| Level of quality question 21:02 - Aug 8 with 2179 views | Monkey_Blue |
Do we think we have more or less quality in the squad this season? My worry is we lack both quality and also goal threat. [Post edited 8 Aug 2018 21:03]
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| Level of quality question on 21:04 - Aug 8 with 2150 views | wkj |
Depends on how you look at it
Player by player, that is debatable, although Gwion Edwards looks like a coup
To fit Hurst's system - You would think we are now much better quality than before
To fit Mickma's system - Probably less quality
Time will tell |  |
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| Level of quality question on 21:10 - Aug 8 with 2125 views | Guthrum |
Yes there is plenty of quality. Just depends what effect the step up in divisions has, if any, for the more inexperienced players. |  |
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| Level of quality question on 21:12 - Aug 8 with 2115 views | OsborneOneNil |
More, 100%. Especially taking the injured lads out of the equation from last year. This new squad can pass the ball. |  | | |
| Level of quality question on 22:32 - Aug 8 with 2007 views | bournemouthblue |
| Level of quality question on 21:12 - Aug 8 by OsborneOneNil |
More, 100%. Especially taking the injured lads out of the equation from last year. This new squad can pass the ball. |
And will play positively and probably work harder
We actually have a central midfielder in Nolan capable of chipping in with the odd goal? |  |
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| Level of quality question on 23:00 - Aug 8 with 1948 views | Monkey_Blue |
| Level of quality question on 21:10 - Aug 8 by Guthrum |
Yes there is plenty of quality. Just depends what effect the step up in divisions has, if any, for the more inexperienced players. |
How given you question if they can step up do you claim more quality? We don’t know if they can play with “quality” at this level | | | |
| Level of quality question on 23:02 - Aug 8 with 1938 views | Monkey_Blue |
| Level of quality question on 21:12 - Aug 8 by OsborneOneNil |
More, 100%. Especially taking the injured lads out of the equation from last year. This new squad can pass the ball. |
Any team can play to feet.... it’s whether they are good enough to keep it or be effective with it. We can play every pass on the ground and create zero | | | |
| Level of quality question on 23:03 - Aug 8 with 1935 views | Monkey_Blue |
| Level of quality question on 22:32 - Aug 8 by bournemouthblue |
And will play positively and probably work harder
We actually have a central midfielder in Nolan capable of chipping in with the odd goal? |
Capable of chipping in at this level? | | | |
| Level of quality question on 23:05 - Aug 8 with 1921 views | wkj |
| Level of quality question on 23:00 - Aug 8 by Monkey_Blue |
How given you question if they can step up do you claim more quality? We don’t know if they can play with “quality” at this level |
I personally think there is very little quality difference in some teams in League One and the Championship to be honest. I think a good 8 or 9 teams could survive in this league in their current state, and arguable 8 or 9 teams in the Championship who would struggle to get back up.
I feel Hurst is building a squard, with sellable assets- as stated earlier PJ, RK, MM all let a lot of players go for nothing, and that had an impact on financial sustainability- which could be why Evans went through a time where it felt like we were getting peanuts from revenue coming in.
The squad we have now would perform miracles to get in the playoffs, but we can hold our own, and I think each year a few players will now be sold to fund the way for new, possibly better ones. | |
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| Level of quality question on 23:07 - Aug 8 with 1916 views | Keaneish |
I saw more all round quality on that pitch on Saturday than I have in years at PR. Granted we’ve had bright sparks like Fraser and Lawrence but as players in a system or a unit, plenty more encouraging natural players playing their own game. How many cross field balls did you ever see Knudsen hit under MM? Proves he has a very sweet left foot. One example of many things where players will flourish under Hurst.
When Tommy Oar left, his agent cited words along a similar line that he didn’t want to or didn’t enjoy the way he was being asked to play. I bet Knudsen enjoyed being allowed to hit an 80 yard pin point cross field ball Saturday. Quality in transfers in and quality in players being allowed to play. |  |
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| Level of quality question on 23:07 - Aug 8 with 1917 views | Dubtractor |
One of the fundamental issues with our team over the last couple of seasons has been the lack of quality/technical skills.
All very workmanlike, apart from a few injury cases.
Without a doubt we are making a bit of a gamble, but I think that it is based on some players with more flair than we had previously. |  |
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| Level of quality question on 23:12 - Aug 8 with 1892 views | wkj |
| Level of quality question on 23:07 - Aug 8 by Dubtractor |
One of the fundamental issues with our team over the last couple of seasons has been the lack of quality/technical skills.
All very workmanlike, apart from a few injury cases.
Without a doubt we are making a bit of a gamble, but I think that it is based on some players with more flair than we had previously. |
Exactly, I think Gwion Edwards is a classic example, he isn't affraid to try a little magic - though over all I feel his passing and crossing needs a bit of finess | |
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| Level of quality question on 00:46 - Aug 9 with 1760 views | Guthrum |
| Level of quality question on 23:00 - Aug 8 by Monkey_Blue |
How given you question if they can step up do you claim more quality? We don’t know if they can play with “quality” at this level |
The new recruits are among the best in League One/Two, many of whom have been rapidly climbing the divisions. Their raw quality is at a high level, it's only a question as to whether they can apply that in the Championship.
In comparison with other recent ITFC teams, they are not so much of greater or lesser quality, as a different type. Less experienced, perhaps not so strong, but young, fast and agile. | |
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| Level of quality question on 00:51 - Aug 9 with 1753 views | jeera |
| Level of quality question on 00:46 - Aug 9 by Guthrum |
The new recruits are among the best in League One/Two, many of whom have been rapidly climbing the divisions. Their raw quality is at a high level, it's only a question as to whether they can apply that in the Championship.
In comparison with other recent ITFC teams, they are not so much of greater or lesser quality, as a different type. Less experienced, perhaps not so strong, but young, fast and agile. |
I can only see this squad growing in quality and confidence as time goes on, can't you?
Admittedly, we're all a tad nervous about the months coming up but if we survive them, (yes I do know), then you can see them fulfilling potential in the future.
The right age groups/mix. Hopefully the right manager.
I see another Burley emerging in time, I really do.*
*We're gonna get relegated now aren't we. |  |
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| Level of quality question on 00:58 - Aug 9 with 1747 views | Guthrum |
| Level of quality question on 23:03 - Aug 8 by Monkey_Blue |
Capable of chipping in at this level? |
You make it sound like there's some vast gulf in standard between the lower two divisions of the League and the Championship (let alone the Prem). There really isn't. Players (especially young and developing ones) come up all the time and cope alright. There's a massive degree of overlap.
We're not talking blokes who've never risen higher in a decade or more of playing. These are talented young men just coming into their footballing prime. They have skill, they have energy, several have experience of competing for promotion. | |
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| Level of quality question on 01:07 - Aug 9 with 1743 views | Guthrum |
| Level of quality question on 00:51 - Aug 9 by jeera |
I can only see this squad growing in quality and confidence as time goes on, can't you?
Admittedly, we're all a tad nervous about the months coming up but if we survive them, (yes I do know), then you can see them fulfilling potential in the future.
The right age groups/mix. Hopefully the right manager.
I see another Burley emerging in time, I really do.*
*We're gonna get relegated now aren't we. |
Relegation is often as much a matter of morale as lack of ability. Teams go down with a whimper, or bottle crucial games. If Hurst is a good motivator, combined with youthful optimism from our players, then we ought to be safe.
Tho, in addition, it might take time for us to fully develop as a squad.
As we so often say, see where we are at Christmas. | |
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| Level of quality question on 08:31 - Aug 9 with 1461 views | tractorshark |
Probably less proven quality but the potential to be better in the future.
Edwards is a good example. When I watched him at Crawley, his end product was inconsistent and he drifted in games.
Having watched him last Sat and in pre-season, he’s developed hugely.
Hopefully, this isn’t him peaking.
At least we have young legs in the team now and some fresh thinking.
Last season was the first time since the Duncan days, that I thought the club had gone stale.
Most blamed McCarthy for that but it wasn’t just him. |  | | |
| Level of quality question on 08:38 - Aug 9 with 1438 views | dirtyboy |
Incredibly difficult to say at the moment, I agree on Edwards, looks great, but so did Ward on his first game, let's just see how things pan out.
My only real worry is that whilst we've got a few very good lower league players, they are now stepping up against better players, that will be difficult and take time....what will also take a bit of time is Hurst is stepping up in level and that too may take time. Combine those two points and there's an air of uncertainty on how things will go.
However, good attitudes and good personnel who work hard will take you a decent way in this league, let's hope he's at least got those spot on. |  | | |
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