player was moving passed to attack the ball. The ref was looking right at them...it looks like Walker's arm movement has stopped the player from getting to the ball. Soft but against teams like Tunisia, they'll take every opportunity they can.

Still hacked off about the inconsistency regarding the Kane and McGuire penalty claims.

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Was the referee right to give a penalty against Kyle Walker? on 10:17 - Jun 20 with 4050 viewsCurrie10

Was the referee right to give a penalty against Kyle Walker? on 10:05 - Jun 20 by m14_blue

Is looking the wrong way a penalty too now?

Bad defending - yes. Possibly a penalty - yes.

Stone wall? Don't be so ridiculous


The fact he's looking the wrong bloody way on a cross is terrifying enough when we play better opposition.

Jesus wept.

Yes, it is a clear cut pen. No other option. Very thick from Walker.
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Was the referee right to give a penalty against Kyle Walker? on 10:19 - Jun 20 with 4045 viewstextbackup

I will never be able to even remotely accept an opinion that says that was a pen.
if that cheating pr1ck hadn't fell to the floor like he'd been shot it wouldn't have been given/considered

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Was the referee right to give a penalty against Kyle Walker? on 10:21 - Jun 20 with 4041 viewsitfcjoe

Was the referee right to give a penalty against Kyle Walker? on 10:19 - Jun 20 by textbackup

I will never be able to even remotely accept an opinion that says that was a pen.
if that cheating pr1ck hadn't fell to the floor like he'd been shot it wouldn't have been given/considered


And people try to make excuses as to why ref right to give it - he wasn't. It wasn't a foul.

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Was the referee right to give a penalty against Kyle Walker? on 10:24 - Jun 20 with 4028 viewsm14_blue

Was the referee right to give a penalty against Kyle Walker? on 10:17 - Jun 20 by Currie10

The fact he's looking the wrong bloody way on a cross is terrifying enough when we play better opposition.

Jesus wept.

Yes, it is a clear cut pen. No other option. Very thick from Walker.


Well yes it's worrying.

Not remotely relevant in a discussion about whether it was a pen though.
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Was the referee right to give a penalty against Kyle Walker? on 10:25 - Jun 20 with 4026 viewstextbackup

Was the referee right to give a penalty against Kyle Walker? on 10:21 - Jun 20 by itfcjoe

And people try to make excuses as to why ref right to give it - he wasn't. It wasn't a foul.


the Tunisia player walked into the back of KW, and fell backwards, that's the most unnatural reaction there could have been to that. if anything KW should have fell forwards and we get a freekick (which would have been harsh on the attacker - fully grown men falling over at the smallest of touches, I fcking kills me to see)

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Was the referee right to give a penalty against Kyle Walker? on 10:34 - Jun 20 with 4010 viewssolemio

Far more relevant is why the 2 stone cold penalty could on Kane weren't given.
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Was the referee right to give a penalty against Kyle Walker? on 10:41 - Jun 20 with 3987 viewstextbackup

Was the referee right to give a penalty against Kyle Walker? on 10:17 - Jun 20 by Currie10

The fact he's looking the wrong bloody way on a cross is terrifying enough when we play better opposition.

Jesus wept.

Yes, it is a clear cut pen. No other option. Very thick from Walker.


clear fcking cut?! what the fck is wrong with you

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Was the referee right to give a penalty against Kyle Walker? on 10:47 - Jun 20 with 3968 viewschristiand

Was the referee right to give a penalty against Kyle Walker? on 10:41 - Jun 20 by textbackup

clear fcking cut?! what the fck is wrong with you


Exhausted this with Brixton Blue yesterday, but when you raise your arms like Walker did, he's asking for the referee to make a decision. I just don't understand why Walker just didn't contest the header? It would have to be a terrific header to beat Pickford from that distance.

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Was the referee right to give a penalty against Kyle Walker? on 10:51 - Jun 20 with 3954 viewsSouperJim

Literal interpretation of the law, yes it's a pen. However, common sense should prevail to prevent 10 penalties per game in similar circumstances. The contact is accidental and caused as much by the attacker as the defender. The attacker isn't getting to the ball anyway and it's not an obvious goal scoring opportunity.

Lazy defending, but that doesn't justify it being a penalty.

Also, without wanting to be a raving conspiracy theorist, VAR appears to be biased towards the underdog if the Tunisia-England and Germany-Mexico games are anything to go by. When you also consider the draw Russia have had...

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Was the referee right to give a penalty against Kyle Walker? on 10:51 - Jun 20 with 3954 viewsm14_blue

Was the referee right to give a penalty against Kyle Walker? on 10:47 - Jun 20 by christiand

Exhausted this with Brixton Blue yesterday, but when you raise your arms like Walker did, he's asking for the referee to make a decision. I just don't understand why Walker just didn't contest the header? It would have to be a terrific header to beat Pickford from that distance.


Because the ball was nowhere near him and he got a shout to leave it.

It wasn't good defending though.

No way in a million years the Tunisian player was getting on the end of that cross which was why he took a gamble at trying to con the ref instead - it worked.
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Was the referee right to give a penalty against Kyle Walker? on 10:59 - Jun 20 with 3942 viewschristiand

Was the referee right to give a penalty against Kyle Walker? on 10:51 - Jun 20 by m14_blue

Because the ball was nowhere near him and he got a shout to leave it.

It wasn't good defending though.

No way in a million years the Tunisian player was getting on the end of that cross which was why he took a gamble at trying to con the ref instead - it worked.


That's what made it look even worse. Poor positioning from Walker. If he was facing the ball he would have been able to manage that situation so much better. The fact he wasn't looking at the ball and raises his arm towards the striker makes up the referee's mind.

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Was the referee right to give a penalty against Kyle Walker? on 15:01 - Jun 20 with 3858 viewsitfcjoe

Was the referee right to give a penalty against Kyle Walker? on 10:17 - Jun 20 by Currie10

The fact he's looking the wrong bloody way on a cross is terrifying enough when we play better opposition.

Jesus wept.

Yes, it is a clear cut pen. No other option. Very thick from Walker.


No other option?! Give over.

The bloke has no intent or chance on getting the ball, Walker just positions his body in the way to make srure.

All this talk of allowing the ref to make a decision etc is just total and utter bollox. It's not a foul, if a player is shielding a ball out for a goal kick and you run into the back of them is it a foul? Of course not.

He doesn't impede his attempt to get the ball - if you think that is a clear cut penalty I'm not sure football is the sport for you.

He's run into the back of someone, dived, play acted and feigned injury and the ref has made a decision when none was required - he was a terrible ref and wouldn't surprise me if that is the end of his tournament coupled with the decisions not to award Kane at least one penalty when looking straight at it.

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Was the referee right to give a penalty against Kyle Walker? on 22:26 - Jun 20 with 3744 viewsKeaneish

Was the referee right to give a penalty against Kyle Walker? on 15:01 - Jun 20 by itfcjoe

No other option?! Give over.

The bloke has no intent or chance on getting the ball, Walker just positions his body in the way to make srure.

All this talk of allowing the ref to make a decision etc is just total and utter bollox. It's not a foul, if a player is shielding a ball out for a goal kick and you run into the back of them is it a foul? Of course not.

He doesn't impede his attempt to get the ball - if you think that is a clear cut penalty I'm not sure football is the sport for you.

He's run into the back of someone, dived, play acted and feigned injury and the ref has made a decision when none was required - he was a terrible ref and wouldn't surprise me if that is the end of his tournament coupled with the decisions not to award Kane at least one penalty when looking straight at it.


Yeah agreed. Never a pen for me. I was chatting to Leon McKenzie today in the gym as I'd figured I'd get a ex-pro's take on it and he laughed it off as a nonsense decision too. Ball came over, walkers position isn't great but he feels the man to hold him off or roll him to shield the ball to allow it to drift pass. Holding your arm up or yiur elbow at shoukder height is what anyone any where in the pitch does to hold off an opponent, it makes you stronger and more of a big physical presence to manouvere.

Can't believe the split in here though. Thought it would be far more clear cut than this.

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Was the referee right to give a penalty against Kyle Walker? on 06:29 - Jun 21 with 3682 viewschristiand

Was the referee right to give a penalty against Kyle Walker? on 22:26 - Jun 20 by Keaneish

Yeah agreed. Never a pen for me. I was chatting to Leon McKenzie today in the gym as I'd figured I'd get a ex-pro's take on it and he laughed it off as a nonsense decision too. Ball came over, walkers position isn't great but he feels the man to hold him off or roll him to shield the ball to allow it to drift pass. Holding your arm up or yiur elbow at shoukder height is what anyone any where in the pitch does to hold off an opponent, it makes you stronger and more of a big physical presence to manouvere.

Can't believe the split in here though. Thought it would be far more clear cut than this.


That shows you that it's not as clear cut as some previously thought. I appreciate neither are English, but both Andy Gray and Karl Heinz Reidle on Bien Sport thought it was a penalty. It has certainly encouraged plenty of debate and a range of reactions.
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Was the referee right to give a penalty against Kyle Walker? on 06:43 - Jun 21 with 3666 viewsjjblue84

I thought the refs were supposed to discourage diving??
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Was the referee right to give a penalty against Kyle Walker? on 08:01 - Jun 21 with 3619 viewsKeaneish

Was the referee right to give a penalty against Kyle Walker? on 06:29 - Jun 21 by christiand

That shows you that it's not as clear cut as some previously thought. I appreciate neither are English, but both Andy Gray and Karl Heinz Reidle on Bien Sport thought it was a penalty. It has certainly encouraged plenty of debate and a range of reactions.
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Interesting they're both strikers whereas Lineker and Shearer thought it was soft. I'd ignore anything Andy Gray says in truth, that man lost credibility a long, long time ago.

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Was the referee right to give a penalty against Kyle Walker? on 08:13 - Jun 21 with 3610 viewsitfcinwales

you see them given and you dont, personally i think it was, soft but he has thrown his arms.

The reason people are up in arms about it is that the fact that if hes given that thn how the hell did we not get two?
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