Fuel prices up? 09:17 - Jul 4 with 3998 views | No9 | Are the government really going to increase duty on fuel & booze- after all they said ? https://news.sky.com/story/fuel-and-alcohol-duty-freeze-to-be-lifted-to-help-fun Perhaps if they had not been so generous with tax cuts for corporations and the wealthy + stopped generous corporate welfare this would not be necessary Punish the less than well off is back on the agenda
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Fuel prices up? on 09:24 - Jul 4 with 2319 views | Guthrum | Again symptomatic of May's weak position. Having to keep rebellious departmental heads (and US Presidents who insist their allies shoulder more of the military cost burden) happy with bribes while not upsetting the Chancellor. At least this time it's not further cuts to services for the vulnerable. | |
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Fuel prices up? on 09:26 - Jul 4 with 2303 views | Bluefish | You do understand that lower corporation tax = more jobs don't you? Surely that is helping the poor? | |
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Fuel prices up? on 09:29 - Jul 4 with 2300 views | No9 |
Fuel prices up? on 09:24 - Jul 4 by Guthrum | Again symptomatic of May's weak position. Having to keep rebellious departmental heads (and US Presidents who insist their allies shoulder more of the military cost burden) happy with bribes while not upsetting the Chancellor. At least this time it's not further cuts to services for the vulnerable. |
It isn't just military though is it Guthram? It's all government departments who have not got enough cash in due to tax cuts This morning there are claims many schools including tory flag ship academies have very serious building defects the government won't find money for given that & cuts to the LA funding we are paying a very heavy price for tax cuts | | | |
Fuel prices up? on 09:31 - Jul 4 with 2293 views | DanTheMan | Now I might be wrong here but I seem to recall a certain bus based promise that was meant to pay for this. | |
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Fuel prices up? on 09:32 - Jul 4 with 2282 views | No9 |
Fuel prices up? on 09:31 - Jul 4 by DanTheMan | Now I might be wrong here but I seem to recall a certain bus based promise that was meant to pay for this. |
Originallt yes BUT, they discovered that farmers & wealthy land owners were first in the queue | | | |
Fuel prices up? on 09:33 - Jul 4 with 2282 views | Guthrum |
Fuel prices up? on 09:26 - Jul 4 by Bluefish | You do understand that lower corporation tax = more jobs don't you? Surely that is helping the poor? |
Only if the lower taxes constituted bribes to entice foreign-owned manufacturers to come to the UK (with its high cost-base) at all. For others, such as Starbucks and Amazon, are they going to abandon such a sizeable and generally well-off marketplace? And if they did, would others not fill the hole in the marketplace? | |
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Fuel prices up? on 09:35 - Jul 4 with 2278 views | Guthrum |
Fuel prices up? on 09:29 - Jul 4 by No9 | It isn't just military though is it Guthram? It's all government departments who have not got enough cash in due to tax cuts This morning there are claims many schools including tory flag ship academies have very serious building defects the government won't find money for given that & cuts to the LA funding we are paying a very heavy price for tax cuts |
I meant military as one among several, e.g. the NHS. It's a matter of the supposed "Brexit bonus" being spent several times over already. | |
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Fuel prices up? on 10:48 - Jul 4 with 2215 views | No9 |
Fuel prices up? on 09:26 - Jul 4 by Bluefish | You do understand that lower corporation tax = more jobs don't you? Surely that is helping the poor? |
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Fuel prices up? on 10:49 - Jul 4 with 2215 views | No9 |
Fuel prices up? on 09:35 - Jul 4 by Guthrum | I meant military as one among several, e.g. the NHS. It's a matter of the supposed "Brexit bonus" being spent several times over already. |
Some of the official forecasts of deficit are scary & the unofficial ones horrendous But you have to look for them there isn't much that the media present | | | |
Fuel prices up? on 11:10 - Jul 4 with 2196 views | GeoffSentence |
Fuel prices up? on 09:33 - Jul 4 by Guthrum | Only if the lower taxes constituted bribes to entice foreign-owned manufacturers to come to the UK (with its high cost-base) at all. For others, such as Starbucks and Amazon, are they going to abandon such a sizeable and generally well-off marketplace? And if they did, would others not fill the hole in the marketplace? |
Certainly for starbucks and the other big coffee houses it would be better if they were replaced by independent local outlets. It's only the big chains that have tax avoidance options. | |
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Fuel prices up? on 11:12 - Jul 4 with 2190 views | Bluefish |
Fuel prices up? on 10:48 - Jul 4 by No9 | Please explain & show proof please |
If you can't add the 2 and 2 together to work that out then it us pointless. You are obviously unable to think beyond the cult | |
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Fuel prices up? (n/t) on 11:15 - Jul 4 with 2184 views | No9 |
Fuel prices up? on 11:12 - Jul 4 by Bluefish | If you can't add the 2 and 2 together to work that out then it us pointless. You are obviously unable to think beyond the cult |
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Fuel prices up? on 11:16 - Jul 4 with 2179 views | No9 |
Fuel prices up? on 11:12 - Jul 4 by Bluefish | If you can't add the 2 and 2 together to work that out then it us pointless. You are obviously unable to think beyond the cult |
I take it that's a No then? | | | |
Fuel prices up? on 11:20 - Jul 4 with 2171 views | GeoffSentence |
Fuel prices up? on 11:12 - Jul 4 by Bluefish | If you can't add the 2 and 2 together to work that out then it us pointless. You are obviously unable to think beyond the cult |
Poor show Truce, the old 'it's obvious argument'. If you believe it, be prepared to tell us why | |
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Fuel prices up? on 11:21 - Jul 4 with 2166 views | No9 |
Fuel prices up? on 11:20 - Jul 4 by GeoffSentence | Poor show Truce, the old 'it's obvious argument'. If you believe it, be prepared to tell us why |
It isn't true, quite the reverse | | | |
Fuel prices up? on 11:31 - Jul 4 with 2148 views | Bluefish |
Fuel prices up? on 11:20 - Jul 4 by GeoffSentence | Poor show Truce, the old 'it's obvious argument'. If you believe it, be prepared to tell us why |
Corp tax down, unemployment down. What is there to argue? | |
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Fuel prices up? on 11:34 - Jul 4 with 2138 views | BloomBlue |
Fuel prices up? on 09:33 - Jul 4 by Guthrum | Only if the lower taxes constituted bribes to entice foreign-owned manufacturers to come to the UK (with its high cost-base) at all. For others, such as Starbucks and Amazon, are they going to abandon such a sizeable and generally well-off marketplace? And if they did, would others not fill the hole in the marketplace? |
So why are people making such a fuss about companies leaving the UK because of Brexit, as you point out it won't make any difference because other companies will fill the void | | | |
Fuel prices up? on 11:40 - Jul 4 with 2127 views | Bluefish |
Fuel prices up? on 11:34 - Jul 4 by BloomBlue | So why are people making such a fuss about companies leaving the UK because of Brexit, as you point out it won't make any difference because other companies will fill the void |
Retailer might still be there but supply chain shrinks and prices go up. | |
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Fuel prices up? on 11:42 - Jul 4 with 2122 views | BloomBlue |
Fuel prices up? on 11:40 - Jul 4 by Bluefish | Retailer might still be there but supply chain shrinks and prices go up. |
But increasing corporation tax will also increase prices | | | |
Fuel prices up? on 11:45 - Jul 4 with 2115 views | Bluefish |
Fuel prices up? on 11:42 - Jul 4 by BloomBlue | But increasing corporation tax will also increase prices |
I want it to be low not high. High corporation tax is bad, we want people in work. Taxing the hell out of businesses and the rich to pay for for those out of work will only last a short time before they leave the country. We need people in work | |
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Fuel prices up? on 11:47 - Jul 4 with 2111 views | Guthrum |
Fuel prices up? on 11:34 - Jul 4 by BloomBlue | So why are people making such a fuss about companies leaving the UK because of Brexit, as you point out it won't make any difference because other companies will fill the void |
The businesses who are threatening to leave are not selling to the UK market, but are, instead, using it as a gateway to the EU. Or are those with heavily EU-dependent supply chains, which are likely to become non-viable even in a favourable tax environment. Different issue. | |
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Fuel prices up? on 11:53 - Jul 4 with 2106 views | Guthrum |
Fuel prices up? on 11:45 - Jul 4 by Bluefish | I want it to be low not high. High corporation tax is bad, we want people in work. Taxing the hell out of businesses and the rich to pay for for those out of work will only last a short time before they leave the country. We need people in work |
I would rather it was reasonable and equitable, so that small businesses are able to compete on a level playing field. Not looking for punitive taxation, but it has gone too far the other way. We're suffering from the old problem of everybody demanding a high level of services but nobody wanting to pay for them. The private sector, hampered by poor franchise agreements and the necessity of turning a profit, has all too frequently proven unable to deliver cost-effective solutions while maintaining good service levels. With much job-cutting as a result. | |
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Fuel prices up? on 11:53 - Jul 4 with 2104 views | No9 |
Fuel prices up? on 11:45 - Jul 4 by Bluefish | I want it to be low not high. High corporation tax is bad, we want people in work. Taxing the hell out of businesses and the rich to pay for for those out of work will only last a short time before they leave the country. We need people in work |
If high corp tax is bad why are there so many companies in countries where tax is higher than the Uk doing so well? If if low taxation increases high employment why are there so many self employed and people on zero hr contracts? & why do the ROSCO's who make £Bns in profits employ so few people ? Your arggument is flawed= you should have stuck with don't know | | | |
Fuel prices up? on 11:55 - Jul 4 with 2101 views | No9 |
Fuel prices up? on 11:34 - Jul 4 by BloomBlue | So why are people making such a fuss about companies leaving the UK because of Brexit, as you point out it won't make any difference because other companies will fill the void |
companies will leave because they don't want to lose large valuable market | | | |
Fuel prices up? on 12:07 - Jul 4 with 2082 views | Bluefish |
Fuel prices up? on 11:53 - Jul 4 by No9 | If high corp tax is bad why are there so many companies in countries where tax is higher than the Uk doing so well? If if low taxation increases high employment why are there so many self employed and people on zero hr contracts? & why do the ROSCO's who make £Bns in profits employ so few people ? Your arggument is flawed= you should have stuck with don't know |
People choose to be self employed or zero hours to give them flexibility. People also like self employed to dodge income tax but that is another matter. How long until you talk about a made up corbyn utopia or Venezuela? | |
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